MarkyJoe1990 Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Eh. More work, more time. I feel like people might not connect each part of the game as one, as well. Also, there should be a limit of 5 chapters or something... I could totally see people making a reskin of Lyn's mode and calling it a ragefest hack. XD You have to have custom events in your submission or else it's disqualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladehero22 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I have to agree with Blazer, here. I think there should be a limit to how many chapters there are. Make it like... 2 or 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 ...You're right. Edit some of the events to be different and we'll call it a surgery instead of a reskin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 ...You're right. Edit some of the events to be different and we'll call it a surgery instead of a reskin Hm... new name for a hack type. Uh... yeah, if anyone tries to exploit loopholes like that, I'll probably disqualify them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Would more chapters actually help the quality? If people can't get one chapter right, I'd hate to see them trash two or three for you to rummage through. Edited June 29, 2012 by Celice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Uh... yeah, if anyone tries to exploit loopholes like that, I'll probably disqualify them. I don't mean to be a nitpicker but maybe just double-check your rules so somebody doesn't make a hack that gets disqualified without meaning to, since that always sucks XP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) Would more chapters actually help the quality? If people can't get one chapter right, I'd hate to see them trash two or three for you to rummage through. If, for example, it takes two chapters for me to get to their only good one, it will hurt their overall placement in the contest. That said, almost every Ragefest has at least one submission that is an abomination. However, I think this will get us more good submissions as well as bad ones. I don't mean to be a nitpicker but maybe just double-check your rules so somebody doesn't make a hack that gets disqualified without meaning to, since that always sucks XP Actually, while we're at it, I've been writing up the rules for Ragefest 4. Changes will be made based on what ideas I want to use (Such as multi-chapter hacks) [spoiler=Rules and Awards]Rules: 1. Custom Events Required. 2. Excessive luck is prohibited. 3. Excessive cryptic solutions are prohibited. 4. Arenas are prohibited. 5. Fog of War vision distance of 2 spaces or less is prohibited. 6. Instances of Fog of War must have an obtainable torch or thief within 3 turns of the FOW's start. 7. Chapter must be playtested and confirmed beatable with at most three save states. Awards: Douchebag Award Jester Award Strategist Award Map Maker Award Writer Award Douchebag Award Given to the submission that extracted the largest amount of negative emotional reactions from me. Jester Award Given to the submission that is the most hilarious in it's own merits (Not just from my emotional reactions). Strategist Award Given to the submission with the best design in terms of challenge, pacing, and flow. Map Maker Award Given to the submission with the most aesthetically well designed map. Writer Award Given to the submission with the most interesting story. Nitpick and tear apart as you see fit. Edited June 30, 2012 by MarkyJoe1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 BIG NEWS UPDATE The person I have selected to record my Ragefest submission has recorded 6 parts and will be uploading them soon. I am now nervous as shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 bahahahaha we were getting regaled with tales of this submission in chat (my recording is finished just fyi) this will be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Alright I can't wait to see the SUPER-SPECIAL-WAY-BETTER-THAN-ALL-THE-OTHER--SHITTY-ASS-SUBMISSIONS submission of super secret awesomeness that will blow all minds with its awesomeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47948201 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hey um just to clarify, "thief" in the FOW rules means any unit with unusual vision distance, right? I'm planning on making Nomads used as scouts instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hey um just to clarify, "thief" in the FOW rules means any unit with unusual vision distance, right? I'm planning on making Nomads used as scouts instead. That's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hey um just to clarify, "thief" in the FOW rules means any unit with unusual vision distance, right? I'm planning on making Nomads used as scouts instead. That's actually a really good idea :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47948201 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Oh wait i just realized, it must be beatable with 3 savestates. Does this mean on the first try, disallowing trial-and-error gameplay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) Oh wait i just realized, it must be beatable with 3 savestates. Does this mean on the first try, disallowing trial-and-error gameplay? No. It can take as many tries as you like, but each run through has to be done with a fresh triplet of save states. For example, if you get far in a submission using three save states, but got into an unwinnable scenario and have to restart, then you can use three new save states, but must not use the ones from the previous attempt. Edited June 30, 2012 by MarkyJoe1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladehero22 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 No. It can take as many tries as you like, but each run through has to be done with a fresh triplet of save states. For example, if you get far in a submission using three save states, but got into an unwinnable scenario and have to restart, then you can use three new save states, but must not use the ones from the previous attempt. So, basically you get three save states for each time you play it. With the save state acting as a strike which you can save your progress mid-game. 3 strikes and you're out, in which you get another shot at playing the submission. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 So, basically you get three save states for each time you play it. With the save state acting as a strike which you can save your progress mid-game. 3 strikes and you're out, in which you get another shot at playing the submission. Is that right? Well... basically, if you've already used three save states in that play through, you cannot use any more unless you restart the entire chapter, and when you restart, you must delete the previous save states you used. Clear enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladehero22 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Well... basically, if you've already used three save states in that play through, you cannot use any more unless you restart the entire chapter, and when you restart, you must delete the previous save states you used. Clear enough? Crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felover3 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Two questions so far on the new rules/awards: 1. Are the three savestates no longer given by the hack maker at specific points if they choose to do so? 2. What defines "Excessively Cryptic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Two questions so far on the new rules/awards: 1. Are the three savestates no longer given by the hack maker at specific points if they choose to do so? 2. What defines "Excessively Cryptic". 1. I have infinite savestates, so making "checkpoints" isn't necessary. Though, if you do put checkpoints in, it might take it as a challenge. 2. Any scenerio with a solution that the average player would not be able to figure out realistically. I'm probably going to include riddles in this equation since people tend to make them WAY too cryptic. Edited July 15, 2012 by MarkyJoe1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 would it be unfair if i were to implement a situation that forced you to reset the game as in, there is literally no option but to have to start over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 would it be unfair if i were to implement a situation that forced you to reset the game as in, there is literally no option but to have to start over I have no qualms with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 would it be unfair if i were to implement a situation that forced you to reset the game as in, there is literally no option but to have to start over In the ragefest world, we tend to call those "traps". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyJoe1990 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 In the ragefest world, we tend to call those "traps". Oh lawd. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Ragefest actually had lore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Wouldn't it be hilarious if Ragefest actually had lore? Is it awkward if I was already going to reference the world of ragefest at some point in MoH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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