Staff Abilities

[Ziose0]

Are staffs hardcoded to only heal? Like can you not make staffs do magic damage?

[Crimson Red]

pretty sure they are but the only way to know is to try it out if you haven't already

[Ziose0]

I have and it only healed. Another time I tried the heal effect just was like in an infinite loop. But I thought I remembered seeing (in a ragefest hack I believe) someone with a staff that did damage.

[Crimson Red]

Well, try to find the instance and find out what they did... personally I've had no luck replicating staves and not much more luck editing their attributes

Edited November 12, 2012 by soiweuqjasdklirewvxzcbnm

[SgtSmilies]

MK404 made one. You can ask him how he did it.

Edited November 12, 2012 by SgtSmilies

[Ziose0]

ahhh okay, thank you. Blaz-- er....whatever you go by now .____. I'll let you know when I find out as well. Or I'll just post it here if he says it's okay.

[Robertboybobo]

I have intrest in this thread, I want a staff the has the same effect as Fila's Might.

[Brendor]

I have intrest in this thread, I want a staff the has the same effect as Fila's Might.

that you could just use nightmare

and as far as making a staff a weapon, you just set weapon ability 1 to 0x05 and set power ie how much damage it inflicts and you might wanna change the spell animation. otherwise it works perfectly fine where it inflicts damage to enemies and recovers HP to allies

Edited November 13, 2012 by Brendor the Brave

[dondon151]

i'm pretty sure that giving a staff a dancer ring effect causes the game to freeze

[Brendor]

really? well I know for a fact you can make a staff a weapon as well as a staff

[Agro]

You can? Weren't we just saying that staff effects is somehow tied to item number?

edit: I might have been thinking of staff range, sozza brozza

Edited November 13, 2012 by Agro

[Crimson Red]

There's a table of item/staff effects but it's super hardcoded and confusing and the entire thing works by multiple arrays in the ASM and it's just too annoying

as for filla's might just turn Filla's Might into a staff. that much is easy -_- you can change existing things and keep the effect because it's hardcoded but you can't say, make the heal staff work like the mend staff, or make a new weapon work like Filla's Might, for the most part--it all tends to be hardcoded :|

The most I could ever do was make an alternate Elixir with infinite uses... :| maybe if I get bored I'll go try again but it'd probably take someone who actually knows what they're doing like (insert someone who actually knows what they're doing here)

[CT075]

i can basically confirm that, i spent three hours working with the asm and got nowhere

[Crimson Red]

oh hey that's about the same as me

except my 3 hours are probably like 1% as efficient as you soooo

[Ziose0]

.____. ahh..

but yeah about the weapon thing, I knew it was possible...just completely overthought about how to do it:

"It's actually pretty easy. Just give a staff the Weapon/Magic ability and give it a magic animation that does damage(or the Heal variants, which will damage like reverse healing). Take note that a few staff animations aren't meant to do double attacks, so if you use a staff to attack and you can double, the game may hang. "

that's what MageKnight404 said.