Lord Raven Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Well, compared to my previous test, I generally got higher HP this time. The growth for HP flaw looks more like 60% now. I guess that seems more "realistic" than 50% which would have been really terrible. I wonder if HP uses different numbers for its asset and flaw growth modifiers? Like -20% for flaw and +30% for asset? Bear in mind - and not to trivialize your work or anything, it's great work and much appreciated to this admittedly extremely ambitious project - choosing certain stats as a flaw can also affect your HP growth. As for which ones, I think I can safely agree with what's been posted on the site (though the magnitude may vary). Just some food for thought. It may be why you're seeing a higher growth now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 http://www.serenesforest.net/fe13/char_growth.html But according to the site, HP is only modified by HP asset/flaw and not by any other stat. It's kind of the reason why I wanted to focus on HP. Well, assuming the guidebook was at least accurate in what secondary stats are affected by an asset/flaw. Also, my initial HP flaw tests (which were only 133 level-ups) actually pointed more towards 55%; I was trying to reconcile the possible growth based on the assumption that the asset/flaw modifiers were equal. However, I am starting to suspect that HP uses different numbers for asset/flaw (and maybe Luck too, but I need to get more data) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Some of my data actually really sucks dick on account of the fact that they had like 2 stat points left before maxing and then maxed it in three levels or something. You can ignore that if you wish. This is also normal mode btw. Chrom Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 37 17 2 19 19 15 16 5 Lord 1 42 21 2 21 21 15 19 8 Great Lord 20 56 31 3 32 34 26 28 9 Great Lord 1 49 26 3 30* 26* 26 23 6 Archer 20 60* 27* 6 30* 26* 31* 24* 9 Archer Maxed Def at Level 2, Str at Level 5, Lck at Level 9, HP at Level 14 1 60* 27* 6 26* 26* 31* 25* 9 Cavalier 20 60* 27* 7 26* 26* 31* 25* 13 Cavalier Avatar (Female +Mag -Skl) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 30 19 20 10 15 13 12 11 Tactician 1 34 22 23 12 17 13 14 13 Grandmaster 16 47 26 32 20 24 23 16 18 Grandmaster 1 43 23* 27* 20 25 23 13 19 Pegasus Knight 20 60* 23* 27* 25* 29* 30* 21* 27*Pegasus Knight Maxed Skl/Spd at Level 6, Lck at Level 12, Res at Level 17, HP/Def at Level 20 Frederick Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 1 21 9 2 12 10 6 8 2 Wyvern Rider 20 42 22 7 23 16 14 16 4 Wyvern Rider 1 41 23 7 21 13 14 19 4 Knight 20 60* 32* 7 28* 21* 21 32* 10 Knight Maxed Skl at Level 16, HP/Str at Level 17, Spd at Level 18, Def at Level 19 Lissa Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 36 8 15 10 11 19 7 10 Cleric 1 36 8 15 10 12 19 7 9 Troubadour Maxed Lck at Level 16 20 49 14 25 17 22 32* 12 19 Troubadour 1 49 18 24 22 25 32* 15 20 Pegasus Knight 20 60* 22* 25* 27* 27* 32* 21* 24 Pegasus Knight Maxed Mag at Level 4, Spd at Level 8, Skl at Level 13, HP/Str at Level 14, Def at Level 15 Virion Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 33 16 6 26 17 10 11 6 Archer 1 36 18 6 24 16 10 14 6 Wyvern Rider 20 51 28* 12 26* 23 19 23 11 Wyvern Rider Maxed Skl at Level 6, Str at Level 12 1 48 20* 16 23 22 19 17 14 Mage 20 60* 20* 23 29* 28* 29* 19* 22 Mage Maxed Skl at Level 10, Def at Level 12, Spd at Level 13, HP at Level 18, Def at Level 20 Sully Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 34 17 3 16 15 16 16 8 Cavalier 1 32 15 4 20 19 16 13 9 Myrmidon 20 50 23* 5 29* 30* 26 20 16 Myrmidon Maxed Skl at Level 11, Spd at Level 16, Str at Level 18 1 53 26 4 26* 25 26 24 15 Wyvern Rider 20 60* 27* 8 26* 26* 30* 27* 18 Wyvern Rider Maxed Str/Spd at Level 2, Lck/Def at Level 6, HP at Level 11 Vaike Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 42 20 1 21 13 10 14 1 Fighter 1 44 20 1 19 16 10 13 1 Barbarian 20 60* 32 1 24* 26 19 22* 4 Barbarian Maxed Skill at Level 9, HP Level 16, Def Level 18 1 54 25* 1 27 26 19 21* 4 Thief Maxed Skill at Level 4, Speed at Level 5, HP at Level 8 20 60 25* 1 30* 29* 25 21* 6 Thief Stahl Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 40 18 3 14 17 18 20 5 Cavalier 1 38 17 3 17 17 18 18 5 Archer 20 56 28* 8 29 25* 25 27* 9 Archer Maxed Def at Level 13, Str/Spd at Level 16 1 56 26* 9 28* 28* 25 24* 10 Myrmidon 20 60* 26* 11 28* 28* 28* 24* 13 Myrmidon Maxed Lck at Level 4, HP at Level 5 Miriel Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 35 3 16 13 19 16 7 13 Mage 1 37 4 15 12 18 16 9 14 Dark Mage 20 53 7 24 21 26* 22 18 24 Dark Mage Maxed Spd at Level 11 1 51 6 24 21 27* 22 15 25 Troubadour 20 59 9 29* 25* 27* 30* 18* 28*Troubadour Maxed Skl at Level 7, Mag/Def/Res at Level 9, Lck at Level 18 Sumia Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 34 15 7 28 22 17 12 13 Pegasus Knight 1 34 11 8 23 18 17 9 13 Cleric 20 48 17 16 26* 28* 28 15 27 Cleric Maxed Skl at Level 7, Spd at Level 15 1 50 25 13 28* 26* 28 25 21 Knight 20 60* 28* 17 28* 26* 30* 28* 23*Knight Maxed Lck at Level 3, Str at Level 5, Def/Res at Level 11, HP at Level 12 Kellam Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 36 18 3 15 12 8 22 7 Knight 1 34 10 6 13 14 8 12 13 Priest 20 49 17 12 24 23* 13 23 23 Priest Maxed Spd at Level 15 1 49 20 9 28 26* 13 24* 17 Thief 20 60* 23* 14 30* 26* 21 24* 20*Thief Maxed Skl at Level 6, Str/Res at Level 7, HP at Level 16 Lon'qu Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 32 15 7 22 25 20 13 5 Myrmidon 1 32 14 6 19 23 20 11 4 Thief 20 49 22* 13 32* 31* 29 15 9 Thief Maxed Spd at Level 11, Str at Level 15, Skl at Level 16 1 52 26 13 27* 27* 29 21 9 Wyvern Rider 20 60* 28* 16 27* 27* 30* 26* 11 Wyvern Rider Maxed Lck at Level 5, Str at Level 6, HP at Level 9, Def at Level 11 Donnel Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 30 45 21* 8 19* 19* 33* 21* 14 Villager (Aptitude) Maxed Str at Level 22, Lck at Level 23, Skl at Level 24, Spd at Level 28, Def at Level 29 1 47 25 8 26 25* 33* 25 14 Mercenary (Aptitude) 12 59 27* 12 27* 25* 33* 26* 20 Mercenary (Aptitude) Maxed Str/Def at Level 3, Skl at Level 2 1 60* 30* 12 24 23 33* 25 20 Fighter (Aptitude) 10 60* 30* 15 25* 24* 33* 26* 22*Fighter (Aptitude) Maxed Skl/Spd/Def at Level 2, Res at Level 3 Maribelle Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 28 4 16 15 14 21 8 14 Troubadour 1 28 4 17 16 13 21 9 12 Mage 20 42 8 27 25 23 33* 12 20 Mage Maxed Lck at Level 15 1 42 12 25* 29* 27* 33* 14 23 Pegasus Knight 20 53 17 25* 29* 27* 33* 18 27*Pegasus Knight Maxed Res at Level 15 Ricken Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 36 5 17 15 14 22 15 11 Mage 1 38 11 13 17 16 22 20 8 Cavalier 20 57 18 19 22 25* 31* 25* 12 Cavalier Maxed Lck at Level 13, Def at Level 16, Spd at Level 18, 1 55 17 19 25 25* 31* 23 12 Archer 20 60* 25* 22* 29* 25* 31* 24* 15 Archer Maxed Mag/Def at Level 4, Skl at Level 5, HP at Level 6, Str at Level 14 Panne Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 30 52 25 3 22 29 14 23 6 Taguel 1 50 24* 3 24 31* 14 22* 4 Thief 20 60* 24* 6 31* 31* 21 22* 11 Thief Maxed Skl at Level 8, HP at Level 11 1 60* 30* 6 26* 27* 21 28 11 Wyvern Rider 20 60* 30* 7 26* 27* 26 29* 13 Wyvern Rider Maxed Def at Level 3 Gaius Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 36 16 3 21 27 13 9 6 Thief 1 36 17 3 24 29 13 11 7 Myrmidon 20 53 25* 7 29* 30* 19 13 8 Myrmidon Maxed Spd at Level 2, Skl at Level 7, Str at Level 13 1 57 29 6 25 25 19 13 7 Fighter 20 60* 30* 9 28* 27* 26 21 9 Fighter Maxed Str at Level 2, HP at Level 4, Spd at Level 5, Skl at Level 6 Nowi Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 30 49 19 11 13 12 29 22 15 Manakete 1 51 24 11 18 16 29 28 13 Wyvern Rider 20 60* 29* 19 23* 22* 31* 31* 22*Wyvern Rider Maxed HP at Level 8, Str at Level 10, Lck/Def at Level 4, Skl at Level 13, Spd at Level 15, Res at Level 18 1 57 21* 23 20 21 31* 24* 25 Mage 14 60* 21* 29* 26* 24* 31* 24* 27*Mage Maxed HP/Res at Level 4, Spd at Level 8, Skl at Level 11, Mag at Level 14 Tharja Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 35 6 17 8 19 7 16 8 Dark Mage 1 35 13 14 10 18 7 23 4 Knight Maxed Spd at Level 13, Mag at Level 17, Def at Level 18 20 53 24 23* 16 24 14 31* 12 Knight 1 51 21 23* 20 26* 14 25 12 Archer 20 60* 26* 23* 28* 26* 20 26* 17 Archer Maxed Def at Level 3, Str at Level 10, HP at Level 13, Skl at Level 16 Anna Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 51 20 25 32 34 38 15 19 Trickster 1 48 21 20* 30* 25* 33* 17 14 Archer 20 60* 25* 20* 30* 25* 33* 22 21*Archer Maxed Str at Level 7, HP/Res at Level 15 1 60* 19* 25 25 26* 33* 19 24 Mage 20 60* 19* 28* 28* 26* 33* 20* 25*Mage Maxed Def at Level 2, Res at Level 3, Skl at Level 6, Mag at Level 7 Olivia Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 30 35 13 8 29 28 23 11 10 Dancer 1 35 16 8 29* 29* 23 12 10 Myrmidon 20 50 24* 16 29* 29* 30* 19 12 Myrmidon Maxed Lck at Level 9, Str at Level 16 1 50 24* 17 29* 28* 30* 19 17 Pegasus Knight 20 60* 24* 23* 29* 28* 30* 21* 23 Pegasus Knight Maxed Def at Level 8, Mag at Level 9, HP at Level 16 Henry Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 36 11 18 17 13 15 14 7 Dark Mage 1 34 13 15 21 18 15 12 3 Thief 20 47 23* 21* 31* 28* 22 22* 10 Thief Maxed Skl at Level 11, Str/Mag at Level 12, Spd at Level 14 1 53 28 21* 25* 27* 22 23* 10 Barbarian 20 60* 31* 21* 25* 27* 28* 23* 13 Barbarian Maxed Str at Level 7, HP at Level 9, Lck at Level 13 Say'ri Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 56 28 11 36 33 28 19 18 Swordmaster 1 52 25* 11 29* 28* 28 17 20 Pegasus Knight 20 60* 25* 17 29* 28* 29* 22* 24 Pegasus Knight Maxed Luck at Level 2, HP at Level 9, Def at Level 10 1 60* 28 15 25* 25* 29* 26 18 Wyvern Rider 20 60* 29* 18 25* 25* 29* 28* 21*Wyvern Rider Maxed Str at Level 3, Def at Level 6, Res at Level 8 Tiki Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 30 50 26 17 18 21 28 22 19 Manakete 1 51 28* 17 23 25* 28 28 17 Wyvern Rider 11 60* 28* 19* 24* 25* 32* 29* 22*Wyvern Rider Maxed Skl/Def at Level 2, Mag at Level 5, Lck at Level 7, HP at Level 8, Res at Level 11 1 57 20* 23 21 24 32* 22* 25 Mage 10 60* 20* 27* 27* 27* 32* 22* 27*Mage Maxed HP at Level 4, Mag at Level 6, Skl at Level 10, Spd at Level 4, Res at Level 56 DLC Marth Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 30 42 26 12 31 28 33 21 12 Lodestar (Aptitude) 1 39 23 11 25* 24 33* 20 8 Cavalier (Aptitude) 20 57 27* 19 25* 25* 33* 25* 18 Cavalier (Aptitude) Maxed Spd at Level 3, Str at Level 5, Def at Level 14 DLC Roy Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 36 16 3 19 19 10 11 3 Mercenary 1 36 17 3 16 18 10 13 3 Cavalier 20 52 22 9 28* 25* 20 20 9 Cavalier Maxed Skl/Spd at Level 18 DLC Micaiah Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 32 6 16 16 15 19 11 15 Dark Mage 1 30 9 16 19 17 19 12 14 Tactician 20 46 16 27 25* 25 29* 16 17 Tactician Maxed Skl at Level 9, Lck at Level 19 Let me know if I screwed up somewhere. 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Gryz Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Tests. More of them. 12 Avatars. Luck asset, HP flaw. Level 1 --> Level 20 Tactician. HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res 23 14 16 14 14 24 14 9 29 20 19 14 16 23 14 9 25 20 14 13 16 22 15 11 27 16 18 13 19 21 11 12 27 17 12 14 15 20 11 10 29 17 16 16 20 24 13 7 26 18 12 14 17 19 16 8 28 20 14 16 16 20 14 9 30 18 16 15 13 21 17 10 24 16 14 12 13 22 14 9 32 19 20 16 15 23 14 10 26 19 19 14 18 18 14 11 20 Avatars. HP asset, Luck flaw. Level 1 --> Level 20 Tactician HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res 47 15 11 17 13 13 14 8 45 15 9 14 17 12 14 10 46 16 14 16 18 12 13 10 43 17 13 14 17 8 16 12 43 16 17 14 15 10 14 10 47 18 17 16 13 12 17 13 47 16 9 13 16 13 15 12 44 14 14 14 16 8 19 15 45 15 12 15 16 13 17 9 44 13 10 14 15 11 10 11 44 17 12 15 19 8 15 9 44 14 9 16 19 9 8 9 <-- LOL at that defense 43 14 15 11 13 10 19 9 45 12 14 15 12 9 16 8 44 17 9 14 13 10 19 11 45 13 14 13 15 10 17 10 45 15 13 12 17 14 15 11 44 12 12 13 15 11 13 16 44 15 15 16 12 11 13 11 44 14 12 18 16 14 17 11 Getting more confident HP flaw is 60% and HP asset is 110%. Also, I suspect that Luck growth with Luck asset (without interfering flaws) is higher than 65%. Like 70-75% with it currently leaning more towards 75%. Fun story: I had a +HP/-Luk Avatar not gain Magic for the first 13 level-ups. With a reportedly 45% growth, that's approximately a 1/2373 chance. No where near the odds of a shiny Pokemon though. :( For being such good customers, have a free Virion on the house... Oh? You didn't know I am charging by the level-up? Virion: Level 2 --> Level 20 Archer. The "Skill +2" skill not included in stats. HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res 34 15 4 21 17 15 15 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycolorz5 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) We need a better way to organize this data... Seriously. How about a google doc, separated by character with each class, with a "Hp gained/levels: ... str gained/levels ..." etc. (reason the level gain is separated is so that if someone maxes a stat it won't matter and we can still use the data for the other stats. Then everyone can just tally and add one where it's due. waves hand wildly Ooh me me I wanna process this data!!! I mean I can do some number crunching if you want me to... Edit: also, personally I think we should ignore the kids and/or MU until we have all the non-confusing-growth characters mapped out first. Edited March 12, 2013 by Crazycolorz5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Paperblade originally had an excel doc but his laptop crashed. Once I'm on break and can get online more, paper and I will setup the google doc and recalculate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNinjaGuy Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I don't know if this has been mentioned, but +HP!Avatar has a >100% HP growth, because mine's just went up by two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OcarinaOfDoom Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Lon'qu Myrmidon Lv.10 HP 25 Str 9 Mag 2 Skill 17 Spd 19 Lck 10 Def 8 Res 3 Vaike Fighter Lv.13 HP 36(HP+5 not included) Str 16 Mag 3 Skill 15 Spd 13 Lck 10 Def 11 Res 0 Stahl Cavalier Lv.13 HP 32 Str 16 Mag 3 Skill 12 Spd 11 Lck 13 Def 15 Res 3 Miriel Mage Lv.16 HP 28 Str 1 Mag 17 SKill 16 Spd 16 Lck 15 Def 7 Res 8 Ricken Mage Lv.10 HP 27 Str 5 Mag 10 Skill 9 Spd 8 Lck 15 Def 10 Res 8 Chrom Lord Lv. 15 HP 32 Str 16 Mag 3 Skill 16 Spd 18 Lck 15 Def 14 Res 4 MU Tactician +Spd -Res Lv.16 HP 32 Str 13 Mag 14 Skill 14 Spd 20 Lck 11 Def 12 Res 6 Sumia Pegasus Knight Lv.12 HP 26 Str 14 Mag 8 Skill 19 Spd 18 Lck 14 Def 9 Res 13 Sully Cavalier Lv.13 HP 28 Str 13 Mag 2 Skill 13 Spd 14 Lck 17 Def 12 Res 5 Virion Archer Lv.12 HP 25 Str 11 Mag 3 Skill 13 Spd 11 Lck 12 Def 11 Res 3 all on Normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Miriel Lv20 HP 21 Str 1 Mag 14 Skl 16 Spd 17 Lck 14 Def 4 Res 10 and a 10/3 Sage Miriel from the draft but I doubt its useful 29hp 3Str 15Mag 16Skl 18Spd 16Lck 7Def 10Res I really shouldnt use Miriel as a sage ever. Edited March 16, 2013 by CordeliaxFrederick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) We just compiled a google doc to keep track of stuff. I'll be updating it throughout the day today, no promises on daily updates (or even weekly updates) but I will try my best. https://docs.google.com/a/umbc.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhpIpUc0mrHgdEVFbk9WQ21XMUFReGhxdEJUeHVoVGc#gid=0 We have separate tabs to view the data compiled for each character and class. It'll look a little congested but I'll try my best to organize it. EDIT: Also, is there any way to split the individual spreadsheets on the google docs into "folders" or something? Edited March 18, 2013 by Lord Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Avatar (spd+, def-) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 35 18 16 16 20 15 10 6 Tactician Lon'qu Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 35 15 6 26 26 16 10 4 Myrmidon Sully Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 37 12 6 16 20 19 16 8 Cavalier Vaike Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 42+5 20 1 19 17 15 15 3 Fighter Miriel Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 32 2 15 16 17 19 9 14 Mage Chrom Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 33 20 4 19 19 14 17 6 Lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Hey again, I used google folders in google drive to organize them. Here is the link to the google folder. Finished and updated everything. :) Edited March 19, 2013 by Lord Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) Chrom's Lord growths are really close to having only one multiple of 5 left as an option. Also, for those of you who don't know how to read CIs, it calculates 2 sigma, so the growths are the top row of numbers in the gold area +/- the second row divided by 2. So Chrom's growths are HP: 81 +/- 2.5 (80%) Str: 61 +/- 3.5 (60%) Mag: 11 +/- 2 (10%) Skl: 63 +/- 3.5 (60/65%) Spd: 60 +/- 3.5 (60%) Lck: 69 +/- 3 (70%) Def: 47 +/- 3.5 (45/50%) Res: 23 +/- 3 (20/25%) Edited March 19, 2013 by Paperblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 [03/18/13 21:40] <clipseykitty> Okay. Cherche incoming. And some other bonus characters for giggles. Name Class Level HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Virion Archer 14.65 30 10 1 19 13 13 10 4 Gaius Thief 16.13 32 14 6 23 21 8 8 5 Nowi Manakete 10.32 26 8 4 6 5 13 8 8 Olivia Dancer 9.98 25 4 1 15 13 10 5 4 Cherche W. Rider 19.24 38 21 4 16 13 12 20 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 UNIT LEVEL HP ST MG SK SP LC DF RS CLASS LISSA 16 25 03 12 13 11 15 07 12 CLERIC AVATAR (+LCK-RES) 15 32 14 12 11 14 18 09 05 TACTICIAN DONNEL 10 25 06 04 09 09 20 06 02 VILLAGER W APTITUDE CHROM 15 32 16 03 14 16 15 14 05 LORD VIRION 14 30 13 04 18 12 11 11 03 ARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) Unit Class Lv HP St Mg Sk Sp Lk Df Rs Say'ri Swordmaster 20 59 31 12 35 39 28 21 18 Cherche Wyvern Rider 20 39 21 2 18 16 13 21 5 Henry Dark Mage 20 37 11 17 20 12 13 17 6 Sumia Pegasus Knight 20 31 10 10 27 25 21 8 13 I keep getting awful Sumias :/. Surprised at Say'ri. Henry is awful. EDIT: Above awful Sumia grinded to Level 20 Dark Flier real quick. Unit Class Lv HP St Mg Sk Sp Lk Df Rs Sumia Dark Flier 20 50 20 24 43 36 31 13 27 I think Dark Flier might drastically affect mag, res and spd growth. She capped skl exactly at Level 20 Dark Flier Edited March 19, 2013 by CordeliaxFrederick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Updated up until now (and added some of my own stats in, expect like 39 levels of DLC Alm, whose Str growth may be 80%) but quick request - if you do not list base stats, then instead mention which mode you are playing on. Some units (like Cherche) are easy to guess because I know she has 100% HP growth, but other units are a little harder to guess. I've been assuming hard mode generally, and hopefully I've been correct. Also, for my convenience, please list the Level 1 stats if you promote. For example, with PKL (even if he is an ass and has me on ignore I'm going to place this out there for all of the people out there who do follow directions and requests), he listed the Level 20 stats for Sumia and her Level 20 stats as a Dark Flier, mentioning that it's the same Sumia. It's more convenient for me if you list the post-promotion stats, as opposed to having me look up the promo gains and constantly second guess my ability to add because i'm flipping through like 4 windows at once. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Updated up until now (and added some of my own stats in, expect like 39 levels of DLC Alm, whose Str growth may be 80%) but quick request - if you do not list base stats, then instead mention which mode you are playing on. Some units (like Cherche) are easy to guess because I know she has 100% HP growth, but other units are a little harder to guess. I've been assuming hard mode generally, and hopefully I've been correct. Also, for my convenience, please list the Level 1 stats if you promote. For example, with PKL (even if he is an ass and has me on ignore I'm going to place this out there for all of the people out there who do follow directions and requests), he listed the Level 20 stats for Sumia and her Level 20 stats as a Dark Flier, mentioning that it's the same Sumia. It's more convenient for me if you list the post-promotion stats, as opposed to having me look up the promo gains and constantly second guess my ability to add because i'm flipping through like 4 windows at once. Thanks! Heh, nobody here lists promo gains if theyre the same character. Yet, of course, Im the only you call out. tsk tsk I was kind enough to level a Sumia in EXPonential growth and track her stats for the sake of this project. Now I would appreciate if you weren't criticizing me 24/7. Look at yourself first, "Lord" Raven. Mr. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) I was listing an example because you were the post directly above me and the only post on this page that did that. Not sure why you took that particular part of the post as a personal attack (the thing in parens was, though), because I'm not going to link them to Balcerzak's post a couple pages back just to show them what I'm talking about lol If I was really being spiteful, I'd have called your name out for the first half of the post too. But I didn't, because I thought I didn't need an example to illustrate my point. Edited March 20, 2013 by Lord Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I was listing an example because you were the post directly above me. Not sure why you took that particular part of the post as a personal attack (the thing in parens was, though), because I'm not going to link them to Balcerzak's post a couple pages back just to show them what I'm talking about lol Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Avatar (Spd +, Def -) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 1 54 27 20 31 35 25 15 10 Swordmaster Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class 20 72 37 26 42 50* 36 20 15 Swordmaster *Spd Capped at lvl 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 If it helps, all the stats I've listed so far are on Hard. Does the mode make a difference, in terms of growth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 eclipse: I assumed as much haha It doesn't make a difference, but some units have slightly different base stats that affect the growths when we input your statistics into the spreadsheet. It makes a slight difference for some units, but someone like Cherche if i assume the wrong mode then she no longer has 100% +/- 0% growth anymore. Which sucks because she has a pretty strong case of having 100% HP growth lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 eclipse: I assumed as much haha It doesn't make a difference, but some units have slightly different base stats that affect the growths when we input your statistics into the spreadsheet. It makes a slight difference for some units, but someone like Cherche if i assume the wrong mode then she no longer has 100% +/- 0% growth anymore. Which sucks because she has a pretty strong case of having 100% HP growth lol Oh, right, I completely forgot about that! For whatever I input, assume Hard Mode unless I say otherwise (Normal is roflstomp mode, and I'm not interested in Lunatic yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Dunno if it's been brought up before, but Berzerker!Gregor has over 100% HP Growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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