BBM Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Well, my scumread against you is not very strong, but I don't really like your case against SB. The whole thing basically boils down to "SB thought Smilies was town and did nothing to stop it". But why would scum do that? If your scumbuddy is receiving heat and you're going to say he's town, why not actually try to stop it? Saying your scumbuddy is town and not actually going to any lengths to stop their lynch both makes you look bad for defending them and doesn't even stop your buddy from being lynched. It's a lose-lose situation. The other reason you give is that he voted Paperblade for not giving reads even though he hadn't given any of his own reads, but I don't really think that's true. People voted Paperblade because he had no reads despite being fairly active in-thread. IMO, voting someone for that is scumhunting. Your case against SB being IMO not very good doesn't make you scum, yeah, but some of the reasons just seem fabricated. And I don't think your's or anybody's case against Prims is that good either. I have to apologize to everyone. My play's been lackluster this game because of school and because I'm quite honestly paying more attention to FR right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinnidy Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Did anybody say votals? Areox (1): Gallade Shinori (1): Lucina Lucina (3): BBM, Elieson, SB SB (1): Shinori Paperblade (2): Areox, Priam Priam (2): Paperblade, Bluedoom Not voting: Darros, Borondoof It takes 5 to lynch, 7 to hammer. Btw. Edited March 20, 2013 by Xinnidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I suppose I could've ben Jaoled, or my target was hit up by a Safeguard, or I was hooked, or something else even I dunno. Lucina's wishy washy "I prefer SB over Shinori but I'm kinda POE'ing it" is bad and bad. Marth may be obvitown to Paperblade, but im finding him less and less town with his incessant bitching and Tbf he could be lying since he effectively tried to cc before Baldy announced there could be dupes. Seems pretty graspy. Paperblade's "Obvitown-Probtown-scum" list is glorious, but I fail to see how Prims is overly scummy for his reaction test (which kinda worked anyway), and how Marth is still obvitown based on what seems to be entirely around his role claim and little else. I'm not sure how to read this, maybe just more clarification would help me understand your thoughts there. Shinori, thanks for contributing finally. Stop begging for us to not lynch Areox. Looks bad INO Still cool with a luci lynch above all else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 We've got less than three hours left, so IMO Lucina should claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I have a reason for it Elie. It's okay. <3 Start role speccing! Lucina should definitely claim yeh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm Odd Night Tracker. Rapier targeted Marth on N1 and got no result. I haven't had a chance to use it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Rapier targeted Marth on N1 and got no result. ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 oh wait i'm retarded, i read that as you tracked rapier because i forgot you were his sub by "no result" do you mean roleblocked or do you mean that marth didn't go anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 @Elieson: I actually said that Prims's cop fakeclaim WASN'T scummy, and was disagreeing with Shinori (who said it was). The scumread on Prims is weird for me since it's sort of a gut feeling, and if I he were to claim something that made me unvote him I would probably vote Boron. I think Marth is town based on his interaction with Smile in addition to the claim; Smile's vote on him was really opportunistic and came after Marth claimed, I think if they were scumbuddies Smile would have continued to not vote or jump on another wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Marth visited no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 ok I pretty much believe Lucina's claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Lucina's claim is odd; Marth is an easy target to fake, and an odd-night Tracker seems weak when we have an alignment cop in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 @Elieson: I actually said that Prims's cop fakeclaim WASN'T scummy, and was disagreeing with Shinori (who said it was). The scumread on Prims is weird for me since it's sort of a gut feeling, and if I he were to claim something that made me unvote him I would probably vote Boron. I think Marth is town based on his interaction with Smile in addition to the claim; Smile's vote on him was really opportunistic and came after Marth claimed, I think if they were scumbuddies Smile would have continued to not vote or jump on another wagon. I didn't say prims was scummy for claiming cop. ;/ I seriously think you just misunderstood me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm inclined to believe it due to a similar "X-night" restriction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I didn't say prims was scummy for claiming cop. ;/ I seriously think you just misunderstood me. You said something that implied you didn't like how he was attacking Areox, and I said I didn't think it was weird since he was doing it to get reactions from people and not necessarily just Areox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areox Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Ok so Shinori obviously isn't getting lynched today, and now I'm a bit calmer I think his actions make a bit more sense as town. Out of the wagons that could take off, I'd rather lynch Lucina, for reasons stated earlier. Prims was trying to contribute early on before he went inactive (and by early I mean like before the rest of the game) so I'd put him above Lucina, even though some of his later play hasn't been stellar. ##Unvote ##Vote: Lucina Areox should out who he's supported and they should confirm, or else I'd be fine with a lynch on him. Why didnt you ask that of paper? From what I saw, paper only said the person he talked to was cop or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I commented on how he continued to push Areox. Because to this point Prims has said he still thinks Areox is scummy and should be lynched. BUT ANYWAY that probably isn't gonna help that much at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 uhhhh dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 ##Unvote ##Vote: Areox I'd rather go for this than a Lucina lynch and the Paperblade wagon doesn't seem to have much support. Also, dodging a question to ask another one that would basically out the cop is really "what". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 ##Unvote: ##Vote: Prims I like this lynch at the moment. Frankly has done nothing but tunnel Areox all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm not going to out my partner because there's no guarantee they will survive the night if I do, and unless they+BBM are the remaining scum I would rather be lynched than out their identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Also Shinori that's a pretty blatant misrep considering Prims is currently voting me over Areox (unless I missed an unvote somewhere) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 He just voted Areox again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 So he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Specific issues with Areox posts: I think its justifiable for me to accuse three people since I havent posted anything really. reads nervous about appearance to me, I'm not sure why he'd be worried about suspecting three people? Mancer wagon falls apart, blue goes for prims, AND claims back up. I dont even know what that is, but I'm sure that claiming something like that was just an attempt to save his ass. What makes this an attempt to "save (Marth's) ass" more than any other roleclaim? This and the NL seem to be Areox's only beef against Marth yet he's confident to post ALL CAPS asking why Marth wasn't lynched. By the way, Prims, Its not that I needed votes to post, that was just when I decided to become active really I guess. Why wait until Day 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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