Your Favorite and Least Favorite Lord

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

To be fair theres a lot of Lord that kinda failed to show themself as a character

As much of a failure Sigurd is, Seliph manage to become such a perfect nice guy that by the second chapter of the game, the game's name can be changed into Genealogy of Thracia and it won't change anything....

And one of the problem for Micaiah in general can be traced back to the fact that Spotlight Stealing Mercenary is around in Telius

[Rapier]

To be fair theres a lot of Lord that kinda failed to show themself as a character

As much of a failure Sigurd is, Seliph manage to become such a perfect nice guy that by the second chapter of the game, the game's name can be changed into Genealogy of Thracia and it won't change anything....

And one of the problem for Micaiah in general can be traced back to the fact that Spotlight Stealing Mercenary is around in Telius

Sigurd's only problem is that he didn't know how to play the game of thrones. He suceeded on invading Verdane, conquering Agustria, stopping Shagaal and he curbstomped everything infront of him until Ch 5 End. He wasn't much different from Seliph imo.

[Rehab]

Sigurd's a tragic hero in the fullest sense, his fatal flaw makes him a better character. Eirika, on the other hand, is simply [figuratively] green as hell and complicates her journey for it. Which I don't think I can claim to be a bad thing, as in that it makes her "worse" than Sigurd, her situation is just more in the category of "hero learns a hard lesson" than "hero becomes a hard lesson." which I personally find a smidge less interesting, particularly in execution

[Lord Sage]

Favourite: Hmm.... this is a tough one but I am going with Ephraim because he has it all.

Courage, recklessness but not to illogical amounts and two great marriage options and of course he is a great unit.

Of course he has some bad characteristics but no one can be perfect[even in video games].

Least favourite: Micaiah no contest. Do i need to explain why i hate her?

And I am very displeased to not see her get the most votes for least favourite.

I know roy is bland to the core but at least he is not irritating.[ She is a better unit i guess but that is not enough

to make her better than him.]

[Garteam]

Favorite: Marth, I like his design and he is truly one of the most human characters in the series when it comes emotions. Think about, the Marth you see at the end of the prologue is nothing like the Marth you see in the rest of the game. He isn't the "so nice and trusting, he is naive" guy you see throughout the rest of the game, he shows anger when his family is murdered by Dohrl, he gets depressed when he has to sacrifice a man in his stead. Plus he is the only character that even remotely seems depressed and guilty over watching his men and friends die. Also the fact ingame he's not shabby either definitely helps a bit.

Least Favorite: Unimportant to plot, Posterchild for a forced tutorial mode, and having to eat her special weapon to be even remotely useful in gameplay out weighs "she is hot" imo.

[Samias]

Least Favorite: Unimportant to plot, Posterchild for a forced tutorial mode, and having to eat her special weapon to be even remotely useful in gameplay out weighs "she is hot" imo.

You forgot the name of your least favourite lord, though I suspect you're talking about Lyn.

[Gold Vanguard]

Favorite: Ike

Least favorite: Lyn

[Anacybele]

OMG, Ike is now winning the poll, even beating Lucina! I never expected that, what with how popular the latter is. :o

[Shotguner159]

OMG, Ike is now winning the poll, even beating Lucina! I never expected that, what with how popular the latter is. :o

More people dislike Ike though.

[Rewjeo]

I don't understand all the hate for Micaiah's character. It's not like she's the best character ever, but she is forced into a situation where she has to choose who lives and who dies, and doing so forces her to compromise her morals. I don't really find any of the lords very compelling (I blame that on the text box+face format of FE) but I see more potential there than in the other lords.

[Anacybele]

More people dislike Ike though.

So? Doesn't matter to me. I just care that Ike is loved as much as he is.

[Vashiane]

I don't understand all the hate for Micaiah's character. It's not like she's the best character ever, but she is forced into a situation where she has to choose who lives and who dies, and doing so forces her to compromise her morals. I don't really find any of the lords very compelling (I blame that on the text box+face format of FE) but I see more potential there than in the other lords.

True, she's not. I'll admit her concept is interesting... I just don't feel it was executed in a way to make me sympathize and appreciate her character. She comes off as downright whiny sometimes, and her actions don't justify all the praise heaped onto her in-game. Plus, a majority of the other cast members are excellent, so she seems very lackluster in comparison.

And I was very, very thrown with her gameplay as well. A light mage with a dark affinity? That sounds like a fanfiction character.

[Rapier]

True, she's not. I'll admit her concept is interesting... I just don't feel it was executed in a way to make me sympathize and appreciate her character. She comes off as downright whiny sometimes, and her actions don't justify all the praise heaped onto her in-game. Plus, a majority of the other cast members are excellent, so she seems very lackluster in comparison.

And I was very, very thrown with her gameplay as well. A light mage with a dark affinity? That sounds like a fanfiction character.

It makes sense in context. I admit I like Micaiah, but her character wasn't executed well during the game... Which is an issue RD has, sadly.

[Just call me AL]

You forgot the name of your least favourite lord, though I suspect you're talking about Lyn.

Which is something I don't actually get. Especially considering some of the logic.

And I was very, very thrown with her gameplay as well. A light mage with a dark affinity? That sounds like a fanfiction character.

I don't think there's anything dictating that a character's affinity restricts what type of magic they can use.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Little Al

[ManlySpirit]

Hey, I'm trying to sample as many gaming communities as I can in this Fire Emblem poll I'm running. I noticed you already have a poll, but if you guys could vote in my poll that'd be great

Vote for your favorite lords to see the results:

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=51763efee4b0bd1609c69c04

You can vote for as many Lords as you want.

On a different note, should I make a separate thread for this? It feels weirds to have TWO poll threads on the same topic, but I wanna get as many votes as possible.

[Faye]

I don't understand all the hate for Micaiah's character. It's not like she's the best character ever, but she is forced into a situation where she has to choose who lives and who dies, and doing so forces her to compromise her morals. I don't really find any of the lords very compelling (I blame that on the text box+face format of FE) but I see more potential there than in the other lords.

I agree with this entirely. Poor Micaiah goes through so much, and the only people "highly praising" Micaiah are the desperate people of Daein. You don't see any other nation proclaiming her to be the best. She really doesn't deserve the amount of hate she gets.

And I was very, very thrown with her gameplay as well. A light mage with a dark affinity? That sounds like a fanfiction character.

How is it so unusual? Because someone like Tormod sepcializes in fire has a Fire Element? Ilyana has a Light effinity, but she uses Thunder Magic, she obviously should have a Thunder element instead.

[Narga_Rocks]

How is it so unusual? Because someone like Tormod sepcializes in fire has a Fire Element? Ilyana has a Light effinity, but she uses Thunder Magic, she obviously should have a Thunder element instead.

Not really. Light and Thunder aren't opposites. Now, say, a Fire specialist with a water affinity would be something worth commenting on just like a light user with darkness affinity. It's just odd is all.

[RNG Princess]

So thats why Miccy uses dark magic in awakening ;w;. Maybe she's bipolar.

[BrightBow]

Or it's simply to go along with Nosferatu being a Dark Magic spell in this game. Besides, Micaiah's final class was Shaman, which has the habit of switching magic type along with the Nosferatu tome.

But personally I think that the art director merely wanted an excuse to have her drawn wearing nothing but body paint rather then with a stylish hat. Man, that would have been sooooo sweet. Mage hats make everything better.

...Aaaaanyway, given that Soren and Zelgius also have dark affinity, I would say that it's simply a Branded thing.

Affinity is kind of overrated anyway. Even Calill has Dark affinity and it doesn't match her personality at all.

Edit:

Come to think of it, I haven't voted myself yet.

Best is Ike.
Admittedly, like your average Lord he is rather bland. Presumably so a player can easily identify with him.
But I think he is better then the competition for the way he is used.

Like, this is the first time in the series that they don't just drop a massive info dump on you at the beginning.
Instead, you learn those things when they become relevant, along with Ike. It feels much more natural and makes it easy to identify with him.

But more importantly, it makes perfect sense that someone as bland and uneducated as Ike would become a hero. It's not just convenience for that audience.

Because it's a world that more then anything is marked by prejudice and categorization.

As someone who doesn't know anything about the world, he has no prejudice. Therefore he can see the world for what it is.

So he can go against the flow and actually work towards archiving change.

On the downside, there are a few hickups to him that mess with PoR's otherwise excellent writing.

Ike being made to lead the group like a week after he was allowed to enter the field feels rather odd. Especially after screwing up the hostage situation.

And then he becomes the leader of the whole group for real after Greil dies, leaving the way more experienced Titania in the dust.

Not to mention that he is so uneducated that it's seems impossible to believe. He lived 17 years and didn't even know that there were 2 species on the world?

And I think that he and the Black Knight had a rather dull rivalry because they had nothing in common.

Still, I say the good outweighs the bad by far.

As for worst, I just keep it short and say Roy for being a bad Marth clone.

Edited April 25, 2013 by BrightBow

[Snickers]

Favorite Lord: Hector because he's not just a lord with high speed and terrible attack and awful defense, plus he has a amazing animation.

Least Favorite: Eliwood because terrible growths, but somehow he's worse than Micaiah which is sad.

[Dksoulstice]

Favorite is Ephraim because he's an awesome character and a badass.

Least favorite is Lyn because she is irrelevant to the story of FE7 and has a terrible endgame weapon that completely nullifies her strongest combat capability.

[Just call me AL]

I keep hearing people say that "Lyn holds no story signifigance after her own tale in FE7". But honestly, if you take her out of FE7, then what? All you get is the party having no real way to track the Black Fang all the way back to their base. Which ultimately leads to both Zephiel's death and a time paradox. (Especially since the Eliwood and Hector have to be at the Black Fang's base to overhear Sonia's, Nino's Brendan's, and Jaffar's discussion on how to carry out Desmond's plans for Zephiel.)

Caelin would almost certainly be an enemy during the main story since, without Lyn, Lundgren would likely be the Marquess of Caelin since there would be no one to save Hausen. And considering how much of a monster Lundgren is, I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to team up with either Nergal, Darin, or both.

And while Lyn doesn't have to be present for Ninian to be rescued from Nergal's captivity during Lyn's Story, the same cannot be said for Nils who would certainly be captured by Nergal soon after he decides to go get help. And since Nergal only needs one of the two siblings, what would be stopping him from acting sooner? Capturing Elbert? A dragon would have been completely unleashed not a single moment after Nergal captures Elbert, leading up to all of Elibe either being destroyed by a berserk dragon, or Nergal destroying Elibe himself or even subjugating it.

I don't know about any of you, but I'd say that's pretty darn important. Maybe even Han Solo important.

Edited February 11, 2014 by Just call me Al

[RJWalker]

I'll say that she's like Linoan. A character that should be more important, all things considered yet was just added into an established story and because she isn't present in said established tale (neither Caelin nor Tahra are ever mentioned in FE4/6) they need to write her and render her meaningless.

[Just call me AL]

I'll say that she's like Linoan. A character that should be more important, all things considered yet was just added into an established story and because she isn't present in said established tale (neither Caelin nor Tahra are ever mentioned in FE4/6) they need to write her and render her meaningless.

But still! Is it fair to say that Lyn "has no story importance whatsoever" and "FE7 would be better off without her" when there's stuff pointing to the contrary? That's what I don't get. Even the smallest action can create a large chain reaction after all. Not to mention that it makes me wonder if the people saying that even heard of the "Lancer" trope.

Edited February 11, 2014 by Just call me Al

[ZemZem]

But still! Is it fair to say that Lyn "has no story importance whatsoever" and "FE7 would be better off without her" when there's stuff pointing to the contrary? That's what I don't get. Even the smallest action can create a large chain reaction after all.

I suppose the reason why Lyn gets so many comments like that is because her mode was strictly a tutorial and nothing more, despite there being, in my opinion, interesting characters and dialogue (Eagler should've played more of a role in the story, IMO, since he had an interesting dynamic with Kent and Sain).