BK-201 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Is this game better than Heroes of Newerth? Never played HoN, but heard the community sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 My one friend played HoN, and said that the levelling makes no sense, he can't figure out how to buy items, and was generally confused the whole time. He also said that the matchmaking system could put you up against the best players in the game when you're just starting. I've never played HoN, so I am biased towards LoL. Also, HoN, form what I heard, is a lot harder than LoL. Not sure if HoN has patch updates and character changes that make no sense (RIP Evelynn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Well, of course stuff is confusing if you don't know what it is.. MOBAs have high learning curves... It depends on your tastes, really. If you're looking for something with more features and more polished, I'd say HoN, LoL has a larger competitive community afaik. The play styles are a bit different too, it's up to each person, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Evelyn's nerf was to postpone for rework, as according to Riot, her toolkit was against her design philosophy. Anyway, as HoN became F2P I might try it and give you my thoughts after a sufficient amount of time. Your friend probably just started and should read up before passing judgment so quickly. Learning curves and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 HoN and LoL are both fine games although HoN is a little iffy now in the sense that you can pay to play new heroes before they become "officially" released to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 So, Nunu's become my favourite champion right now, but I was curious, are his lane match-ups dependent on his partner? If he lanes with an AD Carry, he provides a massive slow and a buff that can be used to get off those last few attacks as well as close the gap. If he's with an AP Carry though, it becomes very hard for him to be of use besides a slow stopping them from escaping. In other words, should I lane with an AD Carry as much as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 So, Nunu's become my favourite champion right now, but I was curious, are his lane match-ups dependent on his partner? If he lanes with an AD Carry, he provides a massive slow and a buff that can be used to get off those last few attacks as well as close the gap. If he's with an AP Carry though, it becomes very hard for him to be of use besides a slow stopping them from escaping. In other words, should I lane with an AD Carry as much as possible? Nunu should go in jungle. Traditional supports are much better with AD carries given that AS is only useful for sustained damage, which isn't happening in lane. Nunu is also a really invasive jungler due to consume so laning also gives that up. Him in jungling will give all the positives of lane Nunu and more as his buff isn't really useful in lane outside of MS, which is less useful than a traditional support's toolkit, and his ganks give that slow to knock down enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 ^^^ to the 10th power nunu in es lane not #1, jangle, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 3, 2011 Author Share Posted August 3, 2011 Considering I'm only level 6/7 or so, jungle isn't a really viable option right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 3, 2011 Author Share Posted August 3, 2011 Considering I'm only level 6/7 or so, jungle isn't a really viable option right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Play a different character then. Laning really gives up what's good about Nunu. Plus, if you're playing him as support Q is going to be stealing CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 Fair enough. Let's see who's free...Taric would probably be a fun choice, seeing as I like playing support characters, for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) Fair enough. Let's see who's free...Taric would probably be a fun choice, seeing as I like playing support characters, for some reason. EDIT: Dear internet, stop screwing up and double-posting. Edited August 4, 2011 by Soren37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 anivia #1 support, always wall to keep team safe, team never die, always win http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJAN1oDRJpk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 So what do you dudes think of this dominion business? For those who haven't heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Share Posted August 5, 2011 @Pieman: Please tell me it's a troll. Oh please. @Pride: I don't want to get too excited yet, but it looks promising to add some new dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 anivia #1 support, always wall to keep team safe, team never die, always win http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJAN1oDRJpk brb stacking mana on anivia. So what do you dudes think of this dominion business? For those who haven't heard. Ehh, it's one of those things I have to try for myself before giving an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 @ soren, noo?? anivia is best support, that video is #1 at showing the best guide for supporting anivia @ pride i agree with joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 So after playing Taric, I really want to get more into the Support role for LoL, as it feels that I can do it very well. However, I was wondering if I could get some tips on how to properly support, besides warding and taking as many of Gold/10 items. Supports I like to play are: Zilean, Taric, Soraka, and Sona if I ever get enough IP for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 Don't last hit minions taking away gold from ur teammate Thank you, but I do remember that one. Things I know and actively try to do: -Save teammates (either through shielding, healing, or stunning) -Avoid last-hitting -Buy support items, such as Shuryela's and CDR Boots -Don't jungle (I rarely do unless I really want more gold) -Try to build tanky instead of focusing on AP (most support champs need it) Things I know but don't do as often: -Ward -Hang back -Not do stupid things (initiate, positioning, losing myself in a teamfight, etc.) Other than that, I'm not sure what else I should try and do. Any suggestions, or build comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 for support stack the hell out of gold items if you're not getting cs then you need to maximize the amount of gold you can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) So, let's use Janna as an example. I'd probably grab: Philo Stone, Kage's, HoG, CDR Boots, and Aegis. Those I guess would be core. After that, I'd probably grab a Shuryela's, Randuin's, sell the Kage's and buy an AP item of some sort, most likely an Abyssal Scepter, with the open slot for wards. So, final build is Shuryela's, Randuin's, CDR Boots, Aegis, and Abyssal Scepter, with a slot for wards and potions. EDIT: Masteries would probably be 9/0/21 across the board. EDIT EDIT: Does Magic Pen work on people that you're healing as well? Or does magic pen only penetrate enemy MR? Edited August 11, 2011 by Soren37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 So, let's use Janna as an example. I'd probably grab: Philo Stone, Kage's, HoG, CDR Boots, and Aegis. Those I guess would be core. After that, I'd probably grab a Shuryela's, Randuin's, sell the Kage's and buy an AP item of some sort, most likely an Abyssal Scepter, with the open slot for wards. So, final build is Shuryela's, Randuin's, CDR Boots, Aegis, and Abyssal Scepter, with a slot for wards and potions. EDIT: Masteries would probably be 9/0/21 across the board. EDIT EDIT: Does Magic Pen work on people that you're healing as well? Or does magic pen only penetrate enemy MR? Healing isn't affected by MR. Also, Taric isn't restrained to support. AP Taric completely destroys Jax in lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 I know that they can be played pure AP as well, I just seem to prefer the babysitter/support role more. Carrying doesn't work and tanking is almost unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Lane Udyr is still strong, lol. Trashed a Morde solo top as one yesterday. Even killed him twice 1v1 with no ganks from my jungler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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