47948201 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (This is mostly FE-related, but it can also be placed more generally, so I'm putting it here) But what if FE14, or 17, or 52-whatever, or some other game or something has a player avatar character and marriage? Would/will you feel guilty remarrying after having a husbando/waifu in Awakening (or from somewhere else, I guess), or do you justify this by "video game marriage is meaningless" or "it's a different 'me' in this universe" or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 What in the name of god is transuniversal marriage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted35362 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 ...you have not made a topic and 50 years and this is what you return with? hehe you're just too much!! (｡￣ヮ￣｡) <3 well, i haven't played fe13, but don't the MUs actually have lines of their own? i dunno, it seems like mario is more of a personal self-insert than the avatars because they're never the issue of him yakking on about things the player might not agree with. other than that...i guess it depends a lot on how much the player personifies with their avatar...i dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47948201 Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 What in the name of god is transuniversal marriage? Ehe, guess the title can sound strange ^-^; Basically I'm wondering if people think that virtual relationships carry between different virtual universes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I didn't really have any particular attachment to my avatar's partner, since it's not me. I don't see any problems if avatar pairings turn up in another game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klokinator Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 PK's actually made a ton of topics recently lol. You just haven't been paying attention. I always read my waifu's topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Unless I end up ever being (hint: never) like that Sal9000 guy in Japan and married his waifu... literally... I don't see any problems here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) Viewing a player-created avatar as literally "myself" opens up a can of insatiable worms that I've never been fond of dealing with, this being one of the more ridiculously contrived among them (re "'I' coupled with X in X1, so now when 'I' couple with Y in Y2, 'I' am cheating on X) When I pursue a romantic option in interactive media, I do it to see where the story goes with it; essentially, to see content (hopefully, content that I''ll find interesting, but anyway). There could easily be some element of fantasizing about what it'd be like to be in that relationship myself, but that's more a matter of allowing the path I've chosen in [insert media] to charge my imagination, than to attempt to possess something immaterial. I'm doing my best with what content I'm given to create role-playing characters, in other words. My Commander Shepard, my Avatar (Robin), my Nameless One and my Niko Bellic (and who they get together with, if anybody) don't really mix in my head. Edited August 8, 2013 by Rehab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxie Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yeah, that's not a problem. I assign no great love to my "waifus". Besides, say I really did feel that my avatar married Cordelia and life is great and my avatar loves her very much. Making a new avatar in FE52 wouldn't be that same avatar anyway even if he/she looked identical and bore the same name. Nor would it be me. I'm not (and my avatar's) not cheating on Cordelia if I marry some other woman in a totally different game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted35362 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 PK's actually made a ton of topics recently lol. You just haven't been paying attention. I always read my waifu's topics. it's been over a month lolol ...wait, waifu? O_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I don't understand people who get attached to their waifus and husbandos to a ridiculous extent even in Awakening. I mean ... they're pixels. And my avatar isn't me. (I'm certainly not a dude.) Answer be no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) what the hell? incredibly odd topic. but, given your brief explanation of what you mean (because i have no idea what transuniversal marriage is), i can answer that i don't give a fuck. i do not live vicariously through any virtual characters. i see my avatars as separate characters all-together, just another part of the game. anyone that "falls in love" with fictional characters most likely has issues needing to be worked out. attachment to any characters in a video game to that degree means that the players is taking things much farther than any of the developers anticipated. Edited August 8, 2013 by Phoenix Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm still a bit confused, but I think he's referring to, like, when you replay a game but pair up different characters with other characters, and how you would view that. I dunno, I've considered that to some degree when I play games that have branching paths. I usually just conclude it's like a many-world's kinda thing, where they all happen but only one is being followed presently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I might feel something in a future Fe game with a marriage system, but that's marred by the fact that pretty much all marriageble female characters in Awakening are shallow one-offs. So no, I would feel nothing for cheating on Anime Stereotype #3 in a future incarnation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) anyone that "falls in love" with fictional characters most likely has issues needing to be worked out. attachment to any characters in a video game to that degree means that the players is taking things much farther than any of the developers anticipated. lololololololol Though it's on know your meme so it might not be work safe. "He has also vowed to have and to hold, for better and for worse, even if another, updated version of the game is released." Edited August 8, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I wouldn't even think to feel guilty. In fact, the only reason my avatar ended up married to Lissa was because she was the first female character he reached an S level with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted35362 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 anyone that "falls in love" with fictional characters most likely has issues needing to be worked out. attachment to any characters in a video game to that degree means that the players is taking things much farther than any of the developers anticipated. ...okay, i'm going to ask a serious question here. do you actually think about other people's points of view when you make your posts, or are you consistently this close-minded of a person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 ...okay, i'm going to ask a serious question here. do you actually think about other people's points of view when you make your posts, or are you consistently this close-minded of a person? I feel the need to admit to you that lately (that is, for the last few months), a huge majority of my posts have not been very serious (or at least inconsequential opinions on something). If you're alluding to my posts in those "I'm lonely and my life sucks and I'm depressed," topics--because otherwise I don't understand how you'd get that impression of me--then all I can really say is I've been there too, and the suggestions I always give is what worked for me, so obviously I'll continue to suggest them. If you can remember my posts prior to this summer, then kudos to you (because I can't). Perhaps you can pull something up or PM me or something. I made that post knowing full-well that there are people here that feel they are in love with video game characters (or characters from other works of fiction). I do think it is unhealthy for one to be fixated on works of fiction; should I hide this opinion because it might offend some? I certainly don't think so. They're pixels. Artistic creations with assigned personalities and character growth. They aren't real. It's okay to experience emotions whilst playing a game. When Sarah dies in the Last of Us, it's fucking sad. It is. But should I think that I'm Joel and grieve as if I had lost my own daughter? Should I pretend I'm a lone soldier who can take down the world's elite forces unit FOXHOUND? To feel a real emotional attachment, so much so to say that you "love" a character, strikes me as someone who is not comfortable with their own skin, or the reality in which they live. This is the impression I'd get if I were to meet someone like this in my daily life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Kitty Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I was fairly certain that people didn't actually think they loved a video game character(I named my avatar Jake and married him to Anna because IS hadn't done it yet), so I'm just confused to what the point of the question was. I guess, if you REALLY feel strong... feelings? to your fictional partner, then you'd feel guilty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiophene Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 oh dear Personally, I have trouble feeling attachment even to people who actually exist. As such, I tend to ignore any emotional aspects of games whatsoever. Characterization and plot and whatnot is cool and stuff, but it's all happening to a bunch of bit players, pixels on a screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) I find it a bit difficult to imagine that one could identify with an Avatar and NPCs enough to be an issue. Granted, I never had a married PC outside of Awakening. Marrying your former kids was definitely awkward, though. I did intend to marry Anomen from Baldur's Gate 2 once, but I couldn't bring myself to readjust my team at that point for a various of reasons. That, and he was a cleric/prick multiclass with less then 17 wisdom. Edited August 9, 2013 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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