ZemZem Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 When I was on the bus going home, I was talking to my friend about FE13. I told him about the pairing mechanics and how they had a huge effect on the gameplay, and he laughed, shook his head, and bluntly called it a dating sim. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) shallow minds #notudissyitoagen And before anyone start it, yes FE has always been a bit "Dating Sim"-ish ever since that thing known as support convo exist, so I don't really think FE13 is all that different on this front The context is different, but its still there Edited September 26, 2013 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 It's not even close to a Dating Sim lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiane Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I disagree with that statement, while YES, it has some dating sim ELEMENTS that doesn't make it a full-out dating sim. May as well say that Mass Effect and the Persona series are dating sims with that logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 What do you mean it's not a dating sim? Why the fuck else did I buy this game, then? obv. joke post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom037 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I agree with Vashi, something like harvest moon is waaaaay closer to a dating sim than FE is and probably ever will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteor Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Maybe under a very broad definition. Thanks to the introduction of Avatar, I would say this game comes a lot closer than any of the others in the series, since supports were basically used as a method of providing backstory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 And before anyone start it, yes FE has always been a bit "Dating Sim"-ish ever since that thing known as support convo exist, so I don't really think FE13 is all that different on this front The context is different, but its still there This was what I was kinda thinking. Plus, the whole DLC deal (I'm looking at you, swimsuits.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) The units with their shallow stereotypical and wacky personalities definitely invoke the feeling of a dating sim in me.Especially because of how the female characters are designed, who seem to be modeled to fulfill the obligatory fetishes in these games.The annoying little sister, the reserved moeblob, the academic, the tomboy, the tsundere, the seductress, the loli, etc.And it's not like the mechanic isn't embarrassingly shoehorned in.This game has no vision like FE4 had about the history of families through a war lasting several generations. The mechanic is there for it's own sake and adds nothing but problems with the setting and plot.So yeah, I say calling it a Dating sim is fairly accurate. Edited September 26, 2013 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Some one really needs to record Basilio's "Hell No" for dumb questions like this... Because that's the only answer. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 It's not a dating sim; it's a eugenics sim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Some one really needs to record Basilio's "Hell No" for dumb questions like this... Because that's the only answer. At all. But it wasn't a dumb question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leinex Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Well, this is the most shipperiffic game in the FE series. Robin as a self-insert doesn't help any -*shot* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The units with their shallow Whut? stereotypical Whut? and wacky personalities definitely invoke the feeling of a dating sim in me. Whut? Especially because of how the female characters are designed, who seem to be modeled to fulfill the obligatory fetishes in these games. Whut? The annoying little sister, the reserved moeblob, the academic, the tomboy, the tsundere, the seductress, the loli, etc. So if people have personality, it's bad, and if people don't have personality, it's bad? And it's not like the mechanic isn't embarrassingly shoehorned in. Whut? This game has no vision like FE4 had about the history of families through a war lasting several generations. The mechanic is there for it's own sake Yep. And it gets implemented well, adds to the plot in an interesting way, and leads to another branch of gameplay decisions. and adds nothing but problems with the setting and plot. Whut? So yeah, I say calling it a Dating sim is fairly accurate. Do you even know what a dating sim is? A single optional mechanic involving producing babies is totally unrelated to the idea of a dating sim. Not to mention your random irrelevant tirade against the game is entirely tangential to the conclusion that it's a dating sim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) The fact that during the confessions, the characters suddenly talk to YOU the player and not the avatar when during the rest of the game, you are represented by the avatar, it is clear that IS wanted to drwa in the Dating Sim crowd. So if people have personality, it's bad, and if people don't have personality, it's bad? Those are not personalities. Those are shitty, gimmicky sterotypes meant to substitue actual personalities. Edited September 26, 2013 by Ranger Jack Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1% critted Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Whut? Whut? Whut? Whut? So if people have personality, it's bad, and if people don't have personality, it's bad? Whut? Yep. And it gets implemented well, adds to the plot in an interesting way, and leads to another branch of gameplay decisions. Whut? Do you even know what a dating sim is? A single optional mechanic involving producing babies is totally unrelated to the idea of a dating sim. Not to mention your random irrelevant tirade against the game is entirely tangential to the conclusion that it's a dating sim. BrightBow+FE13. This isn't new. Edited September 26, 2013 by 1% critted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Skittles Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 yeah, mix brightbow and this game and you get... wait what? anyway i don't think this is a dating sim, dating sims are centred around the dating, and usually don't have combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 BrightBow+FE13. This isn't new. Tables should become I_eat_Whut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 But it wasn't a dumb question. Blatant obvious answer of "No" -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) BrightBow+FE13. This isn't new. Eh, true. Still I don't really get why he needs to complain about everything in this game - for example the supports in general are very well written, lots of little bits of detail about histories, personality and the like come out in them especially compared to... well, probably all of the previous FEs. Calling them all stereotypes is just wrong. They have stereotypical elements, but so does, oh, every fictional character ever. Edit: Tables should become I_eat_Whut Whut? Edited September 26, 2013 by Tables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Blatant obvious answer of "No" -_- *shrugs* I think it depends on the fan, since I'm getting 'it's kind of a dating sim' and 'NO fuck you it isn't a dating sim' answers. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I definitely have to disagree that the supports are better than all other FE games. Maybe FE6 but that's it. And the characters are far more sterotypical than any of the previous games. It's like a game filled with Ilyanas. I can forgive the occasional slip up but this goes above and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) fe6 has tons of well written supports Not to mention they does Moe Support Conversation much better than every other games in the series Edited September 26, 2013 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Probably just the awkward english in the patch that ruins it for me then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiane Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I definitely have to disagree that the supports are better than all other FE games. Maybe FE6 but that's it. And the characters are far more sterotypical than any of the previous games. It's like a game filled with Ilyanas. I can forgive the occasional slip up but this goes above and beyond. Honestly, I can see why they chose to go such a route, even if it's not the best route to choose. You've got a cast of 50+, with about 5 of them at the most holding any sort of serious plot importance. The main story is chalk-full of these 4 or 5 characters, leaving the rest practically in the dust. What they tried to go was make them more memorable in the eyes of the player, instead of having them go, "Oh, so these are the important ones? I'll only use them." And the best way to differentiate each individual character is through that method: by giving each character a gimmick and having them revolve around it. It's not a stellar method of characterization if you leave it at that, not at all. But if you embellish on it, it could be done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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