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Things in the Fates meta that look bannable?  

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  1. 1. (tick many) What looks bannable in the Fates meta?

    • Dragon Ward (Hoshido Noble)
    • Life or Death (Master of Arms)
    • Counter (Oni Chieftain)
    • Darting Blow (Sky Knight)
    • Multiple Amaterasu (Kinshi Knight)
    • Wary Fighter (General)
      0
    • Inspiration (Strategist)
      0
    • Aggressor (Dread Fighter)
    • Galeforce (Dark Falcon)
    • Awakening (Great Lord)
    • Dancing Blade (Lodestar)
    • Ban ALL DLC/Amiibo skills.
    • Other (state what)
      0


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[spoiler=see teams here]

Dio's team:

tpz7.pngcq4w.pngplz9.pngsphv.png3wfb.png

vs.

Ice Sage's team:

hrwh.pngsxd5.pnge8dv.pngm4si.pngnsud.png

tpz7.png vs m4si.png

Turn 2.

Ice Sage's Tibarn transforms!

Ice Sage's Shinon (Brave Bow) attacks Ike (Brave Sword)!

8x2 damage 88% hit 10% crit 14% Deadeye

(33 3 89 1)

Shinon activates Deadeye!

Ike receives 8/52 damage!

Ike is fast asleep. Ike's avoid is reduced to 0 and he cannot attack for 5 turns!

(58 27 25 82)

Ike receives 8/52 damage!

Both sides survive the battle.

Stats:

Dio

Ike 36/52 ^ [7]

Oscar 49/49

Makalov 50/50

Astrid 42/42

Giffca 68/68

Ice Sage

Ike 52/52

Oscar 49/49

Tibarn 66/66 (20)

Shinon 20/46

Gatrie 58/58

Dio acts next.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Dio's team:

tpz7.pngcq4w.pngplz9.pngsphv.png3wfb.png

vs.

Ice Sage's team:

hrwh.pngsxd5.pnge8dv.pngm4si.pngnsud.png

3wfb.png vs m4si.png

Turn 3.

Dio's Giffca attacks Ice Sage's Shinon (Brave Bow)!

14 damage 100% hit 0% crit no skill

(60 20 44)

Shinon receives 14/46 damage!

(92 92 50)

Shinon receives 6/46 damage!

Shinon is KO'd!

Stats:

Dio

Ike 36/52 ^ [7]

Oscar 49/49

Makalov 50/50

Astrid 42/42

Giffca 68/68

Ice Sage

Ike 52/52

Oscar 49/49

Tibarn 66/66 (20)

Shinon 0/46

Gatrie 58/58

Ice Sage acts next.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Dio's team:

tpz7.pngcq4w.pngplz9.pngsphv.png3wfb.png

vs.

Ice Sage's team:

hrwh.pngsxd5.pnge8dv.pngm4si.pngnsud.png

sphv.png vs hrwh.png

Turn 4.

Ice Sage's Ike (Brave Sword) attacks Dio's Astrid (Silver Axe)!

16x2 damage 66% hit 0% crit 27% Aether

(75)

(91 42 2)

Ike misses!

(62)

(81 67 15)

Ike misses!

Astrid counterattacks!

17 damage 57% hit 0% crit 26% Sol

(81 77 48 21)

Astrid misses!

Both sides survive the fight.

Stats:

Dio

Ike 36/52 ^ [7]

Oscar 49/49

Makalov 50/50

Astrid 42/42

Giffca 68/68

Ice Sage

Ike 52/52

Oscar 49/49

Tibarn 66/66 (17)

Shinon 0/46

Gatrie 58/58

Dio acts next.

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At least now we have a powerful, but most importantly accurate alternative to brave weapons in the silver forges!

Also, a note about the Laguz gauges: if there's a number in the brackets, the Laguz is naturally transformed and the gauge is gradually depleting. Usually that Laguz is equipped with the Full Guard. If no number is displayed, the Laguz Band/Demi-Band is equipped and there is no gauge (if unequipped, it is reduced to 0, but nobody should be doing this). I accidentally got Giffca's equipment wrong - he started the battle with the Laguz Band.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Dio's team:

tpz7.pngcq4w.pngplz9.pngsphv.png3wfb.png

vs.

Ice Sage's team:

hrwh.pngsxd5.pnge8dv.pngm4si.pngnsud.png

3wfb.png vs sxd5.png

Turn 5.

Dio's Giffca attacks Ice Sage's Oscar (Brave Lance)!

27 damage 85% hit 0% crit no skill

(56 18 95)

Oscar receives 27/49 damage!

Oscar counterattacks!

5x2 damage 58% hit 0% crit 26% Sol

(73 20 63 21)

Oscar activates Sol!

Giffca takes 5/68 damage!

Oscar recovers 5/49 HP!

(94 79 69 6)

Oscar misses!

Giffca attacks again!

(80 36 78)

Oscar receives 27/49 damage!

Oscar is KO'd!

Stats:

Dio

Ike 36/52 ^ [7]

Oscar 49/49

Makalov 50/50

Astrid 42/42

Giffca 63/68

Ice Sage

Ike 52/52

Oscar 0/49

Tibarn 66/66 (17)

Shinon 0/46

Gatrie 58/58

Ice Sage acts next.

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Cleanly 2HKO'd considering Oscar's recovery off the Sol proc!

So here we find that being doubled by Giffca and not having a Laguzguard is dangerous. With a Laguzguard, Oscar would've survived with 28 HP, which is enough to survive another round against Giffca (the halved damage rounds down).

Once I introduce Fixed Mode averages though, Oscar is doubled by Giffca no more (and has +1 str).

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sounds like you should have 26+ speed!

(hell yeah Nephenee)

More than 26 is only needed to ensure not being doubled by SMs, the latter being cockblocked and destroyed by Brave Lance armours/Makalov (so far only in theory as we're only in our third game, but it's sound enough), but 26 is a must to not be completely destroyed by Giffca (though a Laguzguard turns defending against him into more or less acceptable).

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Dio's team:

tpz7.pngcq4w.pngplz9.pngsphv.png3wfb.png

vs.

Ice Sage's team:

hrwh.pngsxd5.pnge8dv.pngm4si.pngnsud.png

tpz7.png vs hrwh.png

Turn 6.

Ice Sage's Ike (Brave Sword) attacks Dio's Ike (-)!

12x2 damage 100% hit 0% crit 27% Aether

(1)

Ice Sage's Ike activates Aether!

Ice Sage's Ike activates Sol!

(16 48 29)

Dio's Ike receives 12/52 damage!

Ice Sage's Ike recovers 0/52 HP!

Ice Sage's Ike activates Luna!

(91 38 30)

Dio's Ike receives 24/52 damage!

Dio's Ike is KO'd!

Stats:

Dio

Ike 0/52

Oscar 49/49

Makalov 50/50

Astrid 42/42

Giffca 63/68

Ice Sage

Ike 52/52

Oscar 0/49

Tibarn 66/66 (14)

Shinon 0/46

Gatrie 58/58

Dio acts next.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Dio's team:

tpz7.pngcq4w.pngplz9.pngsphv.png3wfb.png

vs.

Ice Sage's team:

hrwh.pngsxd5.pnge8dv.pngm4si.pngnsud.png

cq4w.png vs nsud.png

Turn 7.

Dio's Oscar (Wishblade) attacks Ice Sage's Gatrie (Wishblade)!

8 damage 100% hit 6% crit 26% Sol

(90 36 1 15)

Oscar activates Sol!

Critical hit!

Gatrie receives 24/58 damage!

Oscar recovers 0/49 HP!

Gatrie counterattacks!

22 damage 77% hit 1% crit 25% Luna

(52 30 6 17)

Gatrie activates Luna!

Oscar receives 34/49 damage!

Oscar attacks again!

(10 59 60 2)

Oscar activates Sol!

Gatrie receives 8/58 damage!

Oscar recovers 8/49 HP!

Both sides survive the battle.

Stats:

Dio

Ike 0/52

Oscar 23/49

Makalov 50/50

Astrid 42/42

Giffca 63/68

Ice Sage

Ike 52/52

Oscar 0/49

Tibarn 66/66 (14)

Shinon 0/46

Gatrie 26/58

Ice Sage acts next.

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