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Things in the Fates meta that look bannable?  

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  1. 1. (tick many) What looks bannable in the Fates meta?

    • Dragon Ward (Hoshido Noble)
    • Life or Death (Master of Arms)
    • Counter (Oni Chieftain)
    • Darting Blow (Sky Knight)
    • Multiple Amaterasu (Kinshi Knight)
    • Wary Fighter (General)
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    • Inspiration (Strategist)
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    • Aggressor (Dread Fighter)
    • Galeforce (Dark Falcon)
    • Awakening (Great Lord)
    • Dancing Blade (Lodestar)
    • Ban ALL DLC/Amiibo skills.
    • Other (state what)
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Ghahahaha! Vanessa is so OP!

More like "if you equip a weak effective weapon to attack something, your counter won't do much". But yeah, Vanessa can't be doubled even weighed down by Vidofnir and her defence becomes pretty strong. She hasn't proc'd Pierce yet, too!

Vanessa only has 20 str though so she won't fight the bulkier folks like Generals and promoted Cavs very well.

I just realised I'd forgotten to count Vidofnir's defence boost up to now - good thing Vanessa has been dodging everything. Edited turn 2 and 3 to include proper dmg vs. Vanessa.

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Vanessa:

-26 def with full def support and Vidofnir.

-106 avoid with full avoid support and lightweight weapon.

-Bad offense? She still have pierce, effective weapons vs armored, horseback and wyvern.

-Good res.

Edited by Nicolas
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[spoiler=see teams here]

SB's team

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Warrior!Garcia, General!Amelia, Ranger!Neimi, Paladin!Franz, Paladin!Seth

vs.

Nicolas's team!

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Wyvern Knight!Vanessa, Sage!Moulder, Mage Knight!Lute, Great Knight!Kyle, Assassin!Colm

Turn 5.

q3wv.pngvs vk4m.png

SB's Amelia (Brave Lance) attacks Nicolas's Vanessa (Vidofnir)!

10x2 dmg 57% hit 0% crit

(22 82 54)

Vanessa receives 10/39 damage!

(30 29 79)

Vanessa receives 10/39 damage!

Vanessa counterattacks!

15 dmg 64% hit 0% crit 20% Pierce

(36 61 60 39)

(99)

Amelia receives 15/49 damage!

Vanessa attacks again!

(85 30 6 6)

Vanessa activates Pierce!

(21)

Amelia receives 34/49 damage!

Amelia is KO'd!

Stats:

SB

Garcia 0/59

Amelia 0/49

Neimi 12/40

Franz 52/52

Seth 47/47

Nicolas

Vanessa 19/39

Moulder 49/49

Lute 8/37

Kyle 59/59

Colm 49/49

Nicolas acts next!

Edited by Espinosa
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Vanessa dodged the second one.

EDIT: Nvm color confusion

Oh whoopsy dicks. Fixed da colours. Don't recall myself having daltonism either.

Vanessa:

-26 def with full def support and Vidofnir.

-106 avoid with full avoid support and lightweight weapon.

-Bad offense? She still have pierce, effective weapons vs armored, horseback and wyvern.

-Good res.

- Supports can be killed (Lute going down in a round of combat pretty easily)

- No +hit supports makes facing evasive units with avo supports difficult

- Pierce is still luck-reliant and when you're hitting things with a semblance of defence, 20 str will prove to be too low

- I dunno which tome users are even viable for this to matter. I only like Moulder and Druid Ewan right now, but time may change my views

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[spoiler=see teams here]

SB's team

7ybr.pngq3wv.pngxxj1.pngbsit.pngdfpa.png

Warrior!Garcia, General!Amelia, Ranger!Neimi, Paladin!Franz, Paladin!Seth

vs.

Nicolas's team!

vk4m.png5ry8.pngjng2.png4lhr.pngawhb.png

Wyvern Knight!Vanessa, Sage!Moulder, Mage Knight!Lute, Great Knight!Kyle, Assassin!Colm

Turn 6.

xxj1.png vs 5ry8.png

Nicolas's Moulder (Ivaldi) attacks SB's Neimi (Zanbato)!

23 dmg 77% hit 0% crit

(36 62 70)

Neimi receives 12/40 damage!

Neimi is KO'd!

Stats:

SB

Garcia 0/59

Amelia 0/49

Neimi 0/40

Franz 52/52

Seth 47/47

Nicolas

Vanessa 19/39

Moulder 49/49

Lute 8/37

Kyle 59/59

Colm 49/49

SB acts next!

Edited by Espinosa
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tana x eirika seems like a great pair, and they can support triangle with ephraim (who admittedly isn't very good). all supports give full atk, accuracy, and crit for whatever that's worth.

Reginleif sounds like a pretty hot toy as long as people on horses and in armour are around.

What about Cormag? He supports Tana for +atk/+hit, and you do get two Fili Shields for both of them.

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WK!Cormag looks really good what with having the same AS as the girls (with Vidofnir) but slightly more Str and significantly more durability. I might try him in another team.

Quick question, what classes is Swordslayer effective against besides Merc and Myrm lines? Or is that it?

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Fili Shields prevent wind and arrow effective damage but not damage from dragonslaying weapons, right? Because that's the Achilles' heel right there.

I'm not suer that even prevent wind sword. IIRC not.

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Dio and JSND you guys can send me fe5 teams if you like and i can host it on saturday
marshmallow you can send me your fe8 team if you're interested in playing against randa on saturday as well

for all those teams it would be great if you could get them in asap so i can do some preparation beforehand so the games can run quickly. that preparation would have to be done tonight because i have no free time tomorrow, so if any of you are online now i'd really like to get those teams within the next 2 hours.

i can look into hosting a trs game if need be, but espinosa would definitely be a better choice for that because i know he has much more experience with the game

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Turn 9

[spoiler=Teams and Rules]

Espinosa's team

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VS

ZeeEmm's team

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Ruleset:

- Maximum Stats meta, no boosters, no custom skills

- Shade active until 2 members have fallen, Provoke always active

- GBA-style counter

- NOJ Effectiveness (3x)

The Transformation Gauge belonging to Espinosa's Ena has decreased by 3. Ena's Gauge is at 14/20.

tpz7.png vs. vow8.png

Espinosa's Ike (Brave Sword) attacks ZeeEmm's Haar (Killer Axe)!

Aether (38)

6 dmg 91% hit 0% crit 27% Skill

(99 61 7 29)

Haar receives 6 damage!

Espinosa's Ike (Brave Sword) attacks ZeeEmm's Haar (Killer Axe) a second time!

Aether ( 70)

6 dmg 91% hit 0% crit 27% Skill

(91 7 28 29)

Haar receives 6 damage!

ZeeEmm's Boyd (Killer Axe) counters Espinosa's Ike (Brave Sword)!

16 dmg 43% hit 4% crit 14% Skill

(31 11 3 65)

Haar scores a crit! Ike receives 48 damage.

--Result--

Current HP (Espinosa's Team)

Ike: 12/60

Boyd: 46/60

Brom: 55/60

Nephenee: 0/59

Ena: 72/72

Current HP (ZeeEmm's Team)

Makalov: 0/60

Astrid: 56/56

Jill: 60/60

Haar: 40/60

Lethe: 31/68

Turn 9 Ends. ZeeEmm performs next.

Edited by Elieson
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