Rehab Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 art of manliness can sometimes come off as kind of kitschy to me, but it had a nice couple of photo-supplemented articles on the subject of how men and boys (in the U.S. in particular, maybe) were quite possibly a lot more physically affectionate with each other, and openly, back at the turn of the 1900's than they were in the middle of it and now. I don't think that necessarily translates in turn to "they were more accepting of homosexuality," at least partially because the site claims they widely thought of/referred to that as "the crime that dares not speak its name," and as being something you "did," not something you "were," (which remind me of some homophobic catchphrases I've heard- "people can choose to stop being gay," "committing a crime against nature," etc.), but I have to admit, the first time I looked at a lot of these pictures for myself, I went "No fucking way. Not one of them gay, far as anybody knows?" [spoiler=basically] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 I've never looked at those old black-and-white pictures of men being friendly with each other and thought of them as gay-- although that's probably because I knew that homosexuality wasn't something that was really touched upon in those times. But if I weren't educated about that... well, yeah, I'd say that those pictures were pretty "gay". Honestly, I wish that people wouldn't be so... stiff towards one another when it comes to embracing in a non-romantic sorta way. Men especially. It annoys me to no end when people are so hesitant to express themselves because of some stupid stigma about looking "gay". If anything, being able to openly and unabashedly embrace someone else or express your appreciation or love for them is something very beautiful, and should never be mocked for looking a little homoerotic or whatever. Also, that's a rad-ass bird, yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Yeah, I meant to say more somewhere in there about how my first reaction gave way pretty quickly to "thank god my first reaction is/was total bullshit" (and also some more about how the pictures made me feel better about wanting to be more openly affectionate in friendships/general, looking at so-perceived masculinity hangups as things that may eventually be solved, etc) Edited December 24, 2013 by Rehab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Thank you for sharing. They make me feel better, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I've never looked at those old black-and-white pictures of men being friendly with each other and thought of them as gay-- although that's probably because I knew that homosexuality wasn't something that was really touched upon in those times. But if I weren't educated about that... well, yeah, I'd say that those pictures were pretty "gay". Honestly, I wish that people wouldn't be so... stiff towards one another when it comes to embracing in a non-romantic sorta way. Men especially. It annoys me to no end when people are so hesitant to express themselves because of some stupid stigma about looking "gay". If anything, being able to openly and unabashedly embrace someone else or express your appreciation or love for them is something very beautiful, and should never be mocked for looking a little homoerotic or whatever. Also, that's a rad-ass bird, yo. wise beyond your years lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendor Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I've never looked at those old black-and-white pictures of men being friendly with each other and thought of them as gay-- although that's probably because I knew that homosexuality wasn't something that was really touched upon in those times. But if I weren't educated about that... well, yeah, I'd say that those pictures were pretty "gay". Honestly, I wish that people wouldn't be so... stiff towards one another when it comes to embracing in a non-romantic sorta way. Men especially. It annoys me to no end when people are so hesitant to express themselves because of some stupid stigma about looking "gay". If anything, being able to openly and unabashedly embrace someone else or express your appreciation or love for them is something very beautiful, and should never be mocked for looking a little homoerotic or whatever. Also, that's a rad-ass bird, yo. Interesting topic for a paper *makes a note of this for the future* Also Inui you a gay ass nigga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted35362 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Interesting topic for a paper *makes a note of this for the future* Also Inui you a gay ass nigga brendor stfu i bet you kiss girls faggot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) so... stiff unyu~ Edited December 24, 2013 by Aleph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) wise beyond your years lol Thank you! Interesting topic for a paper *makes a note of this for the future* Also Inui you a gay ass nigga hey now be nice brendor stfu i bet you kiss girls faggot you too boney unyu~ uwah~! Edited December 24, 2013 by Esme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted35362 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 you too boney n-no!! i've never kissed anyone!! Q_Q *runs off* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 hue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted35362 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 esme why do you always laugh at my PAIN ;~; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 because it's funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendor Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 brendor stfu i bet you kiss girls faggot Ewwwwww!!!! No way!! That's just disgusting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 Brendor, incorrect! Girl lips are quite nice, but MAN LIPS are much better. Sigh... you have so much to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendor Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'm just a novice :< I tried asking a guy out recently. He said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 It's ok, we were all novices at one point. Even the experts learn things often! And don't let that answer get you down, you'll find that qtpa2t3.14 dude some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 "qtpa2t3.14" Typing as ghost, suicide complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peener weener Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 merry christmas you scrooge mcfuck, and a happy purgatory joyride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 not christmas in new york and rest of the country/world doesnt exist so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peener weener Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 my sis is going to work as an intern on fashion week in new york Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 oh my god get her like a gun or something we have some real bastards here in the city like the hipster fucks that go to new york uni they can go die. they'll come up to her and offer her tofu and shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peener weener Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) I think shes staying in brooklyn My sis is like hardcore hipster minus the tryhard. Like she does the weirdest shit just cause she heard about it and she likes to try things out. Apparently her friend told her about a African percussion class and now shes taking it lmao Edited December 25, 2013 by Stolypin Necktie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) I think shes staying in brooklyn My sis is like hardcore hipster minus the tryhard. Like she does the weirdest shit just cause she heard about it and she likes to try things out. Apparently her friend told her about a African percussion class and now shes taking it lmao African percussion classes are all the rage AFAIK, but I took Indonesian Ensemble music (Gamelan) while I was in college. :/ EDIT-I dunno why I :/ 'd because I actually liked it the first year I did it. Edited December 25, 2013 by SeverIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendor Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 And don't let that answer get you down, you'll find that qtpa2t3.14 dude some day. Forever Alone And New York's not so bad just don't make eye contact with anyone and don't take any fliers from anyone Even if a gun *could* help you, NYC has the strictest gun laws and channels to go through to get a permit despite it being the city with the most gun violence and crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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