j00 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Mainly I think assuming Raymond is town just because else he would've added a buddy into his group N1 isn't enough of a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Per neighbor topic, because he had no idea how else to use his role, and so that Elieson could pass on messages at night. However, this doesn't change the fact that using such an ability on N1 on your own buddy makes no sense IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He's implicated both Vhaltz and Manix early on when there really wasn't much of a chance that they'd get lynched, and his later interactions with them has been either disinterest or outright defending Elieson. In hindsight, I'd say he looks the worst among the rest of us still alive. And I really really wanted to try my role, I don't see why had to rush that vote on Elie when he was a lot more reluctant earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I know what it's like to have a role that never works. I'm not particularly convinced that Scarlet is scum, but meh. It's not like there's a burst of activity ATM. (that D4 ticks me off for other reasons, mainly lack of associative reads) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I still don't think it's illogical enough to ignore him, had Vhaltz got lynched without anyone else in the group he'd gain town cred just because of the fact that it'd be a pointless second mafia chat still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If you don't look at his neighboring actions, what do you think of his posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I have no idea how BP Miller Vigilante works,That sounded like a joke to me? We already have a flipped miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 After doing some re-reading, I see exactly one interesting interaction between Scarlet/Vhaltz here. That post gives me a bit more bussing vibes than the early BBM/Manix scuffle. Otherwise, the sense I got from his posts was that he was answering stuff, and some of his answers were ignored anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Oh, in regards to those vibes: I see buzzwords, and those things bother me to no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Uh, so is eclipse's role a nerfed roleblocker? because what would be contradictory with SB being a roleblocker too then? and do you mean to say your target was Refa too? I'm confused here Wasn't SB a Delayed Enforcer? I don't see how they contradict each other. Elieson being a Roleblocker of sorts makes it more likely eclipse is town (admittedly she could be fakeclaiming it but like...yeah no actually with the SB CC that'd just be really stupid). Because of that logic, I'm not interested in lynching either of them. That leaves Refa/j00. I have no idea how BP Miller Vigilante works, despite the fact that Refa seems to be the one in charge of announcements, and j00 is now a self-admitted vanilla. I really, REALLY wish we could NL today, but alas, that option was yanked from us on D1. ;/ Can't you vote NL? That sounded like a joke to me? We already have a flipped miller. Yeah, I was poking fun at all of my SK spec with the hilariously bad fakeclaim for an SK. My role is announcer. You might think that there is something else to it...But in fact it is just an ordinary announcer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Rules say we can't vote for NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 My role turns off in *YLO, so yeah. I'll put my anonyvote on Raymond but tbh I don't really see the point? j00 also made a good point wrt Raymond calling Vhaltz suspicious and then targeting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 j00 also made a good point wrt Raymond calling Vhaltz suspicious and then targeting him. Yes, I targeted Vhaltz despite being unsure about his alignment, simply because the ability to pass on messages at night seemed more interesting than anything else I could've thought of doing with my role. I was willing to take the risk. @PRIMS: Requesting votals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Day 5.1 Votals Scarlet (1): ???????? Refa (1): Scarlet Refa: BigBangMeteor, eclipse, j00, Refa You have 48 hours left in the day. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to hammer. E: that should say "not voting" and not "refa" but the mistake is funny so I'm keeping it Edited April 21, 2014 by Prims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 CURSE YOU PRIMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Also I looked things over and I'm PRETTY SURE Scarlet is scum at this point (I'd show the ISO but honestly it's things that either I or other people have already said so it'd just be a waste of my time and really that's the important thing here), so if noone has anything else to say that's where I'll be dropping my vote on in a few hours GET HYPE. And I just want to say that if I am right, I totally guessed 2/3 of the scumteam on D2 (the last guess was Strege shut up), amazing player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 ehhhh, does anyone feel like discussing anyone else? eclipse never gave a clear answer on who she targeted, SB or Refa I guess? If Raymond's not scum then my next would be Refa because SK rolespec I guess but I don't find Raymond's case on him that convincing. Like the Strege and item and scum spec thing was also something I questioned but it fits a "write post while reading" mindset and not something I find worth pushing post above is also top stellar lazy scum hunting but who cares at this point also we all had shit reads D3 except Raymond who after the Strege lynch realizes that Strege never had very concrete content does anyone want to discuss your reads on anybody or should we just hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Man, why didn't I think of this earlier? http://askhelixfossil.com/#gmzoub Dammit Lord Helix. http://askhelixfossil.com/#ccuax0 Well, our Lord and savior hasn't led me astray yet! ##Vote: Scarlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Refa are you crumbling oracle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 No, also don't hammer just yet. Actual post in a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 the fact that I managed to outspam everyone in a game with BBM, Manix and SB should porbably say something about this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 ehhhh, does anyone feel like discussing anyone else? eclipse never gave a clear answer on who she targeted, SB or Refa I guess? post above is also top stellar lazy scum hunting but who cares at this point does anyone want to discuss your reads on anybody or should we just hammer eclipse couldn't have targeted me, because then my announcement would've gotten blocked instead of delayed. If she targeted SB, my announcement would've been posted yesterday instead of today. Wait...I want to know what you think of eclipse WRT her role before you hammer. Here's what's on my mind. You know how Conqueror had that item that made him basically invincible during the night phase and he had no more night actions (he specifically said the item he got from Paperblade was a 1-Shot track and there was nothing else)? Well, the only way I figure he could've died is 1) getting roleblocked or 2) Strongman killed. Maybe I'm being overly suspicious since a Scum!Strongman makes way more sense than a Scum!Roleblock (considering Elie's role) at this point, especially considering that CC...Unexpected Question- Does Prims give fakeclaims to scum, because I don't think I've ever been scum in a Prims game. It would explain eclipse being confident enough to CC, but if that's not the case then I definitely think I'm over analyzing things here. Honestly, I agree. Pretty sure I haven't legit made a case or scumhunted since Day 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j00 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Huh, good point eclipse, who did you target? about fakeclaims, usually mods will provide some if asked but I'm not sure what prims usually does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Actually to prove myself wrong (wonderful), considering SB is an empowerer (even if he is a delayed one) it does make sense that even if eclipse blocked me, my action would still go through regardless on a future day (pretty sure noone else claimed roleblocked on that day)? I think, am I just being high? Also don't see why scum!eclipse would target me, so that's a point in her favor. Just hammer whenever you get a response from her or whenever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I PUT MY FAITH IN YOU LORD HELIX (also not a crumb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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