Icon of Sin Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 A Speed Boost or two before Sharpedo transforms should be lethal and somewhat easy to get via Protect. Camerupt would seem pretty deadly in Doubles or under a Trick Room team. Not sure what to say about Gallade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Mega Camerupt is probably always going to run special sets, since Earth Power and Flamethrower/Fire Blast will be boosted further by Sheer Force. It's not like it has Flare Blitz or anything, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 A mixed Trick Room user would be very fun. With a 4x weakness to one of the most common types in the game, which also happens to get priority, why not go full offense if you don't need speed. Too bad it doesn't get much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Fire/Ground with Rock coverage is one of the best offensive type combinations in the game. Only Flygon resists it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 A Speed Boost or two before Sharpedo transforms should be lethal and somewhat easy to get via Protect. That's exactly what I had in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Fire/Ground with Rock coverage is one of the best offensive type combinations in the game. Only Flygon resists it I think. Shame it doesn't get Ancientpower iirc god Rock is such a shit offensive typing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Camerupt gets Ancientpower as an egg move, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Shame it doesn't get Ancientpower iirc god Rock is such a shit offensive typing If Rock is shit for being strong against 4, weak against 3 and absolutely nothing immune to it, I wonder what you think about the rest of the types. Special Rock moves aren't very good when the best move is Power Gem but you imply that staples like Stone Edge, Rock Slide, Rock Blast and Stealth Rock aren't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDRHAWK Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I dunno it has, like, three good moves (Stealth Rock is a support move). Yeah, Stone Edge is cool and Rock Slide kicks ass in doubles, but myehhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmachi Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 tbh as a somewhat /regular/ player of UU I can't really see what kind of niche is Camerupt going to be able to fill to warrant a rise from NU to UU. UU is home to the local titan of special walling, Blissey, which Camerupt isn't going to be able to kill anytime soon without a physical set, which takes away from the whole appeal of Sheer Force. If it's making UU, it's going to be shit-UU at best imo. Camerupt suffers from a bad typing that doesn't really offer much (Water and Ground are two of the most exploitable weaknesses in the game). It's a terror under Trick Room, yes, but so are many other Pokemon (Aggron, Reuniclus, Cofagrigus, to name a few). TR is a hard playstyle to consistently pull off anyway in UU, with stuff like Haxorus (srsly how is this legal, LO Haxorus 2HKOes nearly everything), Infernape and Lucario running around... Sharpedo, on the other hand, has always been pretty deadly as a late-game sweeper, though that's partially due to Speed Boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) If Rock is shit for being strong against 4, weak against 3 and absolutely nothing immune to it, I wonder what you think about the rest of the types. Special Rock moves aren't very good when the best move is Power Gem but you imply that staples like Stone Edge, Rock Slide, Rock Blast and Stealth Rock aren't worth it. I kinda have the same problem with Rock that Poly does - Stealth Rock is amazing and all, but it has like next to no good attack moves. I'm like "When the hell is Rock gonna get a good attack move that isn't also inaccurate or exclusive to one Pokémon?!". Edited September 11, 2014 by Levant Caprice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) I dunno it has, like, three good moves (Stealth Rock is a support move). Yeah, Stone Edge is cool and Rock Slide kicks ass in doubles, but myehhh. Stone Edge and Rock Slide happen to be extremely easy to access thanks to TMs and Stealth Rock is a tutor move when it's around. What Rock doesn't have in diversity, it does make up in effectiveness on the field considering those moves are used fairly often depending on the metagame. Stone Edge may be inaccurate but that doesn't stop Focus Blast from being common because of its TM status. Edited September 11, 2014 by Woodshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Since Mega Gallade's Attack and Speed gain notable boosts, there's a lot of hope for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 [spoiler=New PU team] Rapidash @ Choice BandAbility: Flash FireEVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpeJolly Nature- Drill Run- Flare Blitz- Wild Charge- Megahorn Marowak @ Thick ClubAbility: Rock HeadEVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpeAdamant Nature- Double-Edge- Stealth Rock- Bonemerang- Knock Off Luxray @ Choice ScarfAbility: GutsEVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpeAdamant Nature- Volt Switch- Wild Charge- Ice Fang- Superpower Butterfree @ Focus SashAbility: Compound EyesEVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpeModest Nature- Sleep Powder- Bug Buzz- Giga Drain- Quiver Dance Drifblim @ Sitrus BerryAbility: UnburdenEVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpeModest Nature- Shadow Ball- Thunderbolt- Destiny Bond- Calm Mind Swanna @ Damp RockAbility: HydrationEVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpeTimid Nature- Hurricane- Scald- Rain Dance- Ice Beam Luxray, Rapidash, and Butterfree surprisingly work rather well with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Is PU just another name for NU or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Is PU just another name for NU or something?it's a new, lower tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 it's a new, lower tier Even lower than NU?? Wow. Never thought I'd see the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What's a good moveset/build for Trevenant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What's a good moveset/build for Trevenant? Hmmm... Sitrus Berry Harvest Horn Leech Leech Seed Sub Curse (Curse can be substituted for WoW, Protect or Phantom Force) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What nature? Impish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 What nature? Impish? Careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 baton pass fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Some PU replays: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pu-165467936 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pu-165470861 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pu-165472377 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 keldeo is amazing http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-165848004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Gotta break my no-posting thing for one thing I need help on a Tyranitar build, I'd like it to be sort of a mixed offensive/defensive kind of thing, what nature, EV spread, and moves should I do for that? I have access to the egg moves stealth rock, pursuit, dragon dance, and outrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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