Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 :( I still need to watch your FE12 but you're tied with horace in this regard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Sage Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Awesome run Horace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 do you think erk can replace canas as 28 mag staffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irysa Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Eh, Canas is doing a lot more than just staffing though. Luna is pretty clutch here and there in this run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jKBRa285B8&feature=youtu.be PENULTIMATE POST WHERE I TALK ABOUT UNITS Hector - He's pretty solid early on, and it's nice having a lord that doesn't die after he's dropped near a gate or something. 5 move hurts though. Eliwood - There's a ton of early exp to go around, and it's largely wasted on Marcus, so why not give it to someone who gets a horse later and is forced? Seriously he probably saved a turn in endgame, and it was nice having another high res mount in Cog. Marcus - Obviously super awesome early, and still made it to endgame. Didn't actually do a whole lot after Heath took off though. Lowen - owned early then promoted kind of early and got very little exp for the rest of the game and faded into obscurity. Kent - I think he's definately better as the earlypromoted paladin in Lyn mode. His hitrates in the midgames are a lot better than Sain. He hilariously didn't hit S Lances until 28x though, lol. Sain - other than chapter 17, I don't think he actually did anything other than soak up exp. Florina - didn't do as much as I thought she would, but she made a 1 turn of chapter 21 and the 2 turn of Genesis a reality. Priscilla - thought she was just going to exist and take up exp all the way till endgame, but she saved a turn in 32! Canas - A fantastic unit. Luna owns in Cog, has a highish base level so getting him to be an awesome warper isn't too hard. Fiora - broke the game but really I think her only actual contributions came in 19x, the desert, chapter 25, and Cog. Legault - had a barrier staff and guiding ring that were actually pretty nescessary. Rath - Did some cool things like killing Lloyd in one turn, and his unique class movement really helped in Chapter 25 and Chapter 27. Didn't have the stats to keep up though. Isadora - Made the 2 turn of Chapter 25 possible Heath - pretty sure everyone knows how much work he did, absolutley needs to be a god unit in these runs. Pent - I actually think he's replaceable by Erk. Vaida - killed the dudes that spawned near her and had enough strength to OHKO Ursula in Final. That's about it. I don't think Erk can replace Canas combatwise since Luna was ridiculously powerful in Cog, and if Erk got dropped where Canas did, he'd be dealing out very little damage regardless of stats. He can definately still be a lategame warper instead of Pent if you want though, but really, is it worth the effort? Canas had the most kills, outkilling units like Marcus, Kent and Heath, I definately don't think Erk could replicate that. Edited September 12, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Just from watching your videos, I don't think Erk can replace Pent. He'd take far too much early EXP that was going to Eliwood and Lowen, and it'd be a total PITA training him along with Canas/Priscilla. and if i were giving +2's to units I don't know why i'd make it so painfully obvious. Feel free to check elsewhere, its not like the odd growths there affected the outcome, Fiora never entered battle after then anyway. I don't think you rigged it, it's just weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I think he could use the exp that sain used to catch up, and then take Pent's exp later, which was mostly promoted units. Heath probably got a bit too much too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Excellent job Horace! This was greatly performed as usual. I agree that Erk wouldn't be as useful as Canas or Pent, but if Sain wasn't being used, who else would be a good contender for the experience he got? Fiora is evidently an enigma beyond our comprehension. Use Nino as your warp user next run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 nino does have the highest range in the game honestly I don't know who else would actually be useful with the exp, its probably better just spread among everyone else on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Exactly! Just imagine all the turns that Nino would save with that one extra warp range! So much potential! I know Farina wasn't recruited due to costing turns, but would she have been a good unit to give exp to due to being a flyer? Heath would still probably be a better recipient I assume, but I'm just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 she also costs money which Horace proved is ever-so-neecesary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I don't think having Farina around would actually help any chapter honestly. Heath is definately better since he can rescue Hector (Farina can't) and has much better caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Why did you even do 32x? I don't remember you saying you were going to access all chapters (19xx aside) *Edit Eliwood and Pent gained decent levels but i'm just wondering if those stats were crucial to your completion **Editedit Oh yea hammerne on Warp Edited September 12, 2014 by Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I thought I said I was going to, otherwise I wouldn't have tried as hard in Chapter 23 to fulfill the requirements for Genesis. I can't find anywhere in the topic where I said so though :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Taking another look, you only used warp twice in Final (and could arguably get away with only 1, since Nils could've just Filla's Might'd Canas instead of dancing Athos (or a billion other things *chortle*. Statwise, Eliwood doesn't need the extra Str/Spd to orko the warriors either. Pent's magic is good enough too. So yea 32x is largely unnecessary, on this run. How fast do you think you could complete the game by simply bypassing Gaidens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 i only did it for completions sake if i bypassed gaidens the game could be done in 179-however many turns the gaidens took, probably, although you miss the berserk staff, a speedwing, early merlinus, Canas, and actually it might add a few turns here and there with less exp and not having Canas. Nils had to dance Heath on both turns, dunno where you got him dancing athos from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You might not have to give up everything. You could maybe skip Battle Preperations by just loading up on extra door keys and stuff earlier on. My bigger concern in 13x is the additional exp from his chapter, rather than Merlinus himself. Lowen sure appreciates it, among others. between 31x and 32x that's 6 turns? Final-2 i meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 oh i just wanted to give marcus the kill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 yea, Marcus saving the world Worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nice run, Horace. It was definitely an entertaining watch. now if only dondon were to finish his run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 This run was amazing! Just watching it has made me better at FE7. Going to agree with Mekkah, good job making Eliwood useful and kick lots of ass. Of course Heath would turn out awesome like always. Sooo... Heath, Marcus, and Canas for MVP award? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 With your videos taken down, are you planning to rerun this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Not for a long time probably. Chances are i'll do FE8 before FE7 regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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