Blaze The Great Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Shon is a lot like Eliwood. He sucks, but he's a Lord. Use him enough to promote, but unless you want to jack him full of stat boosters, he'll be pretty bad. You should use Siegfried a little bit, because like jet said above, he has great growths. Unfortunately [spoiler=MAJOR SPOILERS] He dies near the end of the game Edited July 8, 2015 by Blaze The Great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momogeek2141 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Shon is a lot like Eliwood. He sucks, but he's a Lord. Use him enough to promote, but unless you want to jack him full of stat boosters, he'll be pretty bad. You should use Siegfried a little bit, because like jet said above, he has great growths. Unfortunately [spoiler=MAJOR SPOILERS] He dies near the end of the game [spoiler=MORE SPOILERS] Isn't there little point in using Shon too since he can't be used during the hardest chapters of the game? Also, yeah, like jet said, Shon tries to be Sigurd but ends up like Alec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoniker Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Good luck with TLP! There are other LPs for you to refer to if you need them, remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Wolf Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Just so you know, you missed out on [spoiler=Not sure if this should be spoilered?]Prologue Part 2. It's accessed by not having Siegfried attack/be attacked in the prologue. Edited July 8, 2015 by Aura Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Great Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 [spoiler=MORE SPOILERS] Isn't there little point in using Shon too since he can't be used during the hardest chapters of the game? That's a good point. I almost forgot about that, I was thinking about shons siqequest. Just so you know, you missed out on [spoiler=Not sure if this should be spoilered?]Prologue Part 2. It's accessed by not having Siegfried attack/be attacked in the prologue. And forgot about that too. Oh well, it's a blind run, and not THAT important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverHairedFreak25 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Shon isn't a pacifist, yet he ends up being more of a puss than Eliwood. How does THAT work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Eh I feel that was a bad shot on Blazer's end by making Shon unavailable when we'd expect to use him the most. I get what Blazer wanted to do, but I don't agree with it. And no you should use Shon since he's your main lord throughout the game. His inability to show up in the last chapter is whatever, he wouldnt have much use anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside-DownFish Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I remember having troubles playing Immortal Sword. Did you download as well as install the frameworks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) [spoiler=Chapter 1]The rest of the prologue:Siegfried wants to go to Anura without his son. Instead he shall occupy Corben. Shonisnn't delighted about his decision at all.Siegfried has entered Anura. It seems to be peaceful here.The Anuras are blind and naive.Shon has followed his father against his will.He also brought Corben.So much for peace here!The obligatory bandits chapter. Surprisingly it's not the first one in this hack....CorbenCorben is a level 1 cavalier, who's better than Shon in pretty much each stat except for speed. He even has as much defense as Siegfried. More tankier version than Shon. His sword level kinda sucks, so he mainly will use lances.MapI had to cut out a tile in the east. It doesn't matter, because there aren't any enemies or other important things there.Chapter 1 is basically a typical prologue chapter: You fight a few banditswith pathetic stats, who have iron, steel and hand axes:I'm pretty sure these weapons have exact the same stats like in the GBA games.The boss isn't too frightening, except that he has a defense stat.This chapter is declared as a seize chapter, but it's a simple defeat boss mission. Idk, why...Siegfried is excellent to weak the enemies, so Shon and Corben can finish them off.Turn 1Player phaseCorben's first kill. Siegfried blocks the couple of bandits, so he can weak them for my first tier units.Enemy phaseThe thing about Siegfried: He gets lots of exp. (about 10), if he weakens an enemy. So he can easily gain level ups only by weaking them. I've read that his growths are pretty good, so I could make a good use of him.Turn 2Player phaseGod, the three most useless stats. More Shin-than Eliwood level up!CritThe half of enemies is dead already.Enemy phaseIt's Treck in armor... with a couple of brigand reinforcements.However he disappeares unlike these brigands, who have iron axes.Turn 3Player phaseEnemy phaseTurn 4Player phase You should use Siegfried a little bit, because like jet said above, he has great growths. Unfortunately I see!Enemy phaseTurn 5Player phaseSimply pathetic :/Siegfried will challenge the boss in enemy phase.Enemy phaseThis will take a while...Turn 6Player phase Shon is a lot like Eliwood. He sucks, but he's a Lord. Use him enough to promote, but unless you want to jack him full of stat boosters, he'll be pretty bad. Eliwood is godly compared to him.I've enough of this shit! I replayed the chapter. I'll tell you the updated level ups after the boss is defeated!So he can take two hits by him.Enemy phaseTurn 7 Player phaseActually a good thing that the critted, because he didn't get any exp. at all. So another reason to replay this chapter...Updated level ups from my replayed run:Shon level 3 HP strength skill speed luck (why not earlier :P)Shon level 4 strength luck Corben level 2 strength defense Siegfried got exact the same level up like in the first run. Not great, but still better than the useless shit in the first run. Hopefully this RNG-abusing was only an exception. Though I want to have an usable Lord in my team.I only needed five turns, because I found a much easier way to beat the boss by accident:The piercing sword does effective damage to the boss. He's a special version of a brigand, but I've no idea, why the "rapier" can do effective damage to him. Anyway good to know. No problem! [spoiler=A traitor?!]I guess the Treck-guy is recruitable. I remember having troubles playing Immortal Sword. Did you download as well as install the frameworks? Yeah, I installed the couple of programs. Whenever I want to open IS with frameworks, I always get an error message. [spoiler=MAJOR SPOILERS] He dies near the end of the game I assumed it a little bit, when I read the lines about his injury. Just so you know, you missed out on [spoiler=Not sure if this should be spoilered?]Prologue Part 2. It's accessed by not having Siegfried attack/be attacked in the prologue. Damn it! Edited July 9, 2015 by Mister CatTeaDawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Great Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 We won't try to murder you over the Internet if you restart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momogeek2141 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 The class was an "armor brigand." Which is why rapier was effective. Also, I never noticed the Kevin=Treck, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverHairedFreak25 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Also, I never noticed the Kevin=Treck, lol. ...*facepalm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoniker Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 You missed a Gaiden that comes with not using Siegfred for ANYTHING in the first chapter, not even tanking attacks, making Shon do it ALL. Can't blame you, but you'll be missing out on a rather obscure sidequest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) [spoiler=Chapter 2 part 1]Sounds like good weapons I'll getOne vs. all returns - He has an unique sprite.New ally: The Fiora-looking-like character is Tamiko.I must save the blacksmith. Otherwise I won't get any (special) weapon(s).Dark past?Rather no!TamikoTamiko is a cleric. Clerics only can heal; can't use light magic yet. For her class she's not too frail. She has almost as much HP as Shon. She could take two hits by iron bows at least.NPCThe NPC is Kelik, a swordsman (= myrmidon) with a new sprite and pretty damn good stats. Thanks to his 23 HP and 7 defense he can take 2-3 hits without any problems. Since he has weapon advantage against the brigands, he should be fine.MapChapter 2 is a seize mission. This time it's a seize mission for real.This is actually a pretty tough chapter. There are plenty of dudes in a relative small area. Mainly brigands with iron, steel and hand axes, three iron bow archers and a mercenary with an iron sword. Since there are lots of enemies with range weapons, you must take care about the NPC and your healer. She can't do anything except for getting out of any enemy attacks ranges.Level 4 and 1 speed - Seriously?!The boss is an armor brigand like the previous one. The piercing sword will rape him. He has 14 HP left, because he wasn't healed after his battle against Kelik. Since he's placed on a throne, he'll 2 HP after each turn. He also drops an elixir. The class was an "armor brigand." Which is why rapier was effective. Thanks for clarifying it. So the high strength, defense and his low speed make sense.Turn 1Player phaseGood startThis is a little bit risky already, because lots of enemies can attack him. Though I bet on Corben's decent defense and his dodging abilities.The range weapons users must die at once so make my healer more usable. She must get behind for now.Enemy phaseLook how many range weapons - Really annoying. At least he does a good job in enemy phase.NPC phaseOf course he kills the brigand, who only had 1 HP left... instead of one these archers.Turn 2Player phaseCorben retreats. He can't do anything. He has javelin against the archers, but it would be useless against the hand axes. Furthermore I'd take the risk that the hand axes will hit and kill him.Look at this enemy hitrate! I place Shon on this thicket. Lots of enemies can attack him, but I highly expect that he'll dodge the most... at least I hope it.Enemy phaseOnly 1/4 hits.NPC phaseOne archer lessTurn 3Player phaseHopefully he's recruitable.Of course not :( - Wasted the turn with Siegfried.I take the speed.There aren't that many enemies anymore, so both are safe for now. Finally I can send my healer close them. She was out of work until now.Enemy phaseCritNPC phaseTurn 4Player phaseTakomi can finally do something. Healers get more exp. than in the regular FE games (21).Only three enemies + boss are left. Looks quite good now!I've noticed only now. There are three houses and a village to visit.I don't have someone like Tino, so visiting this house brings absolutely nothing.Nothing happens in enemy phase.Turn 5Player phaseHouse #2:Actually this is untrue: Shon has Eliwood-growths while his father has superb growths.His level ups get better and better. Quite like it!Enemy phaseNPC phaseTurn 6Player phaseTalisman (res +2)She can take one axe in her face. For exp. I'd do everything.Enemy phaseNPC phaseLast enemy killed - only boss is left.Turn 7Player phaseBlocked the boss, so the NPC can't reach him.Enemy phaseAlmost 100% hitrate despite +20% throne avoid. Thanks for equipping the steel axe he has 1 speed - Pathetic! Yeah already read that I missed a sidequest after the prologue.Sry, for that.Though it's still a blind LP, so things like this can happen. Edited July 10, 2015 by Mister CatTeaDawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Great Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 The class was an "armor brigand." Which is why rapier was effective. Also, I never noticed the Kevin=Treck, lol. Holy crap...you're right. Never realized that. Also, please use Corben, he's one of the coolest dudes in the game and I NEVER see him get used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverHairedFreak25 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Also, please use Corben, he's one of the coolest dudes in the game and I NEVER see him get used. Really? He's one of my best units in my current playthrough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Great Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Really? He's one of my best units in my current playthrough. Are you LPing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momogeek2141 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Are you LPing it? I don't think he is. @SilverHairedFreak: What the hell happened to Requiem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) [spoiler=Chapter 2 part 2]Turn 8Player phaseVisiting the village:Javelin - something for him or ShonRaped - Nice level up and an elixirIn the seize missions only Siegfried can seize. It took three turns to do it.ExcellentJAKE!!!Yeah, I really will get a weapon!Nothung - magekiller sword (like ramvirus only as sword). Hopefully other units than Siegfried can use it too.Despite compliments he still doesn't join. [spoiler=Chapter 3 part 1]Two more new allies join: Shuuda and Inanna.Sounds like lots reinforcements and another (mini)boss with commander Cid will appear.There's a river I've to cross, but there's not bridge.[spoiler=My new peg. knight could solve this problem by rescuing and dropping my allies.]Like Siegfried says, the villager(s) can help me. New alliesInanna is a level 1 pegasus knight with decent bases. Though her base speed of 8 is kinda low, so she'll have problems to double enemies in the beginning. Therefore she has a nice con of 7. Iron lances would weigh her down only by one. However lance level E sucks. So she must start pretty much from zero.Shuuda is a level 4 mercenary with excellent bases and nice sword level C. I guess he'll be a great unit in this game. He has 2500 gold.MapChapter 3 is a relative small map with a few new enemies: Cavaliers, pegasus knights and knights.While these cavaliers have somewhat of decent stats...... the peggies are an utter joke! ONE strength! Actually this one has a speed of -3.Level 5 knight with four strength and more skill than a cavalier?! LOL! In general the enemies (for example the archers) have worse stats than in the previous chapter for some reason.[spoiler=NO WAY!!!]There's only one "Evil Jarod"! Yeah, this boss' name is really Jarod. Unlike in FE10 he's a cavalier with actual bases. Since he's on the throne, he won't move.This means it's a seize chapter.Turn 1Player phaseI can send all my units except for my healer and peg. knight (archers) in this horde of enemies without problems, because they do almost no damage to me.Shon, Corben, Siegfried and Shuuda can tank them. Main priority is to kill the archers at first to make my peg. knight usable.Enemy phaseShuuda can even orko mercenaries. Shows, how bad they are.So many enemies, so few damage!Turn 2Player phaseHe has lots of problems with hitting with the javelin.Now Inanaa is safe. The other enemies can't kill her.Enemy phase[spoiler=Shon adapts to a level that met the enemies.]He'll break this game in this chapter! OMG - 7 damage to my healer.Turn 3Player phaseWell, I don't deserve more for killing these terrible enemies.The chapter is almost done. Only five enemies + boss are left. I'm excited if and when the reinforcements will arrive.Enemy phaseSiegfried can't even weak them. "Jagen-status" ruined.Godtier! Even +2 HP! Turn 4 Player phase Quite nice, but she missed out the two most important stats besides speed. That's, what she needs! Edited July 12, 2015 by Mister CatTeaDawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 [spoiler=Chapter 3 part 2]So this knight must be defeated. Then I have to visit this village again and the villager will put up the brigde. The other knight (at top) is placed on a second bridge.Enemy phaseThe two most important statsTurn 5Player phaseNow going back to the village:The villager leaves the village and puts up the brigde. Turn 6 Player phase A hidden item to find and get a torch. Next chapter will be probably a FoW map. Enemy phase Turn 7 Still no reinforcements Player phase Before she'll go on treasure hunt, I try to give her as much exp. as I can. Enemy phase And of course he attacks the unit, who can kill him instead of using the javelin against Corben. Stupid boss! Seriously stop breaking the game, you troll! After a few turns I found the item, an elysian whip. First promotion item in the fourth chapter already - Interesting! He's still waiting for an answer... ... so he had to get tough with him Another new face So next I time I must fight nomads. Nighttime - so my prediction that the upcoming chapter will be a FoW map was probably right. Will fight first magic users Galagar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Great Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Use Corben and Shuuda, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Use Corben and Shuuda, please. what is wrong with you? he'll use who he wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blah the Prussian Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Use Corben and Shuuda, please. My god, Blaze, Shuuda is too busy LPing to fight a war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Great Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 what is wrong with you? he'll use who he wants Whoa, chill out, I'm just making a little request. It's not like I'm dictating everyone that he is going to use. My god, Blaze, Shuuda is too busy LPing to fight a war! That's...actually true. But he has a Panzer, so isn't he already fighting a war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 its the second time you requested it. i'm sure he got it after the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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