Radiant head Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Which healer do you prefer to use for the GM's and why? In all my pt's, I've only used Mist In fact, outside of 3-P and 3-1, Micaiah is the only light magic user I've ever even touched. But I'm starting to wonder about the merits of using Rhys instead. The main thing that made me think about reconsidering, as small as this sounds is in 4-4, where it would be really nice to have a staff bot with Restore who can climb the ledge instead of having to go all the way around. I know Rhys has a higher base mag, but I find this kind of useless, because the GM's barely need a healer at all, with their generally high durability, and the easy access to vulneraries/concoctions. So the more significant thing is that he can actually chip damage with his light tome. Concrete durability-wise, they seem about the same? Mist probably has a better chance at avoiding an ORKO because of her speed and skill growth. Then finally, Mist has way better movement. So yeah, although I always use Mist (up until 4-E, where Elincia+Micaiah take over), does anyone have reasons to prefer the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Personally, I never use either due to me never actually using healers.(I find vulneraries more convenient) If I had to use one however, I'd probaly go with Rhys since I usally stay away from mounts that aren't fliers and preference of light magic to another sword user. That and his name references Wrys, My personal favorite healer, and the only one I've ever used Edited April 25, 2015 by randomsonicvideos123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I prefer mounted healers 90% of the time, and I like speed, even if the units don't really need it, and Rhys is really lacking in the speed department, so.. yeah. Mist is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moishe Oofnik Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 not any of them one both of them are preety bad I may use Mist sometimes if i need some shit healing but generally no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Great Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 They are both pretty awful. I personally prefer Mist because she is mounted and she gets the special promotion item that you can only use on her so you don't really lose anything from using her. But given the choice, I wouldn't use either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 if i had to chose one, Mist. but both of them aren't great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 They're useful as healers and not for much else. Well, Rhys can hit enemies somewhat hard. Just make sure he isn't hit back. I prefer Mist, but both will get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Rhys can chip`better in 3-P and 3-1 and has a bit more Physic range+healing, but they're largely interchangeable and not that useful overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sthbdis Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I think Rhys is slightly underrated, not that he's great by any means, but he comes with bases that are a lot better so I find him more helpful. Especially considering I'm not planning on using either of them endgame, he's slightly more useful early on so I tend to favor him over Mist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 12 Range Physic vs nothing gg Mist. Also, Mist can climb the ledge in 4-4 and then use the Holy Crown if you're worried about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augestein Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Mist has 6 move while Rhys has 5 if that means anything as well. Personally, I think both of them are pretty wretched, but if I were forced to choose, I'd go with Mist because she has Water affinity and I like it more than Fire and with her movement, you'll have an easier time trying to use the support bonuses. And I guess you could have her carry people as well if you needed to instead of having other GOOD units do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 In the beginning: Both are walking targets because of their horrible base speed. Rhys will be doubled by everyone except for a few sages and axe generals; Mist by everyone except for sages and generals. Rhys is useless for me, if Soren or Ilyana have reached third tier. In the endgame you have Micaiah. Mist as cleric is a worse healer than Rhys, but becomes more useful if she's a valkyrie. More movement, canto and sol make her useful even as combat unit. And she can rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Mist has 6 move while Rhys has 5 if that means anything as well. Personally, I think both of them are pretty wretched, but if I were forced to choose, I'd go with Mist because she has Water affinity and I like it more than Fire and with her movement, you'll have an easier time trying to use the support bonuses. And I guess you could have her carry people as well if you needed to instead of having other GOOD units do that. Isn't it 7 vs 6? Either way, if I HAD to choose one, Mist, though that being said, I deploy Rhys as well every now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If there's any healer I'm using on the GMs, I usually bench them at Endgame. With that said, if I had to pick one, it would honestly be Reese. More healing power and meaningful damage for potshots is a little more important for me than a horse that likely will never arrive soon enough to make a meaningful difference. I will, however, give Mist props for being promotable with an item that doesn't take a Master Crown away from anyone that might need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Branded Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 On one of my playthroughs I had Rhys as a Saint solo Ashera so... I would say that he can definitely be worth using if you take the time. I've always had a fondness for Rhys since irl we look a bit alike but if you use him well in PoR and port your save over and nurture him he can be an incredible unit. Its worth doing for a playthrough in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I prefer Mist because i like horsies. Rhys isnt too bad at his job to begin with, but ehh. I only use Rhys if i got transfers for him (which is hella rare). Mist with Alondite is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBrand Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I use both. I prefer Rhy since he can do decent damage to non-magic units and Dark Sages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 On one of my playthroughs I had Rhys as a Saint solo Ashera so... Uh, I'm guessing this was easy mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ownagepuffs Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 No one here loves the 12 range physic as much as I do, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Branded Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Uh, I'm guessing this was easy mode. Actually it was on Normal. It's just a ton of work Edited April 28, 2015 by Lion Branded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) On Normal, where he can't double the auras? A lot of work is an understatement! Edited April 28, 2015 by Radiant head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Actually it was on Normal. It's just a ton of work Don't the Auras have 35 AS? And don't male Saints have 30 AS before White Pool is factored in? I don't think any Saints are doubling the Auras even with Nasir's White Pool, anyways. Edited April 28, 2015 by Just call me AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Don't the Auras have 35 AS? And don't male Saints have 30 AS before White Pool is factored in? I don't think any Saints are doubling the Auras even with Nasir's White Pool, anyways. the Auras have 30 AS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 He'd have to somehow be 2HKO'ing auras by himself since he can be vigored. Also, he doesn't even get a benefit from the red dragons the way physical units do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Disclaimer: I've only gone through RD once on easy mode due to me not enjoying it as much as other FEs, so take my next comment with a grain of salt. Rhys is more useful initially due to higher starting stats, and while I personally never used either him or Mist due to Ike and Mia roflstomping everything, I would go with Rhys just for that. As for Endgame, Rhys get benched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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