dragonlordsd Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Since the main thread's seven pages long now, I'm posting this to a new thread. Ok, so we've now confirmed not only are there maid and butler classes, but they actually have promotions. First off, I want to say that I object to them making maid and butler classes. Sure, the bride class in awakening was amusing, but that was the point. It was DLC. DLC are allowed a certain level of leniency on the weird. Making actual, main characters' default classes maids and butlers is weird. Now that I've got my hate out of the way, I want details and speculation. First off, why does Hoshido even have maids and butlers? That makes no sense! They're western servants. I assume that there were servants among the Japanese aristocracy, so why don't they have classes for those? It's weird, and goes against the whole east/west thing. Second, what weapons do they use, can they use magic, and other stuff. There. Go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's not any less ridiculous then dancers being a class. Just because we are used to them, we don't raise an eyebrow, i'm surprised that FE's only had proper "bards" twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlordsd Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's not any less ridiculous then dancers being a class. Just because we are used to them, we don't raise an eyebrow, i'm surprised that FE's only had proper "bards" twice. Good point, but still. Bards and dancers are well established classes in fantasy games, and have been for decades. Bards make sense, because they are essentially traveling entertainers, and it would be reasonable to expect them to have some level of combat knowledge. Dancers are incredibly acrobatic, and often merge with assassins or thieves, although I will admit that FE to date has never taken this approach. I dunno. Maybe it just seems weird to me because it's different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Good point, but still. Bards and dancers are well established classes in fantasy games, and have been for decades. Bards make sense, because they are essentially traveling entertainers, and it would be reasonable to expect them to have some level of combat knowledge. Dancers are incredibly acrobatic, and often merge with assassins or thieves, although I will admit that FE to date has never taken this approach. I dunno. Maybe it just seems weird to me because it's different. Maybe, sorry if I came off a bit rudely. I'm just used to seeing kick ass maids even in freaking Castlevania as enemies lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Lavellan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I like the idea of maids and butlers, but that's probably because I'm used to the idea by now since I've been assuming Felicia would be a maid-like class since we first saw her. And it seems that Maids use staves and "concealed weapons" and I'm guessing it will be the same with butlers. Maybe that one Healer we see alongside Elise in that one screenshot is actually Joker assuming he is the butler-like character on the Hoshido cover which seems very likely. And I'm guessing Felicia and Joker are loyal to Kamui and not Nohr so they follow him wherever he decides to go and that is why we have them in both Nohr and Hoshido. Edit: Forgot some words. Edited May 19, 2015 by BeartholdtFubar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlordsd Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Maybe, sorry if I came off a bit rudely. I'm just used to seeing kick ass maids even in freaking Castlevania as enemies lol. True, true. There have been maids in many classics. Also, I do like the idea that they could be Nohr's equivalent of ninjas. Edited May 19, 2015 by dragonlordsd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) This game has, officially, WON ME OVER. Maids...and Butlers!? As if BATTLE NUNS weren't enough! ŎUŎ Edited May 19, 2015 by Soul~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Having seen healers with axes last time, the Maid/Butler classes don't surprise me at all. I'm for it, exactly because they're new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Jagen Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I love the new maid class, and really like Felicia thus far. Also, wasn't Cherche technically a maid? And these new classes don't seem too out of the ordinary. I mean, it's about damn time we see Royalty actually live like Royalty, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyanko Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://31.media.tumblr.com/d67f2242a87f921476d8b4c7c6e37e2d/tumblr_nf1v4oE7mu1u02ph8o1_500.gif Don't you know that any butler worth his salt uses the silverware to fight with? I'm really interested in this new butler class. I can wait to find out more about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlordsd Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://31.media.tumblr.com/d67f2242a87f921476d8b4c7c6e37e2d/tumblr_nf1v4oE7mu1u02ph8o1_500.gif Don't you know that any butler worth his salt uses the silverware to fight with? I'm really interested in this new butler class. I can wait to find out more about it. If "spoon" is an actual weapon, that would make this the best game of all time, ever. Just think about the puns... we could have the real "spoony bard." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKHikaru13 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I know people are pissed about the whole 'anime trope' thing but come one, butlers and maids have been used in fiction for a very long time. And with all the characters with a servant thematic, it was about time we gave them an actual class. Personally, I'm quite excited about the new classes. Healers who fight back with knives? Sign me up. Granted I liked Felicia from the beginning, but still. If "spoon" is an actual weapon, that would make this the best game of all time, ever. Just think about the puns... we could have the real "spoony bard." I want this so badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philranger Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I love the new maid class, and really like Felicia thus far. Also, wasn't Cherche technically a maid? And these new classes don't seem too out of the ordinary. I mean, it's about damn time we see Royalty actually live like Royalty, Cherche was a vassal. Pretty big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 They appear to me as previously said to be the equivalent of ninjas for nohr, and it kinda makes sense to have some servants capable of defending themselves by stabbing people, or being able to assassinate "guests" with a knife,ect plus they might not be used as enemy units unless they make sense such as in battles in nohrian castles or mansions. Plus fire emblem has plenty of units who can fight with barely any training so i don't see a problem on that front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGdood Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 One can say that they can be a noble's household retinue who may be able to fight a bit... I suppose Maid and Butler are as appropriate as any other. I look forward to seeing how they are in game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlordsd Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 I mentioned this in a different thread, but my current theory about the servants is that they all belong to a clan that trains them to be bodyguards and servants to royalty. I believe that it was confirmed in the latest article that all the butlers and maids will follow you regardless of your path. Is this correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer7956 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If you ignore the names of the classes, the two seem ok. They both use hidden weapons (which sound like they'll be either really useful with the debuffs or completely worthless) and the maids use staves, while the butlers use... something. Probably swords, since I can't imagine a Butler with an axe and you would see the lance or bow if Joker (cravat-san) used one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cysx Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I was waiting for such a thread. Gre Nade did it first. This guy. And yes that's his actual name. Otherwise I'm not too fond of the idea, but I guess we did have a butler with a weapon in front of us the entire time. Also, the Hoshido may not have butlers or maids. This Joker guy, whose name is also a problem by the way, apparently comes from Nohr. Same goes for Felicia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Jagen Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 For those questioning Maids/Butlers in the game, wouldn't they have to have some sort of protection. I mean, they're in the middle of a bloody war, and both family's heads are on the other's chopping block. If the gaurds fail, which, seeing as this is an FE Game is inevitable, they may be needed as a last ditch attempt. Also, what really differentiates Maids from Clerics. Maids appear to similarly be clerics with a form of self defense, while Butler appear to be more along the Jagen side. It's not like we haven't seen similar classes before, hell many of said classes are returning in this game, these classes are simply more powerful versions. Not unlike Aqua as a Songstress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Probably swords, since I can't imagine a Butler with an axe Can't wait for the kitchen maids to bring out those frying pans and meat cleavers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoleo21 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Its about time the direct servants to the crown got some action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasori Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't know how I feel about this. I like a debuffing weapon type in theory, but i'm wondering how usefull it will be. Enemies usually don't need to be debuffed too badly. Maids and butlers is also something i'm not sure about. Almost all classes in Fire Emblem have been combat orientated with the exception of the dancer, which is a class meant to motivate your other units. Butlers and maids aren't exactly made for combat as far as i'm aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't know how I feel about this. I like a debuffing weapon type in theory, but i'm wondering how usefull it will be. Enemies usually don't need to be debuffed too badly. Well think of it this way, we'll already be buffing and debuffing ourselves with our weapons. Any additions to the enemy or us may be an edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Butlers and maids aren't exactly made for combat as far as i'm aware. Considering they both wield the debuffing weapons, and the maids also have staffs, it's more like they are support classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I don't see it as fanservice, it's fine, now if maids were taking up war clerics' axes I would think it was stupid but the way they're supposed to work is pretty interesting and fits IMO. I was under the impression maids and butlers are from Nohr though? Or at least, not from Hoshido. Even if they can join you in Hoshido, they have Western names. Which again, feels appropriate like how Hoshido has some Asian-inspired classes (ninja, miko). Do we know what butlers use actually? I thought it was just the male version of maid but I'm not sure. Edited May 19, 2015 by Book Bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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