Unit Optimization Thread

[Shinshia]

Hey guys,

I have a few questions: what secondary class would be best for Kamui if she marries Lazward (mainly for his benefit)? I have trouble deciding what his ending class is going to be (I don't want him to be a Rally bot though). Also, I was thinking of giving her +Speed/-Luck, is there a better option (this is mainly for Soleil's stats)?

Thanks!

[December Knight]

Oh, advice is always appreciated… its part of the point of these threads in the first place…

Oh I'm just not very good on giving advice on optimization, also I didn't know what would be good advice or bad advice for what you wanted.

Both Saizou and Zero do enable Lockpicking… Zero offers more mobility and Lucky Seven (to combo with evasion), Saizou offers the Copycat ability (which I agree is a good ability, although I don't plan to build my team around it either, unlike Galeforce from Awakening).

Renewal does support the "tank" role that Tusbaki would have…. if he was in a sturdier class, that is.

I think that probably Zero or Saizou would be the best picks.

I think you should choose Zero, since you would most likely get more out of A+ ranking him then A+ ranking Saizou. I think since you don't seem to want Tsubaki to have Copycat but it's up to you.

As for your Hinoka!Mitama… If you have Clear Mind, you have access to Dread Fighter, don't you? Do you have a particular reasoning for not running Aggressor (or perhaps you still would need to grind for some levels to get it)?

I want to use Aggressor for PvP (that and I don't have it yet) and well I don't know which skill I should switch it for.

Edited September 6, 2015 by December Knight

[astrophys]

Hey guys,

I have a few questions: what secondary class would be best for Kamui if she marries Lazward (mainly for his benefit)?

I'd say Samurai. Lazward uses swords. Kamui uses swords (her personal legendary weapon, the Yato, is a sword). Swordfaire benefits both of them.

[Ebony]

Hey guys,

I have a few questions: what secondary class would be best for Kamui if she marries Lazward (mainly for his benefit)? I have trouble deciding what his ending class is going to be (I don't want him to be a Rally bot though). Also, I was thinking of giving her +Speed/-Luck, is there a better option (this is mainly for Soleil's stats)?

Thanks!

I actually am most likely going to choose Spellcaster, if only for Tomefaire and Breaking Sky for my character. Most likely, Samurai could help.

[Shinshia]

I'd say Samurai. Lazward uses swords. Kamui uses swords (her personal legendary weapon, the Yato, is a sword). Swordfaire benefits both of them.

Yeah I think that's the best, I wish I could give him Flamboyant and Breaking Sky (via Lance Fighter) as well...

Thanks!

I actually am most likely going to choose Spellcaster, if only for Tomefaire and Breaking Sky for my character. Most likely, Samurai could help.

I am not even worried for Kamui because there are so many Kamuis to buy skills from in other My Castles. But yeah Samurai seems best. Thanks!

[Ebony]

I am not even worried for Kamui because there are so many Kamuis to buy skills from in other My Castles. But yeah Samurai seems best. Thanks!

Well that and you can get Spellcaster, which allows Basara. Which has Breaking Sky and Flamboyant.

[Shinshia]

Well that and you can get Spellcaster, which allows Basara. Which has Breaking Sky and Flamboyant.

I'm going to think about it :)

[astrophys]

Whom should I buddy these characters with: Kagerou, Nishiki, Oboro, Tsukuymoi, Nyx, Leo, Arthur, Luna, Lazward

Does Flora give Felicia Dark Mage or Mercenary[redundant] in buddy seal (they share primaries, but Felicia has two secondaries).

If Seigbert marries Oboro!Sophie and marriage seals, their cavaliers overlap. Which of Sophie's classes does he get? Mercenary? And does Sophie get Wyvern Rider?

First Gen Pairings:

1. Hinoka x Tsubaki + Camilla; Tsubaki x Hinoka + Zero; Matoi: +1 Str, +0 Mag, +2 Skl, +0 Spd, +0 Lck, +3 Def, +2 Res

Hinoka: Pegasus Warrior, Lance Fighter, Samurai, Wyvern Rider

Tsubaki: Pegasus Warrior, Samurai, Lance Fighter, Outlaw

2. Ryoma x Rinkah + Xander; Rinkah x Ryoma + Charlotte; Shinonome: +1 Str, +1 Mag, +1 Skl, +3 Spd, +2 Lck, +1 Def, -1 Res

Ryoma: Samurai, Pegasus Warrior, Oni Savage, Cavalier

Rinkah: Oni Savage, Ninja, Samurai, Fighter

3. Takumi x Hana + Leo; Hana x Takumi + Effie; Kisaragi: +3 Str, +1 Mag, +5 Skl, +1 Spd, +1 Lck, -2 Def, +0 Res

Takumi: Bowman, Lance Fighter, Samurai, Dark Mage

Hana: Samurai, Priestess, Bowman, Knight

4. Saizou x Kagerou + Lazward; Kagerou x Saizou + (Setsuna, Rinkah, or Pieri); Gurei: +5 Str, +1 Mag, +3 Skl, -2 Spd, +1 Lck, +1 Def, +0 Res

Saizou: Ninja, Samurai, Spellcaster, Mercenary

Kagerou: Ninja, Spellcaster, Samurai, Bowman or Oni Savage or Cavalier

5. Hinata x Pieri + Nishiki; Pieri x Hinata + Luna; Hisame: +3 Str, +1 Mag, -1 Skl, +0 Spd, +1 Lck, +1 Def, +3 Res

Hinata: Samurai, Oni Savage, Cavalier, Spellcaster

Pieri: Cavalier, Dark Mage, Samurai, Mercenary

6. Asama x Orochi + Tsubaki; Orochi x Asama + Nyx; Mitama: +3 Str, +1 Mag, +3 Skl, +0 Spd, +0 Lck, +0 Def, +2 Res

Asama: Priest, Herb Merchant, Spellcaster, Pegasus Warrior

Orochi: Spellcaster, Herb Merchant, Priestess, Dark Mage

7. Nishiki x Mozume + (Hinata, Asama, Flannel);Mozume x Nishiki + Oboro; Kinu: +2 Str, +1 Mag, -1 Skl, +4 Spd, +3 Lck, -1 Def, +1 Res

Nishiki: Fox Spirit, Spellcaster, Bowman, Samurai or Priest or Fighter

Mozume: Villager, Bowman, Spellcaster, Lance Fighter

8. Kaze x Felicia + Xander/Silas; Felicia x Kaze + Flora; Midoriko: -3 Str, +3 Mag, +3 Skl, +5 Spd, -1 Lck, -1 Def, +1 Res

Kaze: Ninja, Samurai, Rod Knight, Cavalier

Felicia: Rod Knight, Mercenary, Ninja, Dark Mage???

9. Jakob x Azura + Takumi; Azura x Jakob + Sakura; Shigure & Deere: +3 Str, -1 Mag, +4 Skl, +4 Spd, +0 Lck, -2 Def, +0 Res

Jakob: Rod Knight, Cavalier, Pegasus Warrior, Bowman

Azura: Singer, Pegasus Warrior, Rod Knight, Priestess

10. Silas x Oboro + Ryoma; Oboro x Silas + (Orochi, Rinkah, Belka, or Mozume); Sophie: +3 Str, +0 Mag, +4 Skl, +2 Spd, -1 Lck, +2 Def, -1 Res

Silas: Cavalier, Mercenary, Lance Fighter, Samurai

Oboro: Lance Fighter, Herb Merchant, Cavalier, Spellcaster or Oni Savage or Wyvern Rider or Bowman

11. Tsukuymoi x Nyx + (Asama, Nishiki, or Benoit); Nyx x Tsukuymoi + (Orochi, Effie, Charlotte, or Mozume); Syalla: +1 Str, +5 Mag, -2 Skl, +5 Spd, +1 Lck, -2 Def, +1 Res

Tsukuymoi: Spellcaster, Oni Savage, Dark Mage, Priest or replacement (Herb Merchant?) or Knight

Nyx: Dark Mage, Outlaw, Spellcaster, Knight or Fighter or Bowman

12. Benoit x Belka + Tsukuyomi; Belka x Benoit + Oboro; Ignis: +0 Str, +1 Mag, +3 Skl, -4 Spd, +1 Lck, +6 Def, +1 Res

Benoit: Knight, Fighter, Wyvern Rider, Spellcaster

Belka: Wyvern Rider, Fighter, Knight, Lance Fighter

13. Flannel x Camilla + Benoit; Camilla x Flannel + Hinoka; Velour: +5 Str, +0 Mag, +0 Skl, +1 Spd, -1 Lck, +4 Def, +0 Res

Flannel: Garou, Fighter, Wyvern Rider, Knight

Camilla: Wyvern Rider, Dark Mage, Fighter, Pegasus Warrior

14. Xander x Charlotte + Ryoma; Charlotte x Xander + Rinkah; Seigbert: +6 Str, +0 Mag, +0 Skl, +2 Spd, +3 Lck, +0 Def, -3 Res

Xander: Cavalier, Wyvern Rider, Fighter, Samurai

Charlotte: Fighter, Rod Knight, Cavalier, Oni Savage

15. Leo x Sakura + (Takumi, Xander, Odin, or Zero); Sakura x Leo + Elise; Foleo: -1 Str, +5 Mag, +0 Skl, +0 Spd, +1 Lck, +0 Def, +3 Res

Leo: Dark Mage, Rod Knight, Priestess, Bowman or Cavalier or Samurai or Outlaw

Sakura: Priestess, Pegasus Warrior, Dark Mage, Rod Knight

16. Zero x Setsuna + Tsubaki; Setsuna x Zero + Hinoka; Eponine: -1 Str, +1 Mag, +1 Skl, +7 Spd, +0 Lck, +0 Def, +1 Res

Zero: Outlaw, Dark Mage, Bowman, Pegasus Warrior

Setsuna: Bowman, Ninja, Outlaw, Pegasus Warrior

17. Odin x Elise + Lazward; Elise x Odin + Azura; Ophelia: +0 Str, +5 Mag, +0 Skl, +1 Spd, +3 Lck, -2 Def, +1 Res

Odin: Dark Mage, Samurai, Rod Knight, Mercenary

Elise: Rod Knight, Wyvern Rider, Dark Mage, Pegasus Warrior

18. Arthur x Effie + (Asama, Zero, or Flannel ); Effie x Arthur + Hana; Lutz: +5 Str, +1 Mag, +3 Skl, +2 Spd, -2 Lck, +1 Def, -1 Res

Arthur: Fighter, Cavalier, Knight, Priest or Outlaw

Effie: Knight, Rod Knight, Fighter, Samurai

19. Lazward x Luna + (Xander, Odin, or Flannel); Luna x Lazward + ( Setsuna, Camilla, Pieri, or Belka ); Soleil: +1 Str, +1 Mag, +2 Skl, +2 Spd, +2 Lck, +1 Def, +0 Res

Lazward: Mercenary, Ninja, Pegasus Warrior, Cavalier, Dark Mage, or Fighter

Luna: Mercenary, Pegasus Warrior, Ninja, Bowman, Wyvern Rider, or Cavalier

Second Generation Pairings:

1. Corrin x Matoi + male A-supports; Matoi x Corrin + Sophie; Kanna: +1 Str, +4 Mag, +2 Skl, +2 Spd, -1 Lck, +0 Def, +3 Res

Corrin: +MAG/-DEF: +4 MAG, +2 SPD, -1 LCK, -3 DEF, +1 RES; Secondary class: Dark Mage

Corrin: Nohr Prince, Dark Mage, Pegasus Warrior, all classes from male A-supports

Matoi: Pegasus Warrior, Samurai, Lance Fighter, Dark Mage, Cavalier

2.

Shinonome x Eponine + Seigbert

Eponine x Shinonome + Matoi

Shinonome: Lance Fighter, Samurai, Oni Savage, Outlaw, Cavalier

Eponine: Outlaw, Dark Mage, Bowman, Lance Fighter, Pegasus Warrior

3.

Kisaragi x Midoriko + Deere/Foleo (both Rod Knights)

Midoriko x Kisaragi + Kinu

Kisaragi: Bowman, Lance Fighter, Samurai, Herb Merchant, Rod Knight

Midoriko: Herb Merchant, Ninja, Rod Knight, Bowman, Spellcaster

4.

Gurei x Sophie + Deere

Sophie x Gurei + Matoi

Gurei: Ninja, Samurai, Spellcaster, Rod Knight, Cavalier

Sophie: Cavalier, Mercenary, Lance Fighter, Pegasus Warrior, Ninja

Gurei: Ninja, Samurai, Spellcaster, Rod Knight,

5.

Hisame x Kanna + Shigure

Kanna x Hisame + Mitama

Hisame: Samurai, Oni Savage, Cavalier, Dark Mage, Pegasus Warrior

Kanna: Nohr Princess, Dark Mage, Pegasus Warrior, Samurai, Priestess

6.

Shigure x Mitama + Hisame

Mitama x Shigure + Kanna

7.

Deere x Velour + Gurei

Velour x Deere + Kanna/Sophie/Kinu/Eponine

Deere: Rod Knight, Cavalier, Pegasus Warrior, Ninja, Fighter

Velour: Garou, FIghter, Wyvern Rider, Rod Knight, Dark Mage/Cavalier/Spellcaster/Outlaw

8.

Ignis x Ophelia+ Seigbert

Ophelia x Ignis + Syalla

Ignis: Knight, Fighter, Wyvern Rider, Cavalier, Dark Mage

Ophelia: Dark Mage, Samurai, Rod Knight, Spellcaster, Knight

9.

Seigbert x Soleil + Shinonome

Soleil x Seigbert + Mitama/Ophelia/Eponine

Seigbert: Cavalier, Wyvern Rider, Fighter, Lance Fighter, Mercenary

Soleil: Mercenary, Ninja, Pegasus Warrior, Cavalier, Priestess or Dark Mage or Outlaw

Seigbert: Cavalier, Wyvern Rider, Fighter, Lance Fighter,

10.

Foleo x Kinu + Shigure

Kinu x Foleo +

Foleo: Rod Knight, Dark Mage, Priest, Pegasus Warrior, Spellcaster

Kinu: Fox Spirit, Spellcaster, Villager, BUDDY, Rod Knight

11.

Lutz x Syalla+ Deere

Syalla x Lutz + Matoi

Lutz: Wyvern Rider, Fighter, Knight, Rod Knight, Spellcaster

Syalla: Spellcaster, Oni Savage, Dark Mage, Pegasus Warrior, Wyevern Rider,

Edited September 7, 2015 by astrophys

[December Knight]

If Seigbert marries Oboro!Sophie and marriage seals, their cavaliers overlap. Which of Sophie's classes does he get? Mercenary? And does Sophie get Wyvern Rider?

I'm pretty sure they will, Siegbert should get Mercenary and Sophie should get Wyvern Rider (if everything I know about Marriage Seals/Parallel Seals are right anyway), I would check myself but I don't have them married in any of my files but I can make a new one if you really want to know.

Edited September 7, 2015 by December Knight

[astrophys]

Don't worry about it… I altered around my pairing plans and they aren't together anymore….

For those interested, my plans are two posts ago.

[Ebony]

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A'ight, so... for Kagerou... Rinkah or Pieri. Rinkah grants access to a limited class if that's what you want, though I don't know if she benefits from it besides Ogre Smash. Pieri gets her Cavalier and the ever helpful Luna.

For Nishiki... I believe Flannel gets him Mercenary? If you're interested in that.

[astrophys]

Fighter, actually, which becomes Berserker and Hero.

[Ebony]

Fighter, actually, which becomes Berserker and Hero.

Hmm... I'd still try it. Or at least make note of it.

Nyx should go for Orochi. Gets her Tomefaire, Flamboyant, and Breaking Sky. Oboro? ... Belka... out of bias... or Rinkah, again.

[Carter]

Wyvern Lord sounds like a neat class for Oboro, imo. Not sure what skills she might want from the Wyvern Rider line, but since she has access to Defense Seal and Speed Seal, I think she could be a good debuffer for weaker units, and also get Deadly Breath from Revenant Knight. She will still retain her rank in lances. But that's just me. I've been trying to find flying classes good for Oboro, but I can't settle on anything. Ebony, do you have the game currently?

Also, thoughts on Elise!Ophelia as an Exorcist? Would she be better in that class instead of Sorcerer?

[astrophys]

Well, Wyvern gives STR+2, so there's that. Revanent Knight level 15 (although it doesn't share lance rank, so it might be more of a struggle, although it does share the Basara's tome rank) gives you Overbearing, which is +5 damage if attacking an unmounted unit… that's on the level of an additional Faire. There's also sword breaker from Wyvern Lord 15 for further messing up sword based opponents.

[Ebony]

Oh and for Leo... he doesn't really get much out of anyone honestly... at least that I remember. A+ wise. Maybe Xander to get Luna.

For Lazward, I think the only really good choice is also Xander. Unless you wanna get him Life Taker as a Dark Knight, where he'll have swords carry over. For Luna... I mean Belka and Camilla essentially give the same. Though Setsuna does give Bowfaire if you're going to make her a Bow Knight.

[astrophys]

Whom should I buddy these characters with: Kagerou, Nishiki, Oboro, Tsukuymoi, Nyx, Leo, Arthur, Luna, Lazward

Let's see….

Oboro: Wyvern Rider (Belka)….

Luna: Bowman (Setsuna)

Still thinking on the others.

As for Carter's question on Exorcist Elise!Ophelia…. Well, she'd be faster and get staff utility…. that could be helpful, although everything has trade offs.

[Ebony]

As I said, a good choice for Nyx would be Orochi.

[astrophys]

But my Nyx is with Tsukyomi, so she already gets Spellcaster from him… Spellcaster from Orochi would be redundant.

[Ebony]

Ay, I forgot. Sorry. In that case... hmm... maybe Charlotte...? I really don't know for Nyx. I'll save her for later.

Asama for Tsukuyomi???

[December Knight]

But my Nyx is with Tsukyomi, so she already gets Spellcaster from him… Spellcaster from Orochi would be redundant.

I think Nyx should A+ Effie since Nyx would get Luna, Diamond Strike, and Pavise to help Nyx with her defence. You can also have Tsukyomi A+ Benoit for the same deal.

Also, thoughts on Elise!Ophelia as an Exorcist? Would she be better in that class instead of Sorcerer?

Well how do you like these stats?

Elise!Ophelia (Exorcist Max Stats) - HP : 45, STR : 21, MAG : 38, SKL : 31, SPD : 33, LCK : 30, DEF : 23, RES : 32

Elise!Ophelia (Sorcerer Max Stats) - HP : 50, STR : 25, MAG : 40, SKL : 26, SPD : 30, LCK : 29, DEF : 27, RES : 34

Personally I like Ophelia as a Sorcerer (both stat and design wise) more but that's just me.

Edited September 7, 2015 by December Knight

[gayserbeam]

Ophelia suits Sorcerer better because her personal skill gives her +10% critical chance and so does the Sorcerer class. With Excalibur it will give her a 56% base Crit at cap (even enemies at capped luck will take about 38% chance).

If you marry her to Oni!Kanna, you could get Ogre Strike for a 76% chance.

Ophelia is built for magical crit builds.

I think Nyx should A+ Effie since Nyx would get Luna, Diamond Strike, and Pavise to help Nyx with her defence.

Mozume is another solid option because of Raven Strike. Her accuracy is a more immediate and much simpler-to-fix problem. I suppose in a marriage to Tsukuyomi it's less important because of access to Flamboyance, though. Flamboyance would also increase Luna and Pavise's activate rates, although not to the point where Nyx will survive anything. Edited September 7, 2015 by gayserbeam

[December Knight]

Mozume is another solid option because of Raven Strike. Her accuracy is a more immediate and much simpler-to-fix problem. I suppose in a marriage to Tsukuyomi it's less important because of access to Flamboyance, though. Flamboyance would also increase Luna and Pavise's activate rates, although not to the point where Nyx will survive anything.

Well yeah, I just thought that astrophys would have gotten Flamboyant for Nyx anyway so I thought that Effie would be a better A+ then Mozume, since I think that Flamboyant would be a bit helpful then Raven Strike due to the fact that Flamboyant would work on both the player and enemy phase instead of just the player phase and would help with Nyx using her activation skills not just her hit rate. I'm not trying to saying Nyx would survive more or anything even with Pavise and/or Diamond Strike but that it would help with her defence a little bit.

Hopefully I didn't sound rude or anything but if I did then I'm sorry.

Edited September 7, 2015 by December Knight

[mimasho]

Anyone know how Belka faires as a dreadfighter ?

or just the best in general class for her, excluding movement stats ?

Also, who is the best parent for Matoi overall ? (Excluding Hinoka and Luna)

I don't have a specific class in mind for her,

but I'm honestly questioning whether marrying Aqua to Tsubaki every run is my best option xD

[Ebony]

Anyone know how Belka faires as a dreadfighter ?

or just the best in general class for her, excluding movement stats ?

Also, who is the best parent for Matoi overall ? (Excluding Hinoka and Luna)

I don't have a specific class in mind for her,

but I'm honestly questioning whether marrying Aqua to Tsubaki every run is my best option xD

Personally? I go for Oboro for Matoi.