nocturnal YL Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Those comics make me wonder about the relationship between Mikoto and Yuugiri. Mikoto didn't seem like the type that would have a murdeous woman as a bodyguard, but then again, that ruthlessness is probably needed to be the queen's bodyguard. Who knows what sort of craziness you run in this job. I think Susukaze talked about the subordinates picking their liege (Kamui/Suzukaze A), so maybe Mikoto didn't do anything special. I guess the resulting arrangement makes as much sense as Marx picking Pieri for her potential killing prowess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taka-kun Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Wow, I felt somewhat sad when Kamui called Yuugiri mother. Guess the guy still misses his mother. Too bad we won't get anything more beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iavasechui Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 XD Well that line just axed the possibility of me ever pairing m!Kamui with her in half XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 XD Well that line just axed the possibility of me ever pairing m!Kamui with her in half XD He can already marry his sisters, why not a mother-figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysander Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 That and your Kamui could be older Kamui instead of the younger Kamui they tend to use for marketing/comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Gunther is Kamui's father figure and she can still marry him just fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Kamui is horny and lacks self control. They just want to bone everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iavasechui Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 weII I wasn't going to marry them either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowess Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 So is no one gonna talk about Kagerou's 2nd comic Because personally I find it hilarious omfg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylveonzoroark Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 that Yuugiri comic makes me want to use her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 So is no one gonna talk about Kagerou's 2nd comic Because personally I find it hilarious omfg. Me too XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landmaster Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I loved both of Kagerou's, but the second one had me dying~ XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboKD001 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) I actually don't quite understand the right comic for kagerou. I thought her drawing was bad but it looks pretty good imo (?) Edit: mobile plz Edited November 6, 2015 by LoboKD001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I actually don't quite understand the right comic for kagerou. I thought her drawing was bad but it looks pretty good imo (?) Edit: mobile plz The joke about her pictures is that they are hard to understand. Kind of like Yu Kobayashi's drawings, but without the horror, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taka-kun Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Kamui is horny and lacks self control. They just want to bone everything. The brutal truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raccoon844 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The brutal truth. I personally blame the Dragon genes. Though this does bring up a disturbing thought. I'll just spoiler it below. Does Kamui transforms into their dragon form whenever they are in heat or when they are mating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 How is the picture of a lake during the sunset NOT an average day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiyu Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I think Kagerou's comic's made me laugh the most up until now c: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 How is the picture of a lake during the sunset NOT an average day? I think Kamui thought the sunset actually looked like a painting? Anyway, I think the joke is kind of lost. Here, the picture is not difficult to interpret at all. I personally blame the Dragon genes. Though this does bring up a disturbing thought. I'll just spoiler it below. Does Kamui transforms into their dragon form whenever they are in heat or when they are mating? [spoiler=Eww]That makes the Chapter 5 scene where Kamui pins down Aqua feel more disturbin'g than it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I personally blame the Dragon genes. Though this does bring up a disturbing thought. I'll just spoiler it below. Does Kamui transforms into their dragon form whenever they are in heat or when they are mating? I think Kamui thought the sunset actually looked like a painting? Anyway, I think the joke is kind of lost. Here, the picture is not difficult to interpret at all. [spoiler=Eww]That makes the Chapter 5 scene where Kamui pins down Aqua feel more disturbin'g than it should. Anybody else remember these, courtesy of Nekoknight? On a more pleasant topic... Kagerou's second comic is definitely nice. I'm liking Kamui's naively cheerful stalker-esque characterization in these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Can we just say that Fates fucked up really hard by having both a marriage system and so many potential ways for people to be related? Looking hard enough at the potential relationships and combination of relationship of Fates makes things so much more disturbing. Kamui can marry Fuuga, who was her stepfather's best friend and is Tsukuyomi's adoptive dad. Tsukuyomi can potentially be Kamui's stepson and Fuuga can potentially be Kamui's father-in-law. Shara also seems to canonically have a crush on Kamui if Kamui is not her mother. Tsukuyomi can marry Hinoka and Sakura. So Kamui can be married to Fuuga and have her step-niece slash granddaughter have a crush on her. Speaking of nieces (and nephews), I can't blame male Kamui nearly as much because the sisters' children can be almost any of the kids. But Shinonome and Kisaragi are always Ryouma and Takumi's children. If Kamui doesn't marry a sibling, they never find out that they're not related. In other words, in everyone's POV (except for Ryouma's, I suppose) when female Kamui romances Shinonome and Kisaragi, she is romancing her blood-related nephews. You can marry Gunter and Yukimura, who basically helped raise you in Nohr and Hoshido, and according to this comic Yuugiri is like a mother figure. And you can marry her. I'm still not over the whole marrying siblings thing. I think the only canon that exists is that Kamui, regardless of gender, is a sexual deviant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Kamui can marry Fuuga, who was her stepfather's best friend and is Tsukuyomi's adoptive dad. Tsukuyomi can potentially be Kamui's stepson and Fuuga can potentially be Kamui's father-in-law. Shara also seems to canonically have a crush on Kamui if Kamui is not her mother. Tsukuyomi can marry Hinoka and Sakura. So Kamui can be married to Fuuga and have her step-niece slash granddaughter have a crush on her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-LzdZ2eBC4 [spoiler=Story stuff] I haven't played IK but since Kamui's heritage is apparently more of a central topic in that route, does Kamui learn she's not blood related to her Hoshido siblings there? In that case, for IK, it wouldn't (assuming you romance them after the plot revelation) be known incest to romance the "nephews" of Kamui. Edited November 7, 2015 by NekoKnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 [spoiler=Story stuff] I haven't played IK but since Kamui's heritage is apparently more of a central topic in that route, does Kamui learn she's not blood related to her Hoshido siblings there? In that case, for IK, it wouldn't (assuming you romance them after the plot revelation) be known incest to romance the "nephews" of Kamui. I've heard that Mikoto tells Kamui and the Hoshido siblings as she's dying in chapter 24, but I can't read Japanese so don't quote me on that. It doesn't really make things better, as Kamui can still marry one of the Hoshidans or the children well before chapter 24, and no one really seems to react to the revelation either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordopolica Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I've heard that Mikoto tells Kamui and the Hoshido siblings as she's dying in chapter 24, but I can't read Japanese so don't quote me on that. It doesn't really make things better, as Kamui can still marry one of the Hoshidans or the children well before chapter 24, and no one really seems to react to the revelation either. It may have completely gone over my head, but I don't believe this is true. Granted my Japanese is quite limited and I was pretty much having it read to me by someone who is fluent in Japanese, but unless they omitted this I don't think it is ever revealed (although I haven't played Hoshido nor married siblings, Ryouma's S support suggests it's common knowledge that they're only half siblings. A few chapters later, Kamui still refers to Sumeragi as "Father" so no matter what that family relation is still present even through S support. I totally agree that sibling marriages were just a big error on their part. It just kind of comes off as gross especially when you can marry your 12-year-old adoptive sister who continues to call you "Big Brother." Not much better for the other younger siblings. The fact that this game seems conflicted between its huge familial themes (even amongst characters like Gunter and Yuugiri) and its bang-ability is really sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It may have completely gone over my head, but I don't believe this is true. Granted my Japanese is quite limited and I was pretty much having it read to me by someone who is fluent in Japanese, but unless they omitted this I don't think it is ever revealed (although I haven't played Hoshido nor married siblings, Ryouma's S support suggests it's common knowledge that they're only half siblings. A few chapters later, Kamui still refers to Sumeragi as "Father" so no matter what that family relation is still present even through S support. I totally agree that sibling marriages were just a big error on their part. It just kind of comes off as gross especially when you can marry your 12-year-old adoptive sister who continues to call you "Big Brother." Not much better for the other younger siblings. The fact that this game seems conflicted between its huge familial themes (even amongst characters like Gunter and Yuugiri) and its bang-ability is really sloppy. Wow, if it's not even revealed in the route where things relating to Kamui's real heritage is part of the plot, then supports are literally the only place where it's revealed. This is pretty much bullshit. There was no reason to make Kamui not related to the Hoshidos other than to make them eligible for marriage. Screw this plot. Did Mikoto at least reveal Shenmei to be her sister as she's dying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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