Pretty_Handsome Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Camilla and Hinoka are even older than Leo and Takumi yet they got nothing. Pretty annoying how only male Royals get the cool stuff. Was it too hard just to slap a unique axe and naginata on each? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yes But yeah, I do agree with you, it's pretty dumb that Camilla and Hinoka got nothing. In the case of Hinoka, I can ~sort of~ see why since Hoshido has males inherit before females and Hinoka's base class can't use bows. Leon and Camilla, however, really have no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hinoka got no unique weapon because she'll yippie kaiyai the living shit out of everything with her great speed than nearly everyone in the game. Ryoma's a special case though since he's the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I agree. Same with Azura too. I was really pumped to see her lance like 'OMG, what kinda special weapon does a dancer use?!' but nope just a Blessed Lance. THen the older girls only have Silver weapon in their art and the younger girls have the weakest healing staves. It would have been easy to give Hinoka and Camilla a weapon at least (Camilla especially since she could have easily been given Bolverk or Brynhildr). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblade Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hinoka got no unique weapon because she'll yippie kaiyai the living shit out of everything with her great speed than nearly everyone in the game. Ryoma's a special case though since he's the same way. Great, now I am imagining Hinoka as a cow girl. :p But seriously, I guessing they didn't want to have too many special weapons. But it would probally be all Hinoka would need to be visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSMinSC Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yeah, it kinda blows. However, with the weapon durability removed, you can just forge incredibly powerful weapons and name them yourself. For example, I'm giving Camilla a killer axe named Kindness. It's not the same, but it's something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I hate to be the history dickweed of this thread, but women tended to inherit nothing except a name and prestige from being born into nobility unless their spouse/parent was cool/backed into a complete corner in terms of heirs. It sucks, yeah, but it's unsurprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukemind Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Honestly, all the Royals deserve one. However, especially in Relevations, you could essentially have a 10 man squad of immortal dragon vein users. Hinoka has the most overall stats of anyone in my group, and she's 5 levels lower than Corrin. She's like Est for me. Camilla is... Seth/Oswin who comes late. Elise and Sakura with infinite super staffs... It would be the royal beatdown show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukemind Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I hate to be the history dickweed of this thread, but women tended to inherit nothing except a name and prestige from being born into nobility unless their spouse/parent was cool/backed into a complete corner in terms of heirs. It sucks, yeah, but it's unsurprising. True, but not in most Fire Emblems. Eirika, Lynn, Sanaki, Micaiah, etc- they all had real power. Now, in real life it was more rare. The Duchess of Britanny. Isabella of Aragon. Elizabeth the Great. Victoria. Great names, but they are but a few compared to the far more numerous male rulers (that being said, it's only because of, as you said, inheritance laws back then). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolvir Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) To be honest I think it has to do with how early you get the them. Corrin gets the Yato, but to be honest it really doesn't get really strong until later. I think they were worried it would be too overpowering to give them one due to how early you get at least Camila and Elise. The problem is they always could of given them one later if that was the case. Edited February 22, 2016 by Tolvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Dam PKMN Master Nappa Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 To be honest I think it has to do with how early you get the them. Corrin gets the Yato, but to be honest it really doesn't get really strong until later. I think they were worried it would be too overpowering to give them one due to how early you get at least Camila and Elise. The problem is they always could of given them one later if that was the case. They could have always received special weapons later on in the campaign. How many characters receive special unique weapons or improved unique weapons mid-game? Roy, Lyn, Eliwood, Hector, Eirika, Ephraim, Ike, Michiah, Nolan, Leonardo, Edward, Marth, Chrom, Corrin...maybe Caeda? There's no way that's all of them and that includes EVERY Lord unit since FE6. I suppose there's always DLC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) I hate to be the history dickweed of this thread, but women tended to inherit nothing except a name and prestige from being born into nobility unless their spouse/parent was cool/backed into a complete corner in terms of heirs. It sucks, yeah, but it's unsurprising. The sexism in their settings didn't stop Briggid from getting the Ishival, Julia from getting the Narga, Altenna from getting the Gae Bolg, Linda from getting the Aura, Tia from getting the Seiken Leda, Eirika from getting the Sieglinde, Elincia from getting the Amiti and Micaiah from getting the... well, she kinda got screwed over. As for other personal weapon wielded by women, there is the Darkness Sword for Mareeta, the Earth Sword for Nanna, the Holy Sword and the Daim Thunder for Olwen, the Brenthunder for Alicia, the Starlight and Aura Rain for Meriah and the Cymbeline for Sanaki. Edited February 22, 2016 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) I hate to be the history dickweed of this thread, but women tended to inherit nothing except a name and prestige from being born into nobility unless their spouse/parent was cool/backed into a complete corner in terms of heirs. It sucks, yeah, but it's unsurprising. This is an explanation that works for Hoshido, but Nohr is outright said to have equal primogeniture. The succession is in age order, therefore unless Garon just had a preference for Leon or Camilla declined there is no reason Leon should inherit anything before Camilla. Edited February 22, 2016 by Sunwoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 technically Briggid was the only hier able to wield her bow anyways, so it'd be waste to never pass it down because "she's a woman" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessAlyson Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yeah, I wish all the royals on both sides had special weapons. Oh well *sighs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel07 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I think it would have been nice if Camilla and Hinoka got weapons as well, if nothing else to add some variety. I mean, adding Corrin's Yato, 3 of the 5 weapons are swords. I don't really think Sakura or Elise need one though. I think they're good the way they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 This is what the forge is for tbh. I've already forged Elise and Camilla pseudo personals, tho I need a better name for Camilla's. I highly doubt Animoo Axe will EVER be taken seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minischew Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) I think it would have been nice if Camilla and Hinoka got weapons as well, if nothing else to add some variety. I mean, adding Corrin's Yato, 3 of the 5 weapons are swords. I don't really think Sakura or Elise need one though. I think they're good the way they are. I mean, it would have been nice to give them special staves. For instance, Elise could have gotten a Heal with no durability (with a different name, though), and that honestly wouldn't have been too broken or anything. Edited February 22, 2016 by Minischew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIO Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 This is an explanation that works for Hoshido, but Nohr is outright said to have equal primogeniture. The succession is in age order, therefore unless Garon just had a preference for Leon or Camilla declined there is no reason Leon should inherit anything before Camilla. Based on how she acts in the Hoshido(?) ending, I can believe that Camilia would turn down the right to ascend the throne in favor of Leon. I agree it's a shame that the ladies get essentially nothing (I guess with how they changed the child mechanics they didn't want to leave any artifacts up in the air like that). I do recall making some prospective weapons for the female royals about a year back: Hinoka would get a spear with fire damage Camilia would get an axe with light effects, but essentially use regular magic stats to determine damage Elise would get a staff that debuffs and limits a characters movement (ice themed) Sakura would get a staff that teleports people and heals them for slight damage (like rescue, but with a greater or flat restriction on range) (water/whirlpool themed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 This is what the forge is for tbh. Yeah, but then it won't be "real" still. No special bonus, no artwork, no story stuff... For lasses who are already put on the back burner, it hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alazen Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) The royal sisters not having special weapons is really an extension of how unimportant they are at large. Corrin has too many siblings and Fates would have been better served by some cuts. Edited February 22, 2016 by Alazen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I miss the days of Thracia where everyone and their mother had a unique weapon. However, I suppose with infinite durability, that would make everyone overpowered. But if everyone is overpowered, is anyone overpowered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I miss the days of Thracia where everyone and their mother had a unique weapon. However, I suppose with infinite durability, that would make everyone overpowered. But if everyone is overpowered, is anyone overpowered? All units are overpowered... Just some more then others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukemind Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The royal sisters not having special weapons is really an extension of how unimportant they are at large. Corrin has too many siblings and Fates would have been better served by some cuts. I actually view some of the sisters as more important. Leo is far less important than Camilla, and Takumi isn't nigh as important as Hinoka. Sakura is just... there and Elise is cute but untimitely minor, at least gameplay wise, to me. Not going into spoilers for any character but it really should have been Lobster and Hinoka with custom weapons, and Camilla+Xander with custom weapons. I do agree with character cuts. There are alot, I like most, but with so many few get time for much limelight. Though it comes with the territory of essentially doing a Pokemon Gold and Silver->Crystal in Fire Emblem style. Only with each being nigh completely unique in regards to the Pokemon... I haven't played that series in far to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I actually view some of the sisters as more important. Leo is far less important than Camilla, and Takumi isn't nigh as important as Hinoka. Sakura is just... there and Elise is cute but untimitely minor, at least gameplay wise, to me. ????? Please help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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