Refa Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Did you know that anime sometimes contains a mixture of Cel-shading and CGI, offering multiple types of eye candy for fans to enjoy? Hey rayfay do you think Clarinets could be scum and a buddy silenced him for towncred? The only possible Silencer would be Mitsuki, and I don't think that she's scum. Refa what changed your Kirsche read, cause from what I've seen you've been scum reading him all game. Have I misunderstood you or did something cause this change. It was in one of my responses to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ok I'll look through your ISO then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoesMad Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 PHASE PAUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoesMad Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Phase unpause sorry I will have votals within the hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoesMad Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I'm not late Day 4.1 Votals Izhuark (4): Boron, Cam, Randa, Elieson Randa (2): Refa Kirsche (1): Mitsuki Not Voting: Kirsche, Izhuark There is approximately 9 hours and 23 minutes until phase end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Can someone make a summary on why people think Izhuark is scum please? Other than Boron's case, all I remember is "wow he's been inactive, must be SCUM". I'm absolutely against his lynch if it wasn't obvious. I think people are casing him because he's the easy way out of the clusterfuck of townreads everyone has. Please, give this post I made on him another read. It's ok if you still disagree, but let's talk about it. I do see it, I have seen it, and I have said it. Hell I've gotten out of lynches by saying similar stuff before so sorry but it doesn't change my read on izuhark. You. Other people too, maybe. But you have to take Izhuark's personality and mafia experience into account. I don't think he'd say something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 How long has izuhark been playing, I'm just coming off of a break so I don't know which players have experience and which don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Like 3 games I think. As context, he gave up on one of those (where he was town) because he felt like he was a terrible mafia player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Okay that changes the context of whether or not he would attempt something like that. But it doesn't change the fact that my votes mostly pov. I know this seems like a load a crap and shit I made up on the fly, but it's not it just sounds weaker than making at least some push. So from my point of view, I'm confirmed town, I'm very confident Eli and Refa are town. That means there are three anti-town in 5 spots, now I'm confident one of cam and Kirsche is scum, this is based on the night 1 kill as I discussed earlier. This means between you, boron, and izuhark there are two scum. Now I have a null read slight lean towards scum on izuhark, a null slight lean on town on you, and a total null on boron. Between cam and Kirsche I do believe cam is scummier. However I will be playing this by the numbers, I have a 66% chance of getting scum by voting one of the three of you, and if we miss then just kill the other two. Between cam and Kirsche we only have 50% chance, and the punishment is harsher as we only get one scum instead of two, therefore it makes sense for me to vote between the three of you and in my opinion izuhark is the scummiest of you three hence my vote. Now I would rather have an actual case than rely of poe, but since what little basis I had for my case is invalid I need to rely purely on process of elimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Sorry if this sounds harsh but that literally makes no sense (Not in a scummy way, but just what). You're supposed to vote your strongest scumread, unless you need to consolidate, because that's the person who you have your strongest read on. Do you think Cam and Kirsche can't be scum together? The one thing I don't like about that is the passive acceptance of the lynch, I think town would care more about lynching their scumreads instead of passively going with what is happening. I need to think more about this but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Sorry if this sounds harsh but that literally makes no sense (Not in a scummy way, but just what). You're supposed to vote your strongest scumread, unless you need to consolidate, because that's the person who you have your strongest read on. Do you think Cam and Kirsche can't be scum together? The one thing I don't like about that is the passive acceptance of the lynch, I think town would care more about lynching their scumreads instead of passively going with what is happening. I need to think more about this but yeah. I don't believe both are scum, just based on interactions i don't feel it makes sense. And I'm lynching my second strongest scum read, even though it's not very strong. I would go for a cam lynch but the numbers dictate that it is a better option to go between the three of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I didn't say you were casing me on being a competent player, I said you were pushing me as if I were one and I wrongly predicted that you'd push me as not one later. Yeah, that's what I meant. I didn't write that properly. I still want to ask, where did you get the feeling that I was pushing you like you are a competent player as scum? My question was what makes me this someone who's faking cases. I think that's something people do as scum? The motivation in voting people because of what it means to vote people is different than the motivation behind voting people to make sense of the game and lynch scum. I see yours as the former. Now that you've seen a lot more posts by Randa, what do you think of his play? What are your thoughts on Refa right now? What do you think about Clarinets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 fuck i forgot clarinets was still in the game this changes things. ill explain after i finish my lab report. ##Unvote ##Vote: cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I'm here, what the fuck is going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 When it's time to consolidate for you and almost nobody does shit. I've decided I'll only be around for another hour, I need to sleep. It's worth mentioning that I've asked Clarinets to give his thoughts on Randa and Kirsche (Kirsche because I'm scumreading him, Randa because he said he'd support a lynch on him) and he still hasn't replied. I checked timestamps and he didn't reply to a message in spite of seeing it but he went ahead and replied to my next message. I'm suspicious but I'm not entirely sure on what to make out of it. I should change my vote because by the looks of it Kirsche isn't going to be lynched but I'm kind of paranoid. SIGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yeah, that's what I meant. I didn't write that properly. I still want to ask, where did you get the feeling that I was pushing you like you are a competent player as scum? From stuff like the poit about being like Vhaltz. I think that's something people do as scum? The motivation in voting people because of what it means to vote people is different than the motivation behind voting people to make sense of the game and lynch scum. I see yours as the former. This is not what I was asking. I wanted to know what part of my cases are fake? Now that you've seen a lot more posts by Randa, what do you think of his play? What are your thoughts on Refa right now? What do you think about Clarinets? Randa should explain why only me and Cam would make those N1 kills but his and Refa's play are all over the place. Still unsure on Refa, Clarinets looks bad on PoE. @Boron: we're no lynching :smugface: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Kirsche why do you even want to go with NL. There's literally no better way to obtain info than getting a flip, why aren't you pushing me. Or Refa, if you're so paranoid about his role that it makes you want to NL. What does someone's play being all over the place mean to you? Sorry, but I'll answer the rest tomorrow. It's not going to help doing that now. If you want a reply now though, say so and I'll do my best to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Oh. Assuming Izhuark is town, Refa is confirmed town because otherwise he could have hammered Izhuark. I am so sleepy right now, you have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Okay so to explain my vote change, with me remembering that clarinets exists the numbers change from 2 among 3 to 2 among 4, it should be obvious why this would cause me to change my vote, with that being said I have no problem lynching izuhark as he is one of two possible lynches the alternative being me. Unless we wanna turbo cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I am not lynching Cam. I don't think Cam is scummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuki Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Yeah we are not lynching Cam. I wanted to see what Randa would do. And I don't like it. If he actually wanted that lynch he'd be pushing for it, or at least brining up some relevant point about Cam, but instead he's just going along with whatever happens. I did say this before, didn't I? But now it's happened again. ##unvote ##Vote: Randa Considering that Refa is most likely town I feel better about placing my vote here. Still not optimal, but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 FYI, my computer is not working (I think it's an issue w/the battery, so yeah) so won't be able to make more than phone posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 NGL, part of the reason that I want Randa lynched over Izhuark is that I'm going to die if Izhuark gets lynched and flips town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Refa nGL regardless of who we lynch your probably gonna die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Izhuark can Bodyguard me (and should). Didn't comment on your recent posts but nothing really made me change my opinion. Also never said this earlier because I'm a moron but Elie's vote swap bothers me (regardless of Izhuarks alignment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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