Kirie Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) I get that not everyone is happy with the choices bookofholsety made for some of the names in Project Naga, but this is not the proper time or place to debate them, so I'm going to put on my mod voice and kindly ask people to stop derailing the thread now, please. <3 Edited August 28, 2016 by Kirie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diffuse Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I apologise. I thought leaving the whole story out there would clear up the situation, and somehow managed to forget that VinceKnight had already posted a link to the page I was quoting. I'll try to stay more focused in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I think Erin is just a typo. It wasn't spouse to be the name of the card. What is the name of the artist BTW The unpromoted card is by Tetsu Kurosawa, I think her promoted card is also the same illustrator but it's too blurry to confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalShich10N Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Yes, but the argument for Project Naga is that Fury is not a name. Dunno why Erin though. The Wiki will choose to roll with what sounds better, which is Erin by the way. Ferry IS a name and that's the actual one used by NoJ. And anything can be a name, I mean "Nephenee" is even less of a name than "Fury". Ahh anyways, who knows what goes through their minds. If anything I find it disrespectful to the source material, but this is not the place to discuss that I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Ferry IS a name and that's the actual one used by NoJ. And anything can be a name, I mean "Nephenee" is even less of a name than "Fury". Ahh anyways, who knows what goes through their minds. If anything I find it disrespectful to the source material, but this is not the place to discuss that I guess. Yes, I'm well aware that NoJ used Ferry as their name, but when it comes to localisation in the end -> no one knows if they would use the same name. I've barely played Genealogy (and I am not associated with Project Naga, nor have I even played the patch itself), but I've allowed my local FE4 expert (another wiki editor) to handle the FE4 stuff for me. So in the end, I've let him make the decisions. However, as Kirie said, we should stop detailing the thread and stop talking about it, you're free to message me and debate it there but please end the Project Naga talk here. Why exactly the card is trash? and What exactly means the 0? Garon isn't worth the payoff, he needs to Tap himself (and destroy 3 allied units) just to destroy their whole board, you want to be in a more advantageous position when you board clear, and using Garon to do it isn't that good, as you lose units for doing it. It would have been cooler if Garon didn't have to Tap himself to use the first skill but I can't complain I guess. Bolverk (skill 2) will never be used either, because flipping 2 for 1-2 range and a slight power increase is not worth it, especially when Garon has enough attack to attack their Main Character and get a hit in already. This along with the fact that he has 0 support (this is what the 0 means), when you take a hit from a low power unit your opponent has because you were supported by Garon (which is the same as failing a support in general) puts you in a bad situation. Well, if anything, Garon may come into play if specific swarming decks that rely on the field (like Ryoma) become a big thing (it may possibly happen) but as of now, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalShich10N Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) Garon isn't worth the payoff Yeah. While I've only played with Sleeve play, when it comes to the offensive having a lot of units deployed is kinda meaningless when the win/lose condition is tied to a single unit. Usually it matters very little if the opponent has their field swarmed when your 3 units can all gang up on the lord. It's not like Yugioh or Magic where every unit is a barrier to protect your life points, well unless your main character is in the backrow but there are simpler ways to pull them out, and unlike Pokemon you gain nothing by killing units. Hell you lose nothing by failing to try and hit the lord. This means that blowing up the field is a lot less effective. If his skill instead allowed him to do something like "Flip 3 bonds, you can move one enemy unit and this unit can attack twice" then he'd be very scary and also an SR card instead of just an R. I may be wrong, though. Edited August 29, 2016 by SalShich10N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Yeah. While I've only played with Sleeve play, when it comes to the offensive having a lot of units deployed is kinda meaningless when the win/lose condition is tied to a single unit. Usually it matters very little if the opponent has their field swarmed when your 3 units can all gang up on the lord. It's not like Yugioh or Magic where every unit is a barrier to protect your life points, well unless your main character is in the backrow but there are simpler ways to pull them out, and unlike Pokemon you gain nothing by killing units. Hell you lose nothing by failing to try and hit the lord. This means that blowing up the field is a lot less effective. If his skill instead allowed him to do something like "Flip 3 bonds, you can move one enemy unit and this unit can attack twice" then he'd be very scary and also an SR card instead of just an R. I may be wrong, though. Blowing up the field is relevant, but in Garon's case, it's not as relevant, because imagine in a scenario where their MC is at the back and you want to end the game, Garon blowing up their units is good and all, but you have to blow up 3 other allies to do it and Garon can't attack on that turn, so it balances out, which is... not that ideal really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalShich10N Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Blowing up the field is relevant, but in Garon's case, it's not as relevant, because imagine in a scenario where their MC is at the back and you want to end the game, Garon blowing up their units is good and all, but you have to blow up 3 other allies to do it and Garon can't attack on that turn, so it balances out, which is... not that ideal really. Oh crap it blows up 3 of your allies too AND taps him? Damn that's useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Notice that most "douchebag" cards (coz they support no one) tend to be more powerful than the final form heroes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirie Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 Today's reveal is promoted Ethlyn! Her status as an R also pretty much confirmed Cuan will get an R. It's also seriously messing with my SR predictions and hopes. Such an awesome looking card, though, I can't complain. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 On the one hand the art is pretty awesome. On the other, the sight of wyverns surrounding her in the background where it looks like she's in a desert give me an idea as to what scene the art for that card is based on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirie Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 On the one hand the art is pretty awesome. On the other, the sight of wyverns surrounding her in the background where it looks like she's in a desert give me an idea as to what scene the art for that card is based on... Yeah, that's what a lot of people (including myself) are thinking as well. Kind of bittersweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Is that a light brand or an earth sword? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirie Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 Is that a light brand or an earth sword? Light Brand. It's mentioned in her CCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Yeah, that's what a lot of people (including myself) are thinking as well. Kind of bittersweet. Wow. I just noticed that... Well uh... IT'S GOOD ART. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draxal Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 First thing I noticed was her card number 10. Which means Cuan is getting (7) 8-9. I'm wondering if Deidre gets punted to the end of the line with Arvis now instead, or if the Chalphy knights become starter exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardin Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I'm thinking that his retainers are being pushed to the back of the prologue characters. There still needs to be room for Lex and Azel, and they probably decided to give Sigurd's family a higher place in the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalShich10N Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Now Eythlin is a good card, she can flip down a bond to become 1-2 range 70 attack and if she kills she flip up the bond again. Then again,she's 10 support and promoting is not popular, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Now Eythlin is a good card, she can flip down a bond to become 1-2 range 70 attack and if she kills she flip up the bond again. Then again,she's 10 support and promoting is not popular, is it? Either way, if you have to promote for it, and you do get Light Brand for free if you manage to hit with it, but that isn't really anything special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Tonight's reveal, B06-062R Beruka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiToastExplosion Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Tonight's reveal, B06-062R Beruka. I rather enjoy all of Beruka's cards, but this one takes the cake - for the glory of Nohr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVinceKnight Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I rather enjoy all of Beruka's cards, but this one takes the cake - for the glory of Nohr! You'd be glad to know that Beruka blows herself up, FOR THE GLORY OF NOHR I particularly like this card art. Looks great. I bet it would look better IRL, when its shiny and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 How does this card fate against the Hinokopter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jariu Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) It does have weapon triangle advantage, I guess. Edited August 30, 2016 by Jariu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Her effects are gamble, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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