Jedi Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Edit: Sign ups have begun Ruleset3 Stock8 MinutesBest 2 of 3, except in Finals, best 3 out of 5Double EliminationNo CustomsStarter Stages● Battlefield● Final Destination● Smashville● Dreamland 64● Town & CityCounterpick Stages● Duck Hunt● Lylat Cruise● Halberd**● Omega Stages** Treated as Final Destination in banning phase. If Final Destination is banned, Omega Stages are banned and vice versa.**** New to our ruleset Character rotation must be done in a set, until you use all 3 characters you cannot repeat.The way stage choice works is thus, either both players agree to a stage to start on, or do a method to decide who starts striking stages, my personal suggestion is Game & Watch Hammer, which is when both players pick Game & Watch and use his Side B move and whomever gets a higher number gets the first stage strike. This is also a good way to lag test.The person who strikes first, strikes a stage from the Starter list, then the 2nd person strikes a stage and this continues until only one starter stage left which is the one you both play onWhomever wins a match, can strike 2 stages and the person who lost may select out of the remaining legal stages. There is also something called Dave's Stupid rule, where you cannot counter-pick to a stage you've won on in the setCharacter Changes - While you can change your characters during the set, you must tell your opponent you are switching and who to, as is proper in an official tournament. Unless you 2 agree to be secretive, I don't mind either wayThere is also the Gentleman's agreement, in which both players can agree to play on a nonlegal stage, this also can override Dave's Stupid RuleMii Fighters are allowed, but they must be 1111 set, sorry folks.- Matches will be recorded and sent to me, may as well add my NNID which is Jedisupersonic, in advance to prep for this. I will also be uploading them to my channel for a tourney playlist, I have a capture card so time doesn't matter.- Please give me your NNID when you sign up, even if you did previously, just for consistency sake, Player Info and Character Info List LinkSheikSamusZero Suit SamusPitMarthIkeDark PitMewtwoCloudCorrin Pick Orders in the entire thing PLAYER NNID BANS/OWNERSHIP RESTRICTIONS Jedi Jedisupersonic Olimar, Villager, Yoshi Carmine Sword sternski Olimar, Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt General Horace WAKKAWAKKAWAKKA Sheik, MetaKnight, Zero Suit Samus StardustRicon MrStardustRicon Olimar, Bowser Jr, Bowser Dotty RagamuffinDotty None Clarinets Pick1e Olimar, Charizard, Palutena Comet Comet7 Olimar, Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt Aura Wolf Octaivian None Tsunami Tsunami922 Mii Swordfighter, Mii Brawler, Mii Gunner Elieson Elieson Shiek, Villager, Olimar - Lacks DLC of: Roy, Ryu, Lucas, Cloud and Bayonetta Gemma DunamisKing Link, Toon Link, and Greninja - Lacks DLC of: Lucas, Cloud, Bayo, Corrin Jotaro Kujo TheTinyImp Shulk, Wario, Bowser Jr Squid Lord Doof PrfDoofus Lucas, Fox, Falco IceSage IceSage776 Bowser Jr, Olimar, Mii Swordfighter Batter lolinternets Rosalina Euklyd Euklyd Little Mac, Olimar, Pit Round 1 Draft Order PLAYER DRAFT ORDER / [SELECTION] General Horace Sonic Tsunami Lucario Carmine Sword Greninja IceSage Jigglypuff Dotty Mii Gunner Gemma Ness StardustRicon Mario Euklyd Kirby Elieson Mii Brawler Jedi Palutena Clarinets Bowser Jr Batter Luigi Aura Wolf Villager Jotaro Kujo Olimar Squid Lord Doof Shulk Comet Zelda Round 2 Picks PLAYER DRAFT ORDER / [SELECTION] Squid Lord Doof Diddy Kong General Horace Bayonetta IceSage Pac-Man Elieson Duck Hunt Comet Bowser Carmine Sword Garondorf Clarinets Mii Swordfighter Aura Wolf Robin Batter Dedede Jedi Megaman Euklyd Ryu Dotty Doctor Mario Gemma Roy Tsunami Rosalina Jotaro Kujo Mr. Game & Watch StardustRicon Charizard Round 3 Draft Order PLAYER DRAFT ORDER / [SELECTION] Elieson Falco Tsunami Wii Fit Trainer Euklyd Wario General Horace Toon Link Carmine Sword DK Jotaro Kujo Lucina Jedi ROB Dotty Little Mac Batter Pikachu Squid Lord Doof Metaknight Aura Wolf Lucas Comet Yoshi Gemma Fox Clarinets Captain Falcon IceSage Peach StardustRicon Samus Final teams PLAYER TEAMS Aura Wolf Villager Robin Lucas Batter Luigi King Dedede Pikachu Carmine Sword Greninja Garondorf Donkey Kong Clarinets Bowser Jr Mii Sword. Captain Falcon Comet Zelda Bowser Yoshi Dotty Mii Gunner Doctor Mario Little Mac Elieson Mii Brawler Duck Hunt Falco Euklyd Kirby Ryu Wario Gemma Ness Roy Fox General Horace Sonic Bayonetta Toon Link IceSage Jigglypuff Pac-Man Peach Jedi Palutena Megaman ROB Jotaro Kujo Olimar Mr. Game & W. Lucina Squid Lord Doof Shulk Diddy Kong Meta Knight StardustRicon Mario Charizard Samus Tsunami Lucario Rosalina Wii Fit Trainer Bracket: http://sforestsmash.challonge.com/PMC Round 1 StardustRicon vs Carmine Sword Tsunami vs Aura Wolf Edited April 18, 2016 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 i like the idea of bans so everyone doesn't get stuck with someone they hate. Like everyone lists 3 characters (or something) they don't want (multiple people can pick the same character) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 i like the idea of bans so everyone doesn't get stuck with someone they hate. Like everyone lists 3 characters (or something) they don't want (multiple people can pick the same character) I suppose, but I feel that goes against the idea of it. But what do I KNOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batter the Beast Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I'd say 3 bans is a bit too much, I'd settle for 1 ban so that someone doesn't get that one dude that they really have no chance with. I don't like the idea of people not in the tourney picking characters since that kinda goes against the "screw your opponent" thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 idk i feel like most ppl here have at least 10 ppl they don't know how to play as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Gotta agree with Elie here - there roster is really huge, so banning three isn't going to make it so that someone has all of their competent characters. I might join for giggles, and ban the guys I know how to play, just for shits and giggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I think just one ban pick is enough, 3 seems a bit high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 at least 3 bans imo on skype I suggested "idk let people ban half the cast" and I don't even think that would be too awful, although it would detract from the purpose of this tournament I feel like 5 bans could work just fine tbh if the idea is to saddle someone with a char they hate playing, why do bans at all? if not, then only allowing one ban is largely pointless I feel like for draft order, it should more be julia: picks for fred fred: picks for bob bob: picks for rose rose: picks for julia rose: picks for bob bob: picks for fred fred: picks for julia julia: picks for rose so that you don't have the same person picking all the characters for any one participant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 at least 3 bans imo on skype I suggested "idk let people ban half the cast" and I don't even think that would be too awful, although it would detract from the purpose of this tournament I feel like 5 bans could work just fine tbh if the idea is to saddle someone with a char they hate playing, why do bans at all? if not, then only allowing one ban is largely pointless I feel like for draft order, it should more be julia: picks for fred fred: picks for bob bob: picks for rose rose: picks for julia rose: picks for bob bob: picks for fred fred: picks for julia julia: picks for rose so that you don't have the same person picking all the characters for any one participant Could you setup a 16 player setup for that because I was thinking how that'd work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Could you setup a 16 player setup for that because I was thinking how that'd work. have the first and last players ban for each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 have the first and last players ban for each other Well you said you wanted different people to pick for different people per round so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Well you said you wanted different people to pick for different people per round so... [4/7/16, 10:06:59 PM] Euklydia: no I said I wanted it to not be the same person assigning every character [4/7/16, 10:07:05 PM] Euklydia: for a single person [4/7/16, 10:07:11 PM] Euklydia: I mean you could also do it like [4/7/16, 10:07:15 PM] Euklydia: just a random mapping [4/7/16, 10:07:27 PM] Coralreefa³: that sounds too complicated [4/7/16, 10:07:30 PM] Coralreefa³: well [4/7/16, 10:07:31 PM] Euklydia: no like [4/7/16, 10:07:32 PM] Coralreefa³: not complicated [4/7/16, 10:07:35 PM] Coralreefa³: too much /effort [4/7/16, 10:07:49 PM] Coralreefa³: assuming you mean like [4/7/16, 10:07:49 PM] Euklydia: generate 6 ordered lists of 1-16 [4/7/16, 10:07:56 PM] Euklydia: have the first list be the order of picks [4/7/16, 10:08:03 PM] Euklydia: and the second be which person each picks for [4/7/16, 10:08:15 PM] Euklydia: since it's not a draft, maintaining order doesn't matter for the record and benefit of others etc I actually like this plan the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 [4/7/16, 10:06:59 PM] Euklydia: no I said I wanted it to not be the same person assigning every character [4/7/16, 10:07:05 PM] Euklydia: for a single person [4/7/16, 10:07:11 PM] Euklydia: I mean you could also do it like [4/7/16, 10:07:15 PM] Euklydia: just a random mapping [4/7/16, 10:07:27 PM] Coralreefa³: that sounds too complicated [4/7/16, 10:07:30 PM] Coralreefa³: well [4/7/16, 10:07:31 PM] Euklydia: no like [4/7/16, 10:07:32 PM] Coralreefa³: not complicated [4/7/16, 10:07:35 PM] Coralreefa³: too much /effort [4/7/16, 10:07:49 PM] Coralreefa³: assuming you mean like [4/7/16, 10:07:49 PM] Euklydia: generate 6 ordered lists of 1-16 [4/7/16, 10:07:56 PM] Euklydia: have the first list be the order of picks [4/7/16, 10:08:03 PM] Euklydia: and the second be which person each picks for [4/7/16, 10:08:15 PM] Euklydia: since it's not a draft, maintaining order doesn't matter for the record and benefit of others etc I actually like this plan the most This actually sounds like a really solid idea, although I do wonder what everyone else thinks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) I resent that the only options for bans are 1/player and nothing. (edited for clarity when the poll changes) Edited April 8, 2016 by Euklyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 I resent that the only options for bans are 1/player and nothing. (edited for clarity when the poll changes) Sry I fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Here we go! A bump and a sign up sheet. Standard rules in this spoiler, sign ups and character list will be in the OP Ruleset 3 Stock8 MinutesBest 2 of 3, except in Finals, best 3 out of 5Double EliminationNo CustomsStarter Stages● Battlefield● Final Destination● Smashville● Dreamland 64● Town & CityCounterpick Stages● Duck Hunt● Lylat Cruise● Halberd**● Omega Stages** Treated as Final Destination in banning phase. If Final Destination is banned, Omega Stages are banned and vice versa.**** New to our rulesetThe way stage choice works is thus, either both players agree to a stage to start on, or do a method to decide who starts striking stages, my personal suggestion is Game & Watch Hammer, which is when both players pick Game & Watch and use his Side B move and whomever gets a higher number gets the first stage strike. This is also a good way to lag test.The person who strikes first, strikes a stage from the Starter list, then the 2nd person strikes a stage and this continues until only one starter stage left which is the one you both play onWhomever wins a match, can strike 2 stages and the person who lost may select out of the remaining legal stages. There is also something called Dave's Stupid rule, where you cannot counter-pick to a stage you've won on in the set Character Changes - While you can change your characters during the set, you must tell your opponent you are switching and who to, as is proper in an official tournament. Unless you 2 agree to be secretive, I don't mind either wayThere is also the Gentleman's agreement, in which both players can agree to play on a nonlegal stage, this also can override Dave's Stupid RuleMii Fighters are allowed, but they must be 1111 set, sorry folks. - Matches will be recorded and sent to me, may as well add my NNID which is Jedisupersonic, in advance to prep for this. I will also be uploading them to my channel for a tourney playlist, I have a capture card so time doesn't matter. - Please give me your NNID when you sign up, even if you did previously, just for consistency sake, This will work like a Soyo Draft for characters, however you are allowed 3 personal bans (This doesn't remove the character from the pool), please when you sign up, tell me your 3 personal bans, Other people will draft your characters, this will change per round, there will be 3 rounds. No repeats, no double picks. Also if you don't have all the DLC characters please tell me who you are missing and i'll list them as "unpickable" for you Because we'll have 3 characters each, you are required to use all 3 of them before you can use one of them again in a set (so basically only in finals) Edited April 9, 2016 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) I'm in. NNID: sternski Bans: Olimar, Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt You do realize Jedi that everyone is going to ban Olimar. Edited April 9, 2016 by Carmine Sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) /in WAKKAWAKKAWAKKA bans: Sheik, MetaKnight, and ZSS EDIT; forgot that metaknight existed Literally never played Gunner or Swordfighter but my Mii is hilarious so I don't even care if I get them Uh, I have all the DLC character if you want us to say that too. Edited April 9, 2016 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Uh, I have all the DLC character if you want us to say that too. I can just assume if people don't say they lack a character, that they have em all. I think haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 hey hang on a second, are we forced to swap characters after each match? Odds are people will get at least one person they're decent at and would just use them only, I think that you should only be allowed to use each character one game per set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 hey hang on a second, are we forced to swap characters after each match? Odds are people will get at least one person they're decent at and would just use them only, I think that you should only be allowed to use each character one game per set OH RIGHT, I totally forgot to address this. Yeah I was gonna put that in the rules whoops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStardustRicon Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) /in My bans are Olimar, Bowser Jr, and Bowser.NNID: MrStardustRicon Fuck the whole koopa lineage, I have personal beef with them >.> Edited April 9, 2016 by MrStardustRicon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotty Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 /in NNID - RagamuffinDotty No bans (if that's okay?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 No bans (if that's okay?) That is 100% ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarinets Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) /in, NNID: Pick1e Ban Olimar, Charizard, and Palutena Edited April 10, 2016 by Clarinets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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