Junkhead Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Like, the actual strongest. No "always a bigger fish" bullshit. I mean, I can totally accept Whis, his atendee, being stronger. But, liek, that's about it. With DBS, they keep introducing these "higher gods" and they're making him look like a wuss. Hell, Whis looks like a wuss next to this one new alien dude who's supposedly Top 5 in the multi-verse (according to Whis, himself). The series is literally all about power, but I think there should be some kind of limit, otherwise it just feels like one of those SSJ5 fanfics, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 do you feel edgy everytime you say shit like "omg another soul thread?" like can you let the guy live? if any other user posted the same shit they wouldnt get that response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Like, the actual strongest. No "always a bigger fish" bullshit. I mean, I can totally accept Whis, his atendee, being stronger. But, liek, that's about it. With DBS, they keep introducing these "higher gods" and they're making him look like a wuss. Hell, Whis looks like a wuss next to this one new alien dude who's supposedly Top 5 in the multi-verse (according to Whis, himself). The series is literally all about power, but I think there should be some kind of limit, otherwise it just feels like one of those SSJ5 fanfics, or something. Who is the strongest this week? I put it down a while ago, so I'm out of touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) You know you're like 10 years too late on this. Majin Buu was "omg he's powerful enough to destroy the planet" even though vegeta was capable of that towards the start of the series. Sure, more powerful villains can do it faster, but... EDIT-I just made up the time, it's possible you're like 15 or 20 years late. Edited August 31, 2016 by HELP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Like, the actual strongest. No "always a bigger fish" bullshit. I mean, I can totally accept Whis, his atendee, being stronger. But, liek, that's about it. With DBS, they keep introducing these "higher gods" and they're making him look like a wuss. Hell, Whis looks like a wuss next to this one new alien dude who's supposedly Top 5 in the multi-verse (according to Whis, himself). The series is literally all about power, but I think there should be some kind of limit, otherwise it just feels like one of those SSJ5 fanfics, or something. uh, this is what the series has been doing since dragon ball was just a story about a sun wukong child wannabe, and it's something shounens of that time did a lot , how is that a surprise You know you're like 10 years too late on this. Majin Buu was "omg he's powerful enough to destroy the planet" even though vegeta was capable of that towards the start of the series. Sure, more powerful villains can do it faster, but... the issue wasn't Buu being able to blow up the planet. Even Fat Buu could do that. The issue was that he was insane enough to do it without a motive for hesitation to stop him (Fat Buu wanted to have fun, Super Buu wanted to fight then maybe explode the planet like Cell). Edited August 31, 2016 by Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 it's funny how super has a shitty concept but cool application in practice while GT had a cool concept but a shitty application in practice SSJ4 is still better than SSJ God lynch the fanboys ##Vote: Fanboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) You don't fucking fuck with Beerus, that's the point. also, Kai, always appreciated but- Ein's actually one of the few that supports me, LOL. it's funny how super has a shitty concept but cool application in practice while GT had a cool concept but a shitty application in practice SSJ4 is still better than SSJ God That's a funny way to see it. To be honest, SSJB is pretty badass. It just really freaking sucks they're falling behind as soon as the transformation came out. Can you believe, that after 20 years, it's stil a trend for Vegeta to get his ass handed to him by the latest villain? It literally happened last week. Edited August 31, 2016 by Soul~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 SSJ4 is still better than SSJ God I kind of agree, sort of from an aesthetic standpoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The hierarchy of power in the Dragon verse has always been kind of bs, the "non catchup only Goku & Vegeta matter" dealilo is getting old remember back in Dragon Ball when everyone mattered, or Z somewhat where mostly everyone kind of mattered? It was getting old in the Buu Saga and Super keeps running with it, although this latest arc has been ok at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Like, the actual strongest. No "always a bigger fish" bullshit. However this has been a theme of the series since Roshi beat Goku in the first tournament in Dragon Ball, its a lesson he told Goku to take to heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 There are limits. It's called Beerus. Then, Whis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Like, literally, just end it with Whis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It'll probably end with Goku & Vegeta surpassing Beerus & Whis just like how Goku surpassed Kami back in Dragon Ball, and was offered the title of Kami, (which he refused) and then we'll go to the end of Z where Goku fights Uub, because Super is taking place before that somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I'm less on the limitation thing as I am: To be honest, SSJB is pretty badass. It just really freaking sucks they're falling behind as soon as the transformation came out. Can you believe, that after 20 years, it's stil a trend for Vegeta to get his ass handed to him by the latest villain? It literally happened last week. This. Just once would I like to see Vegeta not get his ass served to him by a villain, I know it's a pipe dream, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Vegeta will always win in our hearts for being a family man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 it's funny how super has a shitty concept but cool application in practice while GT had a cool concept but a shitty application in practice SSJ4 is still better than SSJ God lynch the fanboys ##Vote: Fanboy I didn't really watch GT. What's its central concept? The characters being kids again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 after the saiyans saga it was Vegeta's destiny to fall into the Worf Effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) yeah, the guy has BEER in his name. what the fuck, DBS? Edited August 31, 2016 by Comet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 You should just think of the "stronger character" thing as a necessary evil. What is Goku going to do - beat Beerus and then fight a villain who's weaker than him? I DB could try and make a tricky and intelligent villain who wins through guile and sneakiness, but that sort of wouldn't work in DB considering that a villain who's too weak wouldn't really be able to scratch the Z fighters. I think the cell saga probably did the best job of having a villain who advanced in power throughout the story (as opposed to freiza, who was just revealing his true power). I guess the buu saga did this as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) yeah, the guy has BEER in his name. what the fuckn DBS?You're talking about a series that has character named after undergarments. The standards aren't very high. Edited August 31, 2016 by Ϲharlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) You should just think of the "stronger character" thing as a necessary evil. What is Goku going to do - beat Beerus and then fight a villain who's weaker than him? I DB could try and make a tricky and intelligent villain who wins through guile and sneakiness, but that sort of wouldn't work in DB considering that a villain who's too weak wouldn't really be able to scratch the Z fighters. I think the cell saga probably did the best job of having a villain who advanced in power throughout the story (as opposed to freiza, who was just revealing his true power). I guess the buu saga did this as well. it could get the yu yu hakusho part 4 treatment for those who know it, that's ok Yusuke gets strong but never manages to surpass the strongest demon guy, despite overcoming many overpowered foes and doing his best (iirc he gets close to beating him but fails). for those who don't, I'm not going to spoil (and thus my post was useless, but that's ok). Edited August 31, 2016 by Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Frost apparently sort of did that in the Tournament Saga, even if he wasn't an actual villain (and he was, like, SSJ1.5 level at best). Hit also seemed to be sort of the case. Like, he didn't pack raw power, just a BS power and having just enough strength to actually hurt Vegeta and Goku...and taking a stupid amount of damage that would've probably killed him at least a thousand times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Hit is in his own level of bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I think the cell saga probably did the best job of having a villain who advanced in power throughout the story (as opposed to freiza, who was just revealing his true power). I guess the buu saga did this as well. Literally yes. Though, with regards to Freiza, I'm under the impression that he kinda grew into the power he had on Namek, kind of like Broly in a sense. I ended up liking Freiza more because he actually trained when he revived, instead of just reviving with more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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