Michelaar Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) So, since Xander's map has already been datamined and found in the game, I'm guessing we can expect Xander's grand hero battle to come reasonably soon. The map looks as following: The focus banner consists of: Linde, Arthur, Cordelia and Chrom. Enemies: (If incomplete, other stats and skills will come when the grand hero battle releases. Xander: HP - 61Atk - 48Spd - 25Def - 38Res - 17 Weapon: Siegfried (Distant Counter)Special: Blazing LightA: Armored Blow 3C: Spur Def 3 Green Cavalier: HP: 40 Atk: 46 Def: 17 Spd: 26 Res: 35 Weapon: Gronnwolf+ Special: Glacies A: Warding Blow 3 B: Vantage 3 (In other words, a pain) C: Hone Cavalry Lance Fighter: HP: 52 Atk: 42 Spd: 31 Def: 30 Res: 23 Weapon: Killer Lance+ Special: Ignis A: Armored Blow 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 Sword Fighter: HP: 52 Atk: 42 Spd: 31 Def: 30 Res: 23 Weapon: Killing Edge+ A: Armored Blow 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 Cleric: HP: 42 Atk: 34 Spd: 28 Def: 24 Res: 36 Weapon: Gravity Assist: Recover Special: Solid-Earth Balm (Def+4) B: Wings of Mercy 3 C: Hone Spd 3 Edited May 2, 2017 by Michelaar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 This map looks just as hard as Zephiel to me, could even be worse. Let's say 2 mages 1 dagger 1 bow and Xander Now look at the map Chaos Granted, I'm assuming the worst so it could always be a little easier than that hee hee Also, @Michelaar, when the stats are released can you make sure you update this with the proper stats for each of the units? Makes for some epic convenience strats :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 So far they didn't include 5*-only heroes in the banners so I am pretty sure Ryoma and Azura aren't going to be in it. I think it's distantly based on the map in Birthright where you fight him which would be interresting to have Laslow and Pieri popping up. (Which screams Ursula all over.) But maybe Raigh for his red anti-cavalier tome would be a good bet for the banner. Oboro again seems like a solid choice for her blue bulk and non-being-Effie status. Technically Subaki would work there too. Heck put in both! As for the fourth? It would be reliant on the type of enemies fighting along Xander. (and I hope it's a lot harder then Zephiel's battle because that one was a joke.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Silith13 said: So far they didn't include 5*-only heroes in the banners so I am pretty sure Ryoma and Azura aren't going to be in it. I think it's distantly based on the map in Birthright where you fight him which would be interresting to have Laslow and Pieri popping up. (Which screams Ursula all over.) But maybe Raigh for his red anti-cavalier tome would be a good bet for the banner. Oboro again seems like a solid choice for her blue bulk and non-being-Effie status. Technically Subaki would work there too. Heck put in both! As for the fourth? It would be reliant on the type of enemies fighting along Xander. (and I hope it's a lot harder then Zephiel's battle because that one was a joke.) Try being challenged to beat Lunatic Zephiel with no skill inheritance, no dancers, no repositioning/movement assists, no mages, and no units above A-tier on the wiki tier list in 7 turns or less. @Ice Dragon why must you make us suffer so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Silith13 said: Oboro again seems like a solid choice for her blue bulk and non-being-Effie status. #ReppingTheRep 4 minutes ago, Silith13 said: (and I hope it's a lot harder then Zephiel's battle because that one was a joke.) Heh after wasting 8 stamina potions clearing it with A tier units, your image of the map changes drastically lol Edited April 25, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Here is the idea I have for this one. Spoiler EDIT: My Zephiel team consisted of 1 S-tier (which everyone has (Olivia and level 1 3* would suffice) 2 A-tiers and one B-tier. (Which was Bartre) Edited April 25, 2017 by Silith13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troophpursooer Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Siegfried will be a pain to fight against, Ursula will be really helpful here, and F!Corrin can be in this banner, she is connected with Xander and have advantage against him. Edited April 25, 2017 by Troophpursooer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Silith13 said: Reveal hidden contents Laslow and Peri? You know there were never any other character specific units in the others so I'm not too sure about that...... If they are in there, I'll owe you a soda ;) Otherwise, I like the way you have it set up. I can send my Male Robin to the right and make Xander + Bow knight light work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelaar Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Arcanite said: This map looks just as hard as Zephiel to me, could even be worse. Let's say 2 mages 1 dagger 1 bow and Xander Now look at the map Chaos Granted, I'm assuming the worst so it could always be a little easier than that hee hee Also, @Michelaar, when the stats are released can you make sure you update this with the proper stats for each of the units? Makes for some epic convenience strats :P Yeah sure, just whisper in my ear when they are! 13 minutes ago, Silith13 said: So far they didn't include 5*-only heroes in the banners so I am pretty sure Ryoma and Azura aren't going to be in it. Minerva says hello Edited April 25, 2017 by Michelaar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Unlike the other battles before this one Xander having his retainers along makes sense. The setup will still work fine with a generic Lance Knight and Sword Infantry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: Try being challenged to beat Lunatic Zephiel with no skill inheritance, no dancers, no repositioning/movement assists, no mages, and no units above A-tier on the wiki tier list in 7 turns or less. @Ice Dragon why must you make us suffer so Hey, I could be challenging you all to do Robin's with no skill inheritance, no merges, no ranged counterattack, no units above A-tier on the wiki tier list, and only first-tier weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: Hey, I could be challenging you all to do Robin's with no skill inheritance, no merges, no ranged counterattack, no units above A-tier on the wiki tier list, and only first-tier weapons. Pls no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero1k Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) If there's a lot of horses, Blarwolf Ursula may work well here. Otherwise, Blarblade Ursula it is. Gunter comes either way. F!Robin may also be useful if there's blue horses here. The last slot is between Roy (Draw Back/Hone Spd) or Olivia (Dance/Hone Atk) Edited April 25, 2017 by Zero1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Hey, I could be challenging you all to do Robin's with no skill inheritance, no merges, no ranged counterattack, no units above A-tier on the wiki tier list, and only first-tier weapons. Is that a challenge? I'm going to give it a single try lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 T-Adept Swordbreaker M!Robin is probably all I'll need for Xander. I don't see a point planning out the rest of my team (barring a dancer, which is usually a staple) until we know the actual enemy units or at least the Battling banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I was beaten to the punch again :( They should have made a boxed in area to recreate the Xander duel in Birthright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, MaskedAmpharos said: T-Adept Swordbreaker M!Robin is probably all I'll need for Xander. Me and you both buddy! Let's see what green unit they'll put to get in our way I'm betting ax unit from Navarre map making a return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: Pls no Just now, Silith13 said: Is that a challenge? I'm going to give it a single try lol. I was actually going to issue that challenge, but I haven't actually bothered to try it yet. (I don't issue challenges I have not attempted myself to confirm that they are difficult, but doable.) I hope you have some units with very high Res because you're not allowed to retaliate against mages on enemy phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: I was actually going to issue that challenge, but I haven't actually bothered to try it yet. (I don't issue challenges I have not attempted myself to confirm that they are difficult, but doable.) I hope you have some units with very high Res because you're not allowed to retaliate against mages on enemy phase. Eh. I expected more. Spoiler EDIT: Huh I thought Minerva could be pulled as a 4*. Guess I was wrong. Edited April 25, 2017 by Silith13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'm more interested in Ryoma possibly being in the focus rather than the map and battle. I don't give a damn about Xander, I just want a Ryoma focus. xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Silith13 said: Eh. I expected more. Yeah, I kind of figured that would happen. Either the player steamrolls the enemy because lol mages or the player gets steamrolled by the enemy because lol mages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koaki Kairos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 For the banner, I'm going to guess that it will feature Corrin-F, Raigh, Sully, and i guess Saizo. Corbin-F should have a good 1vs1 match against Xander. Raigh is the only non-GHB character with a -wolf spell. Sully also can be anti-Xander. And Saizo can help Debuff enemies since we are probably fighting a low-key Horse Emblem team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Koaki Kairos said: For the banner, I'm going to guess that it will feature Corrin-F, Raigh, Sully, and i guess Saizo. Corbin-F should have a good 1vs1 match against Xander. Raigh is the only non-GHB character with a -wolf spell. Sully also can be anti-Xander. And Saizo can help Debuff enemies since we are probably fighting a low-key Horse Emblem team. The horrors I imagine. Xander, 3x Reinhardt and a Cecilia with Gronblade and +6 Speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, Koaki Kairos said: For the banner, I'm going to guess that it will feature Corrin-F, Raigh, Sully, and i guess Saizo. Corbin-F should have a good 1vs1 match against Xander. Raigh is the only non-GHB character with a -wolf spell. Sully also can be anti-Xander. And Saizo can help Debuff enemies since we are probably fighting a low-key Horse Emblem team. I was thinking similarly for F!Corrin and Raigh. Somewhat same with Sully, though I was also thinking maybe Subaki. Was thinking maybe a high-Atk archer instead of a dagger, though. Other possibilities for a second blue are either M!Robin or Odin, as they'd be able to damage Xander at range and soak the counter, no sweat. As for the enemies, I speculate a generic set of green tome cav (with Hone Cavalry), a bow cav (with Fortify Cavalry), a blue armour choking the point and... hmmm, maybe an armourslayer red infantry. That last slot could also be something really troll like a tanky Slow + Martyr healer to make it even harder to maneuver around the triple cavs' threat ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 They should put Reinhardt in every GHB banner. So people can clear easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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