Harvey Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Now that the remake is out and its been a long time now....do you guys still value Gaiden to this day? Like what in your opinion does the original do that the remake doesn't and likewise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) the original doesn't do anything that the remake doesn't literally the only thing i acknowledge about the nes version is that the act 4 music is kinda different Edited November 14, 2017 by unique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, unique said: the original doesn't do anything that the remake doesn't literally the only thing i acknowledge about the nes version is that the act 4 music is kinda different Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the original make some units like Lukas more tolerable to deal with since Warp isn't nerfed unlike the remake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Harvey said: Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the original make some units like Lukas more tolerable to deal with since Warp isn't nerfed unlike the remake? i mean yeah you can abuse warp but that's less "doing something the remake didn't" and more just something stupid that the remake fixed you could literally kill rudolf in one turn in the nes version hell, if you grinded/were lucky enough you could kill duma by just warping alm next to him too i guess you could use it to make low move units more useful but I don't think it's really a big deal that they made it more balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Unless you want to play the original game, there's literally no reason to play Gaiden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 6 hours ago, unique said: i mean yeah you can abuse warp but that's less "doing something the remake didn't" and more just something stupid that the remake fixed And yet the remake kept Lukas at a pathetic 4 movement and nerfed the movement giving ring. 6 hours ago, Armagon said: Unless you want to play the original game, there's literally no reason to play Gaiden. * The original experience. * The animations are still very fancy and over the top especially for a NES game, like a precursor to the GBA animations. * Some characters/classes are better like Lukas, Valbar, and Forsyth as mentioned above. * You get to experience items that were nerfed greatly in the remake. I love the remake, but it isn't a flat-out replacement for the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelman Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I like Gaiden more Much simpler story, nice retro aesthetic, some things weren't nerfed (Warp), no shoehorned mechanics (arts?), etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altrosa Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Remakes don't diminish the value of originals. If anything, SoV makes me value Gaiden more as we can see how far we've come and compare how both pushed their home console tech in the context of their release. But, that's the point of remakes, showing off tech and design growth and making a game more accessible. So, no, not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slumber Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I've never valued Gaiden. SoV being a game I greatly enjoyed should say a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Gaiden is awesome, where's the love? Hmm, let's see... -Gaiden's difficulty is just right. Echoes normal mode is too easy, hardmode I find too difficult. -No joke, I had to use a completely different strategic approach for most of Gaiden compared to every other FE, even Echoes. I don't know how to explain the difference in my strategy, but...Gaiden kicked my ass. I had to adjust big-time. But when Alm promotes, pfft. Holybowwarpsteamroll. It's amusing at least~ -The original speed ring is BEAUTIFUL. Luka, hyper-mobile tank. Python, ultimate range. Definitely worth experiencing and messing around with. -The opening music gives me shivers every time I hear it...! -The gimmick battles in the final dungeon are removed from Echoes. Very disappointing. The disappearing floor nearly made me crap my pants. -Gaiden's equip system is handled much better in my opinion. Items are limited, which ironically gives you more variety. Gaiden's shields don't have weight, though I suppose that's countered by the fact there aren't enough weapons to go around. But check Echoes: enough weapons to go around AND shields weigh you down. I rarely use shields in Echoes, but damn have they ever saved my life in Gaiden. It's like this... Gaiden: "Let's switch up which units gets the defense boost this battle!" Echoes: "Screw shields, let's have everyone ATTACK WITH ALL THESE POWERFUL WEAPONS THE GAME THROWS AT ME WHICH MAKE SHIELDS USELESS." ...No incentive to use shields, no variety. *sigh* But maybe that's just me being distracted/obsessed by damage output? (Didn't mention rings because their uses are similar in both games.) -Dragon's Maw... Both games have their faults with this one, but I'd say Gaiden's version is worth experiencing. TRAPPED WITH NO HOPE, the suffering is real. Hush, let's not get into warped FalconknightClaire. It's brutal when you don't know what's coming. -The despair of Lost Woods without a map. Do it, do it! "No Exp, No Growths, No Hit: The Game" Do it. You know you want to. I love both Gaiden and Echoes to pieces. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seazas Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 SOV only makes Gaiden relevant and worth something now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Denver Fan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think that Echoes was better than the original, but I will try the original in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisobeyedCargo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I'll probably try gaiden sometime, but echoes will probably be the version I prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Alm's angry scowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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