Interdimensional Observer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Othin said: Personally, I don't mind Heroes correcting gender imbalance in older games. Unless Macellan undergoes the operation to Macelle, it isn't correcting a gender imbalance. It is just choosing to represent the genders absolutely equally, which is not the same as relatively equally. In Shadow Dragon's case, we have 59 playables. 14 of whom are female. For 23.7% of the roster. So for relatively equal representation, we should get for every 1 female, 3 males. Admittedly, in Archanea, if there are "filler" characters, I'd say they would more often than not be male, since having fewer females gives each greater plot/world significance in Archanea's case. But this is less so with a later game like Blazing (you could say this of Binding though- did we need 4 Cavaliers and 2 Jagens? Although Wendy O Koopa is filler too, and Zealot isn't a bad character). Next, how about we apply this to FE4? We have 24 characters in the First Generation, and in the second, 24 original characters excluding subs (and excluding Finn). In the 1st Gen, we have 9 females to 15 males, and 8 females to 14 males. So 37.5% is female in the 1st and 33.33% in the 2nd, so for every one 1 female, we should expect roughly 2 males, slightly with one or two exceptions. FE6: 54 PCs without the trial map characters, of whom 19 are female, or 35.19%. FE7: 13 females in a playable roster of 44 counting Ninian and Nils separately. 29.55% is female. Let us see what the ratio would be for SS, which with Creature Campaign has 43 playables. Of whom, 14 are female (if I counted right)- the same as SD. But having a significantly smaller cast relative equal representation would be about 2 males for every 1 female (32.55% of the roster). Removing the CC characters, we have 33 playables, of whom 12 or 36.36% are female. RD, just to get both it and PoR done together. 74 including the Black Knight, and tossing in Largo from PoR just to get him out of the way. Of this, 25 are female, or 33.78%. For SoV, there are 34 characters, of whom 13 are female, or 38.23%. So we should get a little less than 2 men for every 1 woman. The ratio for Awakening is next. 49 characters between Spotpass and the main game excluding Einherjar. 23 of whom are female, well 24 with Robin or Morgan, one of whom will be female if the other isn't. So 46.94% of the playable roster is female here. Here, absolute equality is virtually the same as true equality, so it works here, and I'd expect the same of Fates by virtue of modernity and modern baby making. I know this is a little late, but I'm slow and meticulous in my number crunching. Edit: As needed to add more crunched numbers. Edited January 25, 2018 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolmanio Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Here is ALL the art for the banner characters, Lyon, and Marisa: https://imgur.com/a/c94Ho#vEWAebD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Coolmanio said: Here is ALL the art for the banner characters, Lyon, and Marisa: https://imgur.com/a/c94Ho#vEWAebD Nice! From what I saw on Reddit; Marisa's artist is the same as Celica's, and Lyon's artist is the same as Leon's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Lord_Grima said: Lyon's artist is the same as Leon's. So there is an artist specializing in pretty lavender boys with similar names? Now if only Leo got his hair dyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Spoiler Lyons weapon has been datamine s as Nagalfar, and it’s effect makes it a legendary raven tome. Neat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimue Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I love Lyon's art so much! The artist captured his personality perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Coolmanio said: Here is ALL the art for the banner characters, Lyon, and Marisa: https://imgur.com/a/c94Ho#vEWAebD They did it, they swapped Marisa's sword hand for her attack/special art, using her left for her special. Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverly Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Spoiler There’s no Samishar to be seen. Rip the dream of Marisa having a (potentially) legendary weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Apparently there aren't a lot of new maps. I guess just 5 story maps and Lyon's GHB? Since they can add the new TT final map and anything else from that week when they add the new legendary hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, SilvertheShadow said: Reveal hidden contents There’s no Samishar to be seen. Rip the dream of Marisa having a (potentially) legendary weapon. Spoiler My guess is she will get a Killing/Slaying Edge. That is what matches her pictures the most. Well, another Sword Unit as a TT reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLEASH IT Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Spoiler Marisa actually changes hands for her special, that's pretty neat. Edited January 25, 2018 by UNLEASH IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogon Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Damn it, Lyon! You just earned 20k feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, SilvertheShadow said: Hide contents There’s no Samishar to be seen. Rip the dream of Marisa having a (potentially) legendary weapon. Spoiler She will probably have Wo Dao or Slaying edge. As I mentioned earlier, she probably won't be that good of a unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexmender Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Spoiler Stats are here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Clogon said: Damn it, Lyon! You just earned 20k feathers. I was already planning on upgrading him just because he's Lyon, but I'll definitely be happy about doing so now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Alexmender said: Reveal hidden contents Stats are here Spoiler Myrrh has trainee stats with BST boost. +10 BST over normal fliers because why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alexmender said: Hide contents Stats are here Wow, Marisa and L’Archel are very meh. Erika is a red S!Corrin in a horse with one more sod point, Myrrh has 36 def, not including buffs, and Lyon is very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogon Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Korath88 said: Hide contents Myrrh has trainee stats with BST boost. +10 BST over normal fliers because why not Because she is a loli dragon with multiple effective weaknesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alexmender said: Reveal hidden contents Stats are here Spoiler WOW! Myrrh has 167 BST, 2 points higher than Armored Tharja, Jakob, and Henry! (165 each). Marisa looks decent, high Spd and decent Atk. Lyon is pretty good, decent defenses, low speed. Nothing too special, but still looks like a good unit. PRF Raven tome is nice! Eirika has the same speed as Brave Lyn! With horse buffs, she will be very strong! L'Arachel also has great offenses with a good Res as well. Two pretty good units for free? Plus a lot more orbs from the story to head towards the banner. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I hope people can stop being negative for a second and appreciate this great art. I recall there was a serious lack of official SS art for a long time when it was new, so it's especially nice to see these characters represented like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiddo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Marisa sucks. Low attack, only somewhat high speed (and no IVs means its not fixable). Lyon is decent. L'Ararchel is... not good. Too balanced of stats while still being extremely squishy. Eirika is pretty good. Not amazing, but probably the best horse bladetome user now. Myrrh is looking pretty great, but it will be interesting to see how two sets of weaknesses plays out for her. Edited January 25, 2018 by TheNiddo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverly Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Spoiler Lyon - His stats seems to fit his weapon's effect (which is a Raventome). I'll probably upgrade him at some point. Marisa - Her stats are... weird. So she has high HP and above average defense and speed, average attack, and below average Res. Okay. Guess she could use Bonfire and Panic Ploy. A little disappointed, but she's fixable. LA Rachel - She's okay. Speed is kinda in the dead zone, and her +3 Defense from her tome is kinda useless considering her standard defense is lame. Good attack and res at least Myrhh - MAN her stats are stupid lol. I'm not looking forward to facing her in Arena though. XD Eirika - Solid offenses, defenses are bleh, but she's designed to be a player phase unit so who cares. Very pleased with her bases. Edited January 25, 2018 by SilvertheShadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBits Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TheNiddo said: Marisa sucks. Low attack, only somewhat high speed (and no IVs means its not fixable). Lyon is decent. L'Ararchel is... not good. Too balanced of stats while still being extremely squishy. Eirika is pretty good. Not amazing, but probably the best horse bladetome user now. Myrrh is looking pretty great, but it will be interesting to see how two sets of weaknesses plays out for her. Myrrh only really has to worry about bows. Falchion users are almost non-existent on arena defense teams, their role falls flat in the hands of A.I. I'm looking forward to getting her as she looks like a lot of fun to use. The others I can agree with 100%. Sucks for Marisa though, I kinda expected her to be better since Joshua is actually a good unit but base 30/36 offenses with no ivs just isn't going to cut it. Edited January 25, 2018 by ChickenBits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Marisa has -1 Atk/+1 Spd compared to Joshua. She loses out to him hard in the Res department(-7 and Audhulma) but has +6 HP. Considering it looks like she'll have Wo Dao+, refinery will help her in other areas compared to Josh, but she's most likely to succeed focusing on def or speed since physical bulk and speed are the areas where she edges him out. Considering that red is the worst colour to be a res focused unit in hello ridiculous blue mages, she's probably as effective as Joshua in most lineups As for Eirika and L'Arachel, they'll have +3/+3 most of the time that it matters due to tome effects. Their stats are more than good enough to be effective, L'Arachel won't dethrone Reinhardt but no one thought she would. Eirika is the best red cav mage by virtue of not being garbage Edited January 25, 2018 by Ether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ether said: Reveal hidden contents Marisa has -1 Atk/+1 Spd compared to Joshua. She loses out to him hard in the Res department(-7 and Audhulma) but has +6 HP. Considering it looks like she'll have Wo Dao+, refinery will help her in other areas compared to Josh, but she's most likely to succeed focusing on def or speed since physical bulk and speed are the areas where she edges him out. Considering that red is the worst colour to be a res focused unit in hello ridiculous blue mages, she's probably as effective as Joshua in most lineups Not necessarily though. Joshua makes excellent manakete bait due to his high Res. 3CD glacies helps punch through the dragons' high defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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