Da Bear Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I would like to do a Cordelia vs. Sumia debate eventually... just throwing that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Who would you take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Who would you take? I could literally do either. I love both units and think they both have advantages. That said I would prefer Sumia... Edited May 15, 2013 by bearclaw13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I can defend Cordelia. But I won't be able to start till 5:00pm est. tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) I can defend Cordelia. But I won't be able to start till 5:00pm est. tomorrow. I could open then. If you want me to. Edited May 15, 2013 by bearclaw13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Im new on this, but I want to do Vaike and Gregor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) This post is now Kellam you can't see it. Edited May 25, 2013 by bearclaw13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) You know what? Screw it. If you want to do a debate I'll go against you. I have some MUs. Vaike (me) vs. Gregor (you) (I could switch here but wtv) Stahl (me) vs. Sully (you) Nowi (me) vs. Sumia (you) Donnel (me) vs. Virion (you) (you could switch to Ricken or another D tier here) Edited May 25, 2013 by bearclaw13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Ehhh 4:43 AM Church is 6:30 AM Need to sleep, and the core of the arguments is pretty lopsided But yeah, lets do it, maybe like 3 hours from now. Can you open it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Ehhh 4:43 AM Church is 6:30 AM Need to sleep, and the core of the arguments is pretty lopsided But yeah, lets do it, maybe like 3 hours from now. Can you open it? Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I think..... Sully vs Stahl Need a lighter discussion for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vapo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Think it'll be interesting maybe: Avatar (you) x Morgan (me), anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 While I'm not interested, Avatar would win by a landslide, it's not really even a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 While I'm not interested, Avatar would win by a landslide, it's not really even a competition. This. It just wouldn't work unless you like banned Veteran and used Donnel!Morgan or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vapo Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 How so? First, Morgan technically has access to EVERY non-DLC skill in the entire game, better than MU (who can only get skills of the same gender). (S)he will start with stats close enough to MU so that Morgan can catch up easily and turn out amazing. Veteran doesn't make a unit, and Morgan can easily insta-reclass to get Veteran anyway, and starts in Tactician for three (all good, one my waifu <3) parents, and two of those give another child for MU to pass MU's genes onto. There isn't any other base classes worth reclassing into anyway, unless you want Armshrift/Vantage, and those are better passed down imo anyway unless you want to give her a gender-exclusive skill, like Galeforce or Counter. So, Morgan has better skills BY FAR, better potential class set, and while MU has better availability, Morgan can catch up easily enough anyway. Morgan >> MU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 You mean for min/max right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Actually Veteran does make a unit I can easilly argue that My Unit would NOT be overpowered if they lacks Veteran Also the list of class that is a good reclass investment is.... huge. Tactician is IMO not one of them because of their terrible base stats Edited June 12, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vapo Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Actually Veteran does make a unit I can easilly argue that My Unit would NOT be overpowered if they lacks Veteran *AS overpowered And I mean any playthrough, Morgan can catch up/get opposite gender skills/get Veteran in ANY playthrough pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Didn't Olwen KO the boss with an axe-wielding Morgan in his run? So if you want, try proving that the difference in the performance of lategame MU and lategame Morgan is big enough to offset Morgan's absence in the first part of the game. Most people here take availability and opportunity cost seriously enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Morgan's ability to catch up is something with which no one disagrees. In my efficiency playthrough, Morgan caught up by like Chapter 24; in Chiki's LTC, Morgan caught up within a few chapters. If you're going to argue in terms of turns saved, the Avatar still wins by a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vapo Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Either way, anyone wanna try a debate? Lissa (me) x Maribelle (you), maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) *AS overpowered Avatar has rather terrible base stats, and their skills are nothing special before Godmode Rally If you want to put it in simple terms, without Veteran, Avatar IMO is just a Panne who joined some chapter earlier. Granted thats pretty OP, but.... not exactly special, or at least, not enough to make her better than Sumia like they are with Veteran (im biased to Sumia btw ;p) Edited June 12, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Avatar has rather terrible base stats, and their skills are nothing special before Godmode Rally If you want to put it in simple terms, without Veteran, Avatar IMO is just a Panne who joined some chapter earlier. Granted thats pretty OP, but.... not exactly special, or at least, not enough to make her better than Sumia like they are with Veteran (im biased to Sumia btw ;p) lulz. Avatar w/o Veteran would be like around Vaike. Have you seen his growths? Also on debating Lissa and Maribelle' it sounds like an interesting matchup but I'm not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) I won't even bother explaining why my choices are the best reclass :p Avatar +S -L HP STR MA SKL SPD DEF RES Tact 16 4 3 5 5 5 3 PK 16 4 2 7 8 4 6 -1 MAG +2 SKL +3 SPD -1 DEF +3 RES Cavalier 18 6 0 5 6 7 0 +2 HP +2 STR -3 MAG +1 SPD +2 DEF -3 RES WK 19 7 0 6 5 8 0 +3 HP +3 STR -3 MAG +1 SKL +3 DEF -3 RES Averages at Level 10 HP: 26.2 STR: 10.5 MAG: 9.05 SKL: 9.95 SPD: 13.40 LCK: 6.5 DEF: 9.6 RES: 6.7 Growth are innacurate but..... I take it back. Thats much worse than Panne >_> Edited June 12, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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