Saint Rubenio Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: I kept posting pics of it all the time tho xD I thought it was all Gunvolt. Eh. 1 hour ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: Eiyuden Chronicles I would say "give Suikoden a shot to see what you're getting into" but... Yeaaaaah I don't think I'll do that. Considering my very recent experience and knowing something of your own preferences, I believe I'd be doing Eiyuden a disservice if I proposed that. Instead, I would (predictably) recommend checking out Exit Fate, as it's basically Suikoden but with gameplay that's actually fun and requires possession of a brain. You did express some interest back when I was playing through it, not picking it up only because it was a JRPG, but if you're going to try Eiyuden, it might be worth considering this free alternative, get a better grasp of what these games feel like without dealing with the... age issues of the original Suikodens. Just a thought, of course, from someone who loved ET to pieces (most of the pieces anyway, but that's every game) and couldn't get into Suikoden. 1 hour ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: Triangle strategy - although you probably all noticed how i haven't been in a mood for Story heavy games lately - I just want to have fun. And the demo is really text heavy and if i don't like the gameplay, i would probably be hella pissed - i do enjoy me a good story tho Much as I like the game, I cannot pretend it isn't story heavy. First four chapters are skewed in text's favor. Game introduces 95% of the cast, all the factions, their hierarchies and the world. When the war starts, the game settles for a roughly 50/50 split when mock battles become a thing. On the other hand, I can tell you the mock battles aren't mindless grinding sessions. The first few are simpler, but they're all different and before long they become as varied and complex as the main missions. Of course, I found the story to be really great, but I'm also fonder of more grounded stories than you are, I think. And the gameplay is really damn good, when it's there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: And they tend to not give af - i like that That sounds great! ...But I'm 😬 about what lurks in the impenetrably black depths.🦑 Plus I'm simply not used to VNs, at all. Complain as ye will of the smoothed edges and milquetoast commitments of the stories found outside the worn-down building adjacent to the tavern where men to hang are granted one last drink, in whose basement the world of VNs lay (I'm talking about the serious ones, the "fluffy" ones are beneath the oyster parlor one block northwest). But for me, the bland and the generic, the flavorlessly inoffensive to the palate, might be preferable.😆 Edited January 14 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Exit Fate Noted 8 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: the game settles for a roughly 50/50 split when mock battles become a thing. 50/50 with mock battles included? Ouch. Are mock battles a must? I tend to not like them (or their equivalent) in SRPGs. 3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: But I'm 😬 about what lurks in the impenetrably black depths Curiosity is a curious thing - and i an of the curious type when it comes to story - even if sometimes i regret what i see/read - i'd rather it exist as an option. Reminds me of a WN i read a while back. The antagonist is one of the most vile ones i ever saw. Her ending is what she wished on the protags, yet it was still super yabai and made me hella uncomfortable. Still, no regrets xD 9 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: But for me, the bland and the generic, the flavorlessly inoffensive to the palate, might be preferable. Nothing wrong with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardianSing Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 What did steam mean by this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: What did steam mean by this? Abides to one of Marx' original ideologies that Communism was the evolution of Capitalism, not its anti-thesis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 The irony is that Recettear is 80% off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 11 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: 50/50 with mock battles included? Ouch. Are mock battles a must? I tend to not like them (or their equivalent) in SRPGs. Not a must, you'd probably slow down the rate at which you upgrade stuff a tad but that's about it. But again, they feel less like grinding battles and more like additional battle ideas they couldn't fit into the main game. They don't feel any less elaborate than the main battles and they're a nice break from the text. 4 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: What did steam mean by this? Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would *critique* capital end up *reinforcing* it instead… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: What did steam mean by this? What is socialism but a reaction to capitalism that desires to emulate its economic triumphs but without the human suffering -or so was the ideal? As an aside, I'm sure you saw this headline? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-ancient-city-has-been-hidden-in-the-amazon-for-2500-years-180983587/ I'll be waiting for one of my magazines to devote an entire feature article to telling me in depth about the discovery.🤓 Probably won't be until next year at the earliest, can't rush research. I saw it elsewhere said that this predates known major settlements in Amazonia by like ~1000 years? Big find. Edited January 14 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Okay, got my Devout to Job Level 20. I think that should be fine for now. Now, it's off... to the Forbidden Land Eureka! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) I like the dungeon music. Gives me chills. I wonder if I should've stock on Hi-Potions... but so far I can two-shot everything here, mwahaha. Oh, a Hine recolor boss, Amon. Didn't bother with the Barrier Shift this time around, heh. I'm thankful defeating bosses heals the party back up. Makes me not be as conservative with spell charges. Okay, the Kunoichi, with Aeroga and acting THRICE, was much tougher... but fortunately my Knight with Protect pretty much only received scratch damage, heh. Edited January 14 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardianSing Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Acacia Sgt said: Abides to one of Marx' original ideologies that Communism was the evolution of Capitalism, not its anti-thesis? How in god's name is Victoria 3 not part of the sale 21 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would *critique* capital end up *reinforcing* it instead… Yep. I get the feeling most young Americans now would say they are "anti-capitalist" in the sense that capitalism to them is as simple as corporations being annoyingly persistent with advertisements. Its become a bit of a trend these days for media companies to lampshade capitalism even if they are still very capitalist in execution. Case in point, I watched the new Indiana Jones movie recently and in it there was a line where one of the characters said "This is capitalism!" as a quip response to Jones calling them out for selling artifacts on the grey market (Which is relevant to the video I posted the other day funnily enough) and in the story its supposed to be a joke, like a knock on "capitalism" while failing to see the irony of the movie being the fourth installment/reboot of a multi million dollar Hollywood franchise with the famous actors and everything. Thing about capitalism is that they'll sell you even anti-capitalism, communism, socialism, whatever, if they think people would buy it. 43 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: What is socialism but a reaction to capitalism that desires to emulate its economic triumphs but without the human suffering -or so was the ideal? Vietnam seems to be doing pretty well for itself. Fastest growing economy in recent years I hear. Some Americans are even moving there for the better standard of living and housing prices which is very funny to me. Is it Socialist? In that do the workers own the means of production? I don't know, I've heard conflicting claims from Vietnamese people and western journalists. I'd love to visit the country to see for myself really. 52 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said: As an aside, I'm sure you saw headline? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-ancient-city-has-been-hidden-in-the-amazon-for-2500-years-180983587/ I'll be waiting for one of my magazines to devote an entire feature article to telling me in depth about the discovery.🤓 I saw it elsewhere said that this predates known major settlements in Amazonia by like ~1000 years? Big find. I didn't see this but I did see this. https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240102-the-train-maya-mexicos-ambitious-new-tourism-megaproject?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us Dubbed the "Greatest construction project in the world" and a "Symbol of hope for all living in the Mexican south." The enthusiasm is killing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: Yep. I get the feeling most young Americans now would say they are "anti-capitalist" in the sense that capitalism to them is as simple as corporations being annoyingly persistent with advertisements. Its become a bit of a trend these days for media companies to lampshade capitalism even if they are still very capitalist in execution. For the record (in case you're not aware), the game I pulled that line off of, Disco Elysium, was made as a passion project for an ongoing universe that the main writer had already written a book for, and it just happened to be a hit because it's really, really fucking good, a one-of-a-kind masterpiece that is very unafraid to get philosophical, critical and even political. The creative leads then lost the rights to the game and its universe to wealthy shareholders that took over the company. They proceeded to add a "collage mode" where you can pose your favorite wacky characters, plaster funny stickers all over them and make quirky memes. ...Still convinced you'd absolutely love that game, but please, do pirate it. 12 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: Case in point, I watched the new Indiana Jones movie recently and in it there was a line where one of the characters said "This is capitalism!" as a quip response to Jones calling them out for selling artifacts on the grey market (Which is relevant to the video I posted the other day funnily enough) and in the story its supposed to be a joke, like a knock on "capitalism" while failing to see the irony of the movie being the fourth installment/reboot of a multi million dollar Hollywood franchise with the famous actors and everything. Oh yeah, I remember that line. It was pretty lame. As far as "smug girl quips" go I preferred when she told Indy the hat made him look at least two years younger and he just responded with a tired grunt and moved right on. 12 minutes ago, GuardianSing said: Vietnam seems to be doing pretty well for itself. Fastest growing economy in recent years I hear. Some Americans are even moving there for the better standard of living and housing prices which is very funny to me. The irony of Americans moving to Vietnam, of all countries, because life's better there than in the Land of Freedom though. Hoo boy... Edited January 14 by Saint Rubenio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Hmm, the bosses are so close together, I can just pretty much spam magic every turn. Which is good, since I'm just going Curaga and wailing on with physical attacks. Almost to the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 5 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:mean If i still enjoyed it's gameplay i probably would've not dropped the series - despite the story taking a nosedive to the worst thing i ever saw. Shrimp-kun’s experience play CS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Phew, made it all the way to the end. ... ah, don't have the Teleport item, must use a spell charge. Well, that's fine. I wonder if I can unlock the ??? Dungeon. Will merit another trip and back through the Ancients' Maze... but I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Saint Rubenio said: But again, they feel less like grinding battles and more like additional battle ideas they couldn't fit into the main game. They don't feel any less elaborate than the main battles and they're a nice break from the text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 A few hundred resets and an hour 1/2 of them or so: It was about time, thank you. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said: Of course, I found the story to be really great, but I'm also fonder of more grounded stories than you are, I think. And the gameplay is really damn good, when it's there. How did you manage to keep up with the old age English?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: For what it's worth, you know I also feel the way you do about optional grinding battles (for instance, in FE I always completely ignore skirmishes and similar concepts, except rare instances where I have a very specific unit project or something like that), but I always played all the mock battles. Why would I ignore them when they're on the same level of quality as the main battles? 10 minutes ago, Lightcosmo said: How did you manage to keep up with the old age English?! Old age English? Triangle Strategy? My friend, not to brag, but this is what I call one of my favorite games of all time. Triangle Strategy's occasional usage of "demesne" instead of "domain" is child's play. ...Honestly though, didn't find it that complicated. They speak in a decidedly theatrical manner, but I'd say it remains pretty clear throughout. It certainly has nothing on Live A Live's medieval chapter - that one did get to me at times. Edited January 14 by Saint Rubenio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: For what it's worth, you know I also feel the way you do about optional grinding battles (for instance, in FE I always completely ignore skirmishes and similar concepts, except rare instances where I have a very specific unit project or something like that), but I always played all the mock battles. Why would I ignore them when they're on the same level of quality as the main battles? that is reassuring. Ty and noted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: My friend, not to brag, but this is what I call one of my favorite games of all time. Reminds me I need to continue with Lenneth. Though at this point I feel on starting over a new playthrough. Guess FF III took too much of my time, hahaha. --- Okay, those dragons in the ??? Dungeon are super tough. Four attacks per turn!? And they're enemies in the Crystal Tower too (thankfully very rare to encounter)... Okay, I'll stop for now. Will now go tackle the final dungeon next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidereal Wraith Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 18 minutes ago, Lightcosmo said: How did you manage to keep up with the old age English?! Reading stuff written like old English. 9 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Old age English? Triangle Strategy? My friend, not to brag, but this is what I call one of my favorite games of all time. Triangle Strategy's occasional usage of "demesne" instead of "domain" is child's play. ...Honestly though, didn't find it that complicated. They speak in a decidedly theatrical manner, but I'd say it remains pretty clear throughout. It certainly has nothing on Live A Live's medieval chapter - that one did get to me at times. *Wraith laughs from underneath a pile of empty whisky bottles* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) First snow flurries of the winter for me. It's about time.😄❄️ 2 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said: Are mock battles a must? I tend to not like them (or their equivalent) in SRPGs. Whereas Ruben reassured, this brings up one of those feared stumbling blocks that I knew would somehow spring up with my earlier recommendation.😅 Doing totally without free battles in DeSu is technically possible (the games even have an achievement for it), it'd be rather difficult. Not for EXP, since leveling is curved and EXP gain would flatten pretty soon. Not for skills, though doing one or two here and there could reduce the skill-cracking pressures during story battles. The main concern is money. There's no equipment to buy, but you need to update your demons every so often. Better demons mean using demon fusion, which is a net loss of one demonic companion each time, which means you continually need more. The cheaper and faster method to get new demons is buying them at auction, but they won't be "ideal" in terms of skill setups freshly bought and you may wish to fuse 'em off right away. The Compendium lets you buy new copies of whatever demons you have registered in it, including those with optimized skillsets, but it'll cost you more. I'd say the difficulty of the Devil Survivors is largely dependent on how much demon fusion you do and how optimal you go about it. Things would get quite easy running 8 demons all with Holy Dance/Multi-Strike + Anti-Most & Phys Repel. Less fusion and without maximizing the quality would make things tougher. -Although you always have your human leaders comprising the remaining one-third of your combat power. While they can't be as insanely strong, the ability to shuffle their skillsets any time outside of battle makes the humans more flexible (minus the part where you can only have each skill assigned to one leader at any time). ...Though fusion in itself could very well be a turnoff I've now realized.😆 -Go ahead, drop the games to the lowest possible priority, I completely understand.😅 Edited January 14 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) Okay, time for some SRW V. One thing I forgot to mention, but if I had the First Print DLC, then Lottie and Velt (the pilots of the Grungust and Huckebein) would've also rejoined with the Gundam 00 gang + Tobia. Alright, now time to do the DLC maps that unlocked. Okay, the first one is basically what Tobia was up to after the warp, getting entangled with Celestial Being and coming to learn about them. Edited January 14 by Acacia Sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) This map without Corn... oh no ...i hope i get Corn back before the port chapter...i should actually Wait a sec I have Corn at home 😄 Edited January 14 by Shrimpy -Limited Edition- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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