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  1. This is fair. I'd say more but it might influence the game, so I'll leave it at that until postgame. Good luck everyone.
  2. I'm subbed out, but I have permission to post this. Bolded: I don't really understand the first part. How is a pre-conceived notion not a logical failing? The second part I can see how it can be read that way, but it wasn't my intention so sorry about that. What I'm saying there is that it feels like withholding from comments like the things I said (which honestly seemed completely innocuous to me) feels stifling, and I don't think that's a productive way to do things. The other quotes: the first one is just me giving up. Again it wasn't my intent to AtE you or anyone, but sorry if it came across that way. The other two I thought were obvious as jokes. By the way, Mack hasn't read the thread so give him some time to catch up. I've given him a summary, but still.
  3. It was just how I had it in my mind at the time. Like I said, I hadn't read my role PM in a while. Is this second point addressed to me? If so, you can tell me what it's about whenever you feel interested in addressing it.
  4. Same man, but apparently that makes me scum, so you're my scum buddy now. Sorry Refa.
  5. You seemed townish to me, so I wanted to protect you in case any negative actions were targetted at you. @Refa
  6. I didn't "miss" it, I just hadn't read my role PM in a while. But sure, go ahead and vote me.
  7. @Snike Whoever has the role will understand, but basically I have a two-way, private conversation open with one other player here, who shall go unnamed. And yes @ your second post. The flavour is something about Marth being unlucky and Marth Isn't Allowed To Have Fun. I'm too lazy to address them directly by quotes, but the cases on me are I think pretty weak as far as scum reading goes (advocates so far: kirsche, Shinori, athena, Via, kindasorta Snike). They're legitimate in terms of play style criticism because I haven't been putting as much effort as I should have (and I haven't played in a long time; I only have one effort game under my belt), but otherwise it's just low hanging fruit. It feels like a lot of them are being informed by pre-conceived notions (on the fence = absolute scum) and other such oddities (am I not allowed to voice concerns about Snike or that I'm hopeful for a scum lynch? Perhaps it's not how it usually goes around here, but I think it's strange to use that as a crutch for a scum read). I feel like we're blowing this way out of proportion here, and there are bigger concerns we should be looking into instead. ##Vote: Junko I'm falling back on this until there's something better to be had.
  8. I'm being subbed out, but I'll let you all know that I'm actually Marth @Vi-astra the Town Martyr. Last night I targetted Refa and got a walkie talkie.
  9. You seem a little over-eager to push the Bartozio lynch, Snike. I know we'll need a lynch by the end of the day, but it's making me a bit uneasy.
  10. If I had to say, I'm less bothered by athena for gut reasons (though the cases against him remain relevant, so it's not that I'm not bothered at all), and Bart's roleclaim makes me more suspicious than athena's for reasons already mentioned. I guess a Junk turbo isn't happening right now, and since there's only 30 minutes left... ##Unvote ##Vote: Bartozio Fingers crossed it's a scum flip.
  11. Eesh, I'm late. Having read the past few pages, I'd like to do an ##Unvote on JB. There's more content now, but he's not entirely off my radar as scum. I think there are bigger priorities right now, but man I kind of feel bad about most of the current wagons. I don't know, maybe I missed something. Most of these people are blurring into each other as far as I'm concerned. Junk is an interesting case though. Honestly as I said before, it seems he's just being himself and I can't really tell if he's town or scum just from this. This post, however... How exactly does kirsche's new post(s) reaffirm your reads on him? Why doesn't it change your mind? I'd like you to expound on that, because it doesn't make much sense to me right now. Sure thing. 1. It makes sense when you put it that way. In general though, I feel like it could also be someone who's very unmotivated as well, in addition to the other things. Granted, it's more productive to think of it as a scum play than a newbtown, which is why I'm not entirely against a lynch or a vig on him. 2. I just don't really know Bibbon personally, and don't know how she usually plays. In general, pretty much all my current reads are on the fence and I can't honestly commit to any of them. I'm having trouble thinking of a good vote right now too. 3. Satsuma is still more or less null. I was honestly expecting more, but what I saw let me down. I'm not overly impressed with his reads (mostly surface level stuff; granted, I'm guilty of this too), but it's not enough for me to consider him definitely scum. I've been slow to read the new content, but what I saw of Marth made me lean more towards town for him than scum, so that's a no go as far as wagons go for me. 4. No worries. He just didn't really give any good rebuttals or defence for his behaviour when he was called out, and what he did give was very lacking and thin. He has been posting more and with more content since, as I mentioned. 5. No, not particularly noteworthy. I was just not especially impressed with his content in the first couple of hours (I think, not sure about the time frame, but early D1), because he didn't seem to say much of note. It was the first couple of hours, however, so I don't really blame him. I think he's gotten better since then. The town read was mostly from tone and the activity/engagement he did seemed like something more townish than not. Whew. With all that out of the way, I guess if I had to do a comparison of cases presented vs. defences for them, I guess Junk is the most suspect one. He hasn't really tried to defend himself or anything (at least, as far as I saw; I was rushing a bit because I was scared of the deadline), and his posts just don't say much in general, besides all the things he's got against him (flaky, etc.), so I'll stake my bets here. ##Vote: Junk
  12. Sure, I'll cop to that @Shinori. I'm not exactly doing my best with scum hunting (or playing this game in general), but the town reads also help me to better identify scum vs. town, especially in the long run. Telling other people about it will also be helpful I imagine, though I will try doing more.
  13. Maybe there should be, maybe there shouldn't. I know some people have acted worse (e.g. Marth, zeus, and Satsuma/athena in some instances), but for now I'm waiting on a defence from Marth. If we don't get it, or a satisfactory one, I'm switching votes to him. But for now, I feel strongest about JB. He hasn't even really tried to do anything beyond the surface level to repel the accusations against him. While this could just be a lazy/busy townie, I'm staking my bets on it (even though I doubt we'll lynch him today) until I can see something more convincing from him. Why is this so alarming to you? Although I'll say this, Snike makes a good point with athena. I didn't notice that before. I don't really see how it's wishy washy or swingy. I'm just saying I'm fine with looking into and seeing if my reads on him are correct or not. I think you're misreading my intent. Hey now, that's getting personal.
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