Digimon has better waifus than Pokémon!

[XRay]

As you can see, Digimon offers better waifus. However, despite having higher quality waifus, when you grab the measuring tape and compare Digimon's and Pokémon's fanbases, Pokémon's fanbase is larger and harder core than Digimon's fanbase. Do not worry, Digimon, at least your fanbase is bigger and harder core than Fire Emblem's fanbase; and definitely ginormous and rock solid compared to Advance Wars' fanbase, although that is not saying much.

Therefore, from what I can conclude, franchises with bigger fanbases have shittier taste, but can also produce a bigger load in their companies' hands. Do you agree with this assessment?

Digimon waifus:

Pokémon waifus:

As a bonus, here is Digimon lion husbando vs Pokémon cat husbando, and as you can see, there is huge gap in the quality of husbandos:

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Since we are on a Fire Emblem website, here are some examples of superior spouses that Fire Emblem has over both Digimon and Pokémon:

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Best Mortal Waifu:

Best Goddess Waifu:

Strongest Husbando:

Sexiest Voice Husbando:

 

 

On 10/12/2019 at 8:58 PM, Ingrid Brandl Galatea said:

Are you the new Soul now? 

Have I lived up to your expectations yet? Do you still miss Soul?

[Zapp Branniglenn]

Are those digimon characters...people? Or monsters? I can't tell.

I generally turn my nose at folks who seem to care more about the people characters in pokemon more than the pokemon. But this is NOT what I was suggesting should excite them instead.

[XRay]

2 minutes ago, Glennstavos said:

Are those digimon characters...people? Or monsters? I can't tell.

Those are Digimon monsters. In my opinion, Digimon monsters are generally cooler/sexier, but Pokémon monsters are generally cuter.

I think Digimon people and Pokémon people are about the same.

Edited October 17, 2019 by XRay

[AnonymousSpeed]

39 minutes ago, XRay said:

Do not worry, Digimon, at least your fanbase is bigger and harder core than Fire Emblem's fanbase; and definitely ginormous and rock solid compared to Advance Wars' fanbase

Goodness man, have a little mercy.
Though, does Digimon really have a bigger fanbase than Fire Emblem? I wouldn't doubt this in 2003, but Fire Emblem has grown quite a bit very quickly since Awakening.
It was for the worst.

Best waifu is Clippy the Paperclip because he can actually be interacted with plus he has the fbi passwords and can be completely naked and still look like less of a skank
Don't @ me.

[Acacia Sgt]

I'll admit, I was actually expecting this to be about the human characters.

2 minutes ago, AnonymousSpeed said:

Though, does Digimon really have a bigger fanbase than Fire Emblem? I wouldn't doubt this in 2003, but Fire Emblem has grown quite a bit very quickly since Awakening.
It was for the worst.

I would say it might be comparable. Can't comment of the newer series; but I think the latest games are popular and with sizeable fanbases. I, personally, look forward to Digimon Survive.

[XRay]

5 minutes ago, AnonymousSpeed said:

Goodness man, have a little mercy.

I like what you did there.

6 minutes ago, AnonymousSpeed said:

 Though, does Digimon really have a bigger fanbase than Fire Emblem? I wouldn't doubt this in 2003, but Fire Emblem has grown quite a bit very quickly since Awakening.

4 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

I would say it might be comparable. Can't comment of the newer series; but I think the latest games are popular and with sizeable fanbases. I, personally, look forward to Digimon Survive.

Good point. I think Fire Emblem has closed the gap a bit now, but I think I still lean towards Digimon being bigger. Fire Emblem is big enough to have a card game, but it is not big enough to have toys and anime released regularly for it, unlike Digimon.

[Acacia Sgt]

Or movies. I almost forgot the 20th Anniversary Movie.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Acacia Sgt

[MisterIceTeaPeach]

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Have I lived up to your expectations yet? 

Sorry to disappoint you, but these are not the waifus I was looking for.

That said I have as much knowledge of Digimon as a cow of ballett. 

[Troykv]

27 minutes ago, Glennstavos said:

Are those digimon characters...people? Or monsters? I can't tell.

I generally turn my nose at folks who seem to care more about the people characters in pokemon more than the pokemon. But this is NOT what I was suggesting should excite them instead.

They're Digital Monsters, but many of them were indeed designed to be sexy.

To be fair, a lot of "monsters" in folklore and myths are actually very human-like... with a twist.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Troykv

[Interdimensional Observer]

As the joke inventor of a topic now under a four-thousand-years seal about dating Gardevoirs and Tyranitars, I'm a little concerned about this topic's endpoint.

 

46 minutes ago, Glennstavos said:

I generally turn my nose at folks who seem to care more about the people characters in pokemon more than the pokemon. But this is NOT what I was suggesting should excite them instead.

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“Sinnoh Folk Story 3”

"There once were Pokémon that married people.

There once were people who married Pokémon.

This was a normal thing because long ago people and Pokémon were the same."

 

The English localization dropped the marriage and said "very close" and "sat at the same table" instead. It translates the last sentence as:

"It was a time when there existed no differences to distinguish the two."

 

The final sentences either way allow one to downplay the marrying. Since they can be interpreted to mean humans and Pokemon were the same... phylum? I wouldn't say "species", but "genus" sounds too low scientifically too. But does phylum keep them too separate? "Class" then?

Whatever word you use, it'd still arguably works against notions of Poke-bestiality. If we had Beastman-Who-In-Three-Hundred-Thousand-Years-Evolves-To-Human horn drilling Beastman-Who-In-Three-Hundred-Thousand-Years-Evolves-To-Mew, it isn't such a problem.

 

 

The Digimon look far more humanoids than I'd have expected, even if I vaguely recall from the one season I watched of the anime that the little siblings had angelic monsters. 

The red witch girl looks like a Yugi-oh recolor. And the blindfolded women in the middle remind of this:

 

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner's (and a great many subsequent games) Angel design. It has a blue variant without the bondage too, the breasts get some cloth over them, but nothing for the lower regions.

-But I think there is a problem if Digimon, kid-friendly I assume if it competes with Pokemon, has designs that remind me of SMT. 

Edited October 17, 2019 by Interdimensional Observer

[Acacia Sgt]

3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

-But I think there is a problem if Digimon, kid-friendly I assume if it competes with Pokemon, has designs that remind me of SMT. 

You'd be surprised.

I can only really speak about Digimon Adventure... but I'd say that, they didn't held the punches. Even if it was kid "friendly". Although, I'm not fully talking about Digimon designs here.

Digimon as a whole can't really be compared to Pokémon, ultimately.

[Zapp Branniglenn]

6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

 

 

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“Sinnoh Folk Story 3”

"There once were Pokémon that married people.

There once were people who married Pokémon.

This was a normal thing because long ago people and Pokémon were the same."

 

The English localization dropped the marriage and said "very close" and "sat at the same table" instead. It translates the last sentence as:

"It was a time when there existed no differences to distinguish the two."

 

The final sentences either way allow one to downplay the marrying. Since they can be interpreted to mean humans and Pokemon were the same... phylum? I wouldn't say "species", but "genus" sounds too low scientifically too. But does phylum keep them too separate? "Class" then?

Whatever word you use, it'd still arguably works against notions of Poke-bestiality. If we had Beastman-Who-In-Three-Hundred-Thousand-Years-Evolves-To-Human horn drilling Beastman-Who-In-Three-Hundred-Thousand-Years-Evolves-To-Mew, it isn't such a problem.

 

See I think there's an interesting discussion to be held in the pokemon world about whether humans are actually some species of pokemon. Have we ever seen any non plant life that isn't a species of pokemon? Humans can't perform moves, but they're key to tapping into the potential of these creatures through mega evolution, z-moves, even friendship based evolutions. But when you bring up marriage it's like...who in that world is actually married? I see parent characters, but I don't see no ring on 'em. 

25 minutes ago, Troykv said:

They're Digital Monsters, but many of them were indeed designed to be sexy.

To be fair, a lot of "monsters" in folklore and myths are actually very human-like... with a twist.

Yeah, to emulate the real life "mad women who tempted me to adultery so I had to burn her at the stake". We've all been there.

My issue is when ten year old protagonists command these obviously-humans like cattle. Gross. And when they have human speech and refer to you as "master" ugh. At least call me daddy if the goal is to titillate.

[XRay]

13 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

-But I think there is a problem if Digimon, kid-friendly I assume if it competes with Pokemon, has designs that remind me of SMT. 

I think this mostly has to do with culture. Europe does not give a fuck about kids drinking. Europe and Japan does not care about exposing nudity to kids either. America is A okay with exposing violence to kids.

Personally, I think kids are more mature than adults give them credit for, so I am not concerned about kids drinking, playing GTA, or watching porn. I think it is more important to focus on teaching kids be kind and empathetic than policing their habits if the habit does not harm anyone.

[AnonymousSpeed]

On 10/17/2019 at 12:23 AM, Interdimensional Observer said:

-But I think there is a problem if Digimon, kid-friendly I assume if it competes with Pokemon, has designs that remind me of SMT.

Probably, yeah. There's a word for that.

On 10/17/2019 at 12:43 AM, Glennstavos said:

I see parent characters, but I don't see no ring on 'em.

That's just because of sprite limitations. Probably. People get married in Japan, right?

On 10/17/2019 at 12:52 AM, XRay said:

Personally, I think kids are more mature than adults give them credit for, so I am not concerned about kids drinking, playing GTA, or watching porn. I think it is more important to focus on teaching kids be kind and empathetic than policing their habits if the habit does not harm anyone.

I think the classical line of thinking is that our habits don't live in isolation from the rest of us, so something which is superficially harmless can ultimately have negative effects. Hence the term "corrupting the youth" in discussions of the matter.
Certainly the kind and empathetic parts could deal with a good more emphasis as well, though.

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Honestly the Digimon stuff sounds lame. You guys want to see some real digital monsters?

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Now that's a digital monster.

The Battle Network games actually had really interesting character designs for digital entities. The designers gave themselves a series of rules for those designs, so that even the most humanoid of them didn't boil down to "sexy human." There was a distinct aesthetic to them.

 

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by AnonymousSpeed

[Acacia Sgt]

Can't speak about years ago; but the thing is, Digimon nowadays caters as much to teenagers and young adults as they do to kids. Part of it is due to still wanting to reach out to the now grown-up kids that were the first generation of fans.

Though once again, I don't just mean the Digimon designs.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Acacia Sgt

[DragonFlames]

I've long been of the opinion that Digimon > Pokémon when it comes to creature designs. Waifus and husbandos have nothing to with it, though.
But, since we're on the subject, here are some of my favorite Digimon:

[MisterIceTeaPeach]

Is Digimon the kids version of Shin Megami Tensei?

I know people will laugh at me, but Idk the series at all.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Ingrid Brandl Galatea

[DragonFlames]

12 minutes ago, Ingrid Brandl Galatea said:

Is Digimon the kids version of Shin Megami Tensei?

I know people will laugh at me, but Idk the series at all.

Kind of, but at the same time it's not.

Shin Megami Tensei and Digimon have one thing in common: both have their monsters come from other worlds, but while the monsters in SMT are actual gods and creatures from myths, religion and legends, the creatures in Digimon are digital lifeforms whose looks are only loosely based on those creatures and has made up some of their own stuff, as well.

Story-wise, Shin Megami Tensei deals with a conflict between Law, Chaos and Neutrality in many of its stories. Neutral is anti-extremism and pro-humans, Law is full obedience to God (YHVH) and His angels and complete loss of all individuality, Chaos is survival of the fittest (basically a return to nature) in a world filled with demons, usually perpetuated by Lucifer himself, and complete loss of all kindness and charity. Basically, it teaches you that the Abrahimitic religions are garbage.
Digimon meanwhile deals mostly with themes such as growing up, friendship, responsibility, and loss. You might call it more suited for children as there are some valuable lessons to be gained (one that stuck with me in particular comes from Digimon Tamers (the third and best season): change perspective and what is seen as good and evil will change with it).

For fun, here's what Digimon's depiction of a Seraph (a type of angel) looks like:

And here's SMT's:

Fun fact: the lower one is more accurate to real life depictions of them.

[Pengaius]

On 10/17/2019 at 4:40 AM, XRay said:

but Pokémon monsters are generally cuter.

Bruh, no, behold peak adorable (btw this thing eventually digivolves into Crescemon, one of the hot waifu digimon in the top image, speaking of the top image why the fudge are Lopmon (brown rabbit thing) and Gatomon (the literal cat) on the waifus image, Renamon I understand (because furries) but why the straight up animals?)

 

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by Pengaius
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[XRay]

2 hours ago, Pengaius said:

Bruh, no, behold peak adorable (btw this thing eventually digivolves into Crescemon, one of the hot waifu digimon in the top image, speaking of the top image why the fudge are Lopmon (brown rabbit thing) and Gatomon (the literal cat) on the waifus image, Renamon I understand (because furries) but why the straight up animals?)

 

There are cute Digimon, but as a whole, Pokémon is generally cuter than Digimon on average.

As for Gatomon and Lopmon, maybe there are some really extreme furries that are practically more into bestiality than furry.

[Interdimensional Observer]

3 hours ago, Ingrid Brandl Galatea said:

Is Digimon the kids version of Shin Megami Tensei?

I know people will laugh at me, but Idk the series at all.

Actually, SMT tried to make kid-friendlier games in Devil Children/DemiKids on the Game Boy/Game Boy Advance:

But, it didn't last. This was in the era before Atlus abandoned SMT spinoffs (presumably because development costs), which they more or less did on the 3DS, sticking only to two new games and some enhanced ports.

[MisterIceTeaPeach]

^ How are these games (if you or anyone else has played them)? 

3 hours ago, DragonFlames said:

Kind of, but at the same time it's not.

Shin Megami Tensei and Digimon have one thing in common: both have their monsters come from other worlds, but while the monsters in SMT are actual gods and creatures from myths, religion and legends, the creatures in Digimon are digital lifeforms whose looks are only loosely based on those creatures and has made up some of their own stuff, as well.

Story-wise, Shin Megami Tensei deals with a conflict between Law, Chaos and Neutrality in many of its stories. Neutral is anti-extremism and pro-humans, Law is full obedience to God (YHVH) and His angels and complete loss of all individuality, Chaos is survival of the fittest (basically a return to nature) in a world filled with demons, usually perpetuated by Lucifer himself, and complete loss of all kindness and charity. Basically, it teaches you that the Abrahimitic religions are garbage.
Digimon meanwhile deals mostly with themes such as growing up, friendship, responsibility, and loss. You might call it more suited for children as there are some valuable lessons to be gained (one that stuck with me in particular comes from Digimon Tamers (the third and best season): change perspective and what is seen as good and evil will change with it).

I was mainly referring to the creatures which are apparently similar after all. 

I only have heared of the TV series although never ever watched. From the name similarity I always thought the content would be similar to Pokémon. 

 

PS: I Only watched a few episodes of Pokémon just with the hope of Team Rocket finally catching Pikachu to stuff its mouth. But yeah, they are the evils. Wily E Coyote never was successful in catching the Roadrunner either. 😉

Edited October 17, 2019 by Ingrid Brandl Galatea

[DragonFlames]

49 minutes ago, Ingrid Brandl Galatea said:

I was mainly referring to the creatures which are apparently similar after all. 

I only have heared of the TV series although never ever watched. From the name similarity I always thought the content would be similar to Pokémon.

Digimon and Pokémon's only similarities are their names and the fact that there are creatures in them.

Although between Mega Evolution and a ton of form changes, Pokémon has become ever closer to Digimon as of recent.
Seriously, you can't explain the concept of Digimon evolution better than X and Y did with Mega Evolution.

4 hours ago, Pengaius said:

Bruh, no, behold peak adorable (btw this thing eventually digivolves into Crescemon, one of the hot waifu digimon in the top image, speaking of the top image why the fudge are Lopmon (brown rabbit thing) and Gatomon (the literal cat) on the waifus image, Renamon I understand (because furries) but why the straight up animals?)

Lunamon is adorable, it's true.
Another example of a cute Digimon:

[NinjaMonkey]

4 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

This was in the era before Atlus abandoned SMT spinoffs

Persona is a SMT spin-off and it's still going strong. In fact, Atlus seem to care more about Persona than they do about the main SMT series.

Also, Misty > any of the Digimon female characters.

Edited October 17, 2019 by NinjaMonkey

[Pengaius]

On 10/17/2019 at 5:13 PM, DragonFlames said:

Lunamon is adorable, it's true.
Another example of a cute Digimon:


Pabumon IS cute (though it does remind me of *shudders* Numemon) but how about this good boy

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by Pengaius