Super Smash Bros Universe Mafia

[Bluedoom]

So then you confirm my role as redirector which is something you should have done yesterday since most people didn't believe my claim in the first place because you couldn't verify if i did or didn't.

And you saying iris confused you doesn't stop the fact that you could have just said you got someone else's role than what you think. Especially since I said that I used my ability on you before Iris claimed or said what her ability did.

There was no reason Iris's role should have confused you when asked if i redirected you or not.

My vote still stays on you.

First off, I was offline, thank you. Next, you're asking the rolecop to out himself for nothing, which is stupid because I don't have anything against me in the first place. At least this time I have the excuse of watcher outing so I had to claim fully.

2nd- What are you trying to tell me?

3rd: Yes I did say I 'think' you redirected me- how can I be sure of anything? Especially with all that Brinstar stuff happening to you? You're just mad that I didn't help you out of a wagon and are taking it off on me now.

[Elieson]

@Elieson: I did use my ability night one. I redirected marth to iris. And when asked for verification all day yestarday there was none at all yet he obviously used his role which means it would have been redirected.

Err...

I was referring to his Backup RoleCop role, not the whole redirection thing. I just started typing my post a while ago, took me a bit to finish it up, and you posted a bunch in between.

[Shinori]

I don't remember you ever saying you think you redirected me. And you were offline all of day 2? Really? No you weren't you were online and you posted a few times, your offline argument doesn't apply to the bullshit for you not verifiying my role.

AND IM ASKING YOU TO CLAIM CAUSE YOU ALREADY OUTTED YOURSELF DUMBASS.

I want to see your role pm before you have time to fake bull shit. Which to me it seems like your stalling. If you already claimed what does your role pm change anything about that?

[Bluedoom]

This can't be! King Dedede, the greatest penguin of all times, your idol, has died! You can't believe it, how could something like this ha-- hey, what's that over there right next to his corpse? When nobody is looking, you pick up a book with the title "Detective 101". It may not be the most ethical thing to do, but you decide that you must avenge Dedede's death and take the book with you.

From now on, during the night, you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X - USER, how is it going?". You will start to chat with USER, and following the instructions in the book, be able to get them to tell you their role.

[Shinori]

You're just mad that I didn't help you out of a wagon and are taking it off on me now.

This is obviously the reason I think your scum. Yeah. Totally. This is just bullshit reasoning and not needed in your post and just reeks of scum.

[Bluedoom]

I don't remember you ever saying you think you redirected me. And you were offline all of day 2? Really? No you weren't you were online and you posted a few times, your offline argument doesn't apply to the bullshit for you not verifiying my role.

AND IM ASKING YOU TO CLAIM CAUSE YOU ALREADY OUTTED YOURSELF DUMBASS.

I want to see your role pm before you have time to fake bull shit. Which to me it seems like your stalling. If you already claimed what does your role pm change anything about that?

I was offline when the wagon on you was going on, and I believe you were referring to that.

I just did, dumbass.

Go ahead, see it. Nothing changes, I don't get why you're so jumpy.

[Shinori]

So then who did you expect last night? Since you said night 1 you were redirected to Iris.

[Shinori]

I'm not jumpy I'm aggressive against you because of the holes in your logic.

[Bluedoom]

So then who did you expect last night? Since you said night 1 you were redirected to Iris.

I obviously targeted Prims. That was my intention. I don't know what you're asking me now.

[Subieko]

First off, I was offline, thank you. Next, you're asking the rolecop to out himself for nothing, which is stupid because I don't have anything against me in the first place. At least this time I have the excuse of watcher outing so I had to claim fully.

Again, how are you a rolecop if don't get roles? What is an 'action summary'? Your claim is getting weirder and weirder as you add more pieces to it. If there is some sort of coherent explanation for all this now would be the time to make it.

[Shinori]

Expect was supposed to be inspect. That was an error. Well so you have prim's role, don't out it but tell me on if you think it's town or scum?

[BBM]

So then why didn't you get the role of whomever you targeted? Why only the actions? ##Vote: Marth. You're contradicting yourself and have also managed to make us waste a good chunk of our time when you could have posted this at the very beginning.

[Bluedoom]

Expect was supposed to be inspect. That was an error. Well so you have prim's role, don't out it but tell me on if you think it's town or scum?

He's town.

[Elieson]

You're just mad that I didn't help you out of a wagon and are taking it off on me now.

Marth. This is the same crap you pulled on D1. This is why you had a wagon building on you in the first place.

ARGHHH I want to vote for you so badly, and my arguments on Iris are apparently flawed.

I'll present something better on Iris later on. For now, I have my D1 vote to continue on, and this just reminded me why I was so for it in the first place.

##Unvote (Iris)

##Vote Bluedoom

There. Hopefully the wagon won't die down again, and we can actually do something about this.

[Shinori]

He get's them to tell them his role yet he only gets an action summary supposedly. It's part of the flawed logic.

[Bluedoom]

Using your newly acquired skills, you are told...

During the night, you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X - Heart Swap, USER1 and USER2". During the next night, USER1 will use USER2's role and vice-versa. You leave no trace and neither will realize that they have been switched until it's too late, if at all. The members of the mafia are organized enough to prevent their kill target from being changed though.

That's what I get as results.

[Shinori]

Using this my role has been proven, let that be shown. However marth can't prove his role unless Prims gives him permission to out what he got as info, then prims would have to verify it was true, and he seems against claiming so I doubt that will happen.

[BBM]

So then why didn't you get the role of whomever you targeted? Why only the actions? ##Vote: Marth. You're contradicting yourself and have also managed to make us waste a good chunk of our time when you could have posted this at the very beginning.

Forgot the bold, ##Vote: Marth.

Also, Marth, how is that an action summary? That's the role! The only part other than that in the role PM is the flavour, character name, and alignment, which Kay's role PM says Dedede doesn't get.

[Shinori]

Kay's role pm hinted at the possibility of getting more than just the role, which would means backup would only be able to get the role to make it balanced or make any sense at all.

[Bluedoom]

Ok, maybe I misphrased stuff. I'm sorry. :|

[BBM]

Another thing- a backup rolecop? That's... too strong for my liking. The rolecop/cop is the town's main investigative role, its main way of finding out scum through roles. Allowing the role of the rolecop to essentially come back from the dead seems extremely town-sided to me, in a game which is already slightly town-sided because mafia can only bypass stages when they kill twice.

[Bluedoom]

Another thing- a backup rolecop? That's... too strong for my liking. The rolecop/cop is the town's main investigative role, its main way of finding out scum through roles. Allowing the role of the rolecop to essentially come back from the dead seems extremely town-sided to me, in a game which is already slightly town-sided because mafia can only bypass stages when they kill twice.

That is up to your discretion. You can go ahead, lynch me, and then moan about how you've lynched two town rolecops for reasons I can't understand. Honestly I think I would've seen this coming if I was scum. Really.

[Subieko]

Ok, maybe I misphrased stuff. I'm sorry. :|

Oh. So like...by action summary you meant the bit which tells you your action, aka the role. Okay I think I misinterpreted that stupidly.

But this still would mean that you don't get the name of the player you targeted; I thought that it was standard to get the player's name in the night result, like 'You chat with so-and-so and they tell you their role' or something. SB's report on Folgore Pink included FP's name, although his Prims report did not include Prims' name, and FP's Tracker report on SB included SB's name. We didn't see Tables' actual message so I don't know if that had Scorri's name.

But so far the majority of the investigative roles have had their target's name in their night result. But you are saying you don't get the name. I find that a bit odd.

I'm also concerned that you actually claim my Dedede-is-Piplup's-idol theory is true because I honestly posted it only because I thought it was too silly to be true. And your mysteriousness about your role upgrade--telling us to 'figure it out' and then let people conclude you were a universal backup, which you failed to contradict until I posted my theory, even though I had previously asked you to clarify what your role actually was. It reminds me of what happened on D1--you caused a ruckus, vanished, and then once people started saying it was just a reaction test you came back and said, oh, of course it was. at the time I assumed it was all just a Townie causing shenanigans because you tend to get suspected D1 as Town, but now it's twice in a row that you've done something that caused suspicion and then failed to explain yourself until someone else came up with an explanation.

I'm kicking myself over posting my theory now.

[Shinori]

So many investigation roles. I really don't like it.

[Bluedoom]

I'm also concerned that you actually claim my Dedede-is-Piplup's-idol theory is true because I honestly posted it only because I thought it was too silly to be true. And your mysteriousness about your role upgrade--telling us to 'figure it out' and then let people conclude you were a universal backup, which you failed to contradict until I posted my theory, even though I had previously asked you to clarify what your role actually was. It reminds me of what happened on D1--you caused a ruckus, vanished, and then once people started saying it was just a reaction test you came back and said, oh, of course it was. at the time I assumed it was all just a Townie causing shenanigans because you tend to get suspected D1 as Town, but now it's twice in a row that you've done something that caused suspicion and then failed to explain yourself until someone else came up with an explanation.

I'm kicking myself over posting my theory now.

No really, how many times do I have to tell you guys I don't have that much online time? Its not my fault someone tries and guesses stuff right, I'm trying to strongly imply stuff you know? You iso my posts and I'm screaming rolecop(like my post regarding Prims claiming) and I did give you hint in words: Kay, Dedede, Rolecop.