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I said earlier that a Core lynch would be fine too if that's what we end up doing

I did end up getting some of his posts mixed up with BBM's though

Can you specify which posts of ours you got mixed up? Because if you mistook some of my posts as his and thought he was scummy because of that, you're indirectly accusing me of being scum.

@Aere- All of your reasons for thinking Jedi was scummy are based on him being new to the mafia. You haven't provided an adequate response, IMO, for why you jumped to him being newbscum instead of a newb you had no other opinions on. It feels like you were trying to push an easy mislynch.

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Can you specify which posts of ours you got mixed up? Because if you mistook some of my posts as his and thought he was scummy because of that, you're indirectly accusing me of being scum.

It wasn't anything incredibly important--it's just that I thought Core repeated himself a lot when it was really that you two just had a few of the same opinions (really really similar) and I mistook them as from the same user

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@Aere- All of your reasons for thinking Jedi was scummy are based on him being new to the mafia. You haven't provided an adequate response, IMO, for why you jumped to him being newbscum instead of a newb you had no other opinions on. It feels like you were trying to push an easy mislynch.

I flew right to noobscum because, as I said before, in the event of a mislynch, I'd rather have it as him than a more experienced player. I went right to call him scum because A) I just didn't like his tone, and it was early, and B) I have to scumhunt somewhere. See all the discussion this has made? >.>

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Hi snike, thoughts on current game?

You smell like a trout.

@ Aere: Noted. That does make me feel a bit better about you, actually.

Now, seriously, here's some thoughts on someone not named aere:

Blitz why are you voting me?

Prims whyyyyyy

So Boron, why are you voting Aere again?

Ok so Jedi what do you think we should do? And why have you not voted yet?

I'm pretty sure why is Marth's favorite word. And this is a beginning of a theme.

I take it Ether is vanilla

This is what caused all the confusion, and because of that, he got three votes. Watch the reaction:

I still don't get how I got three votes on me without doing anything

At least I actually tried to do something and then people thought I was scummy.

This time I haven't done anything yet.

Apparently clueless as to how he was suspicious this time.

Last time I checked, no one outright claimed vanilla. Unless that was Ether softclaiming?

Again suggesting that Ether might be a vanilla, which is sort of based off of his own comment.

My big question is why are you guys talking about claiming over and over again? If someone wants to claim they will no matter how much you disapprove it.

Oh look, our friend 'why' is back. Oooh, we missed you, 'why'. What fun we shall have together!

More to the point, he's apparently confused over why people are talking about claiming when I sort of see this discussion as being spawned by his own actions.

I could quote more, but I think the point is that I think Marth is/was feigning confusion, which I feel is scummy.

##Unvote

##Elect: Bluedoom

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Well it means you now how to play mafia so it means you aren't necesarilly noob town. So I look at your words and reactions as to not be a noob. Maybe new to SF mafia, but not entirely new.

Fair enough.

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I'm fine with bluedoom lynch, him and prims are my top two scummy targets as already stated.

Frankly I'm more suspicious of Prims but I'm actually fine with letting him be this cycle for a specific reason. That being said.

##Unvote:

##Vote: Marth

Also thanks for various reactions from people based on my prims vote, specifically Aere's post #352.

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Aside from Snike these wagons are shit. A Marth lynch would be dumb, his ED1 wasn't worse than most of the game's and the only other thing he's getting voted for is having a subjective opinion. Aere is just screamingly obvious town if you read his posts. Are we really lynching somebody for finding a newbie scummy? I have yet to see a decent explanation of why Aere's posts have scum intent.

Core needs to go. Was totally spineless early on in response to BBM's defense, which looks like a lack of actual scumhunting. Didn't commit to a vote in response to my post and the buddying up to Levity + cheerleading on Marth here is just cringeworthy, not to mention him playing both sides of Jedi/Aere so that he can wagonhop Aere later on.

Other people who bug me: The entire Aere wagon is bad aside from Rapier. Gut check on Snike though because his reason for jumping the Aere wagon is totally contrived and makes it seem like he's trying to read inexperienced players as experienced. Marth's vote there is legit. BBM totally dropped off the radar after his Aere vote, need content from him. Ether's slot was ED1 bad btw and Shinori's vote on me is lol, vig should be there. PS Shinori why did you need to address Ether's content now that you're subbed in for him? You know he's town and if you share or disagree with his opinions then that can come out casually in ordinary content posts.

I'm not playing like I usually am because I'm third party I don't feel like playing D1 right now and have been pre-occupied with stuff I actually find fun. If you don't like it then get at me.

In hindsight I didn't write this post very in-depth so if you want me to expand on stuff then ask.

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Snike's 7 posts, with only 4 of them having any substance, don't sit right with me. He states his only reads are Ether, Bizz, and me. Ether, imo, had something going on, and that's not enough to base any votes or feelings off of. I think that leaves her null until her sub comes in. You think Bizz is obvtown, why? He voted Prims (RVS), then shot a hypocritical-prod vote on Rapier for being inactive. Then he votes me, with nothing more to back it up then 'lol your jokeline means something'. No, I've still never been mafia. Sue me for throwing a joke in like half the other players do in their posts. So I find Snike pretty scummy.

Marth looked kinda sketchy in the beginning, because he was so focused on getting all of the votes in that little wagon off of him. I wouldn't exactly take that as scummy, though, I think he was just a bit annoyed at the hastiness of the wagon, but he's been looking better lately. I think BBM is town too, even with his early tunneling on me. I find most earlygame wagons (the one on me now included) somewhat scummy, as I think 1+ wagoners are looking to push a mislynch.

So, ##Vote: Snike. You gotta have a bit more substance than that.

You list stuff about Snike, but I don't get why its incriminating. So he has 3 reads? That's 3 more than none. It sounds like your only reason for this vote is because Snike hasn't been very active, and I think this is weak reasoning. Kaoz and Rapier were also fairly inactive iirc, what exactly makes/made Snike scummier than them?

I know I do this a lot but I also don't like Aere's passive aggressive tone. Can anyone tell me if he normally does that when being pressured?

I still don't like Marth because off the top of my head, I can't remember anything he's said or done. It seems like he's doing his best to fit in.

Bizz and Camtech are still my biggest town reads.

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I haven't been feeling very well the past few days, which is why I haven't been very active.

You still haven't given a reason as to why you think the Aere wagon is bad. The most you said was that people are finding him suspicious just because he had a subjective opinion. And maybe that is why I find him scummy, but there's no REASON for his subjective opinion other than that he didn't like Jedi's tone, and that he'd rather focus on an inexperienced player as opposed to an experienced one.

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on also, addressing Snike's side of the argument against Aere

He said something in particular that bothered me a lot but now I can't remember what it was, unfortunately. It was three pages back though I believe

and this:

Why does it rub you the wrong way? it's not very helpful if you don't explain.

The tone of this post bothers me too and it sounds like an attempt to pry to look helpful when it's kind of another form of fishing and in a way he seems way too concerned about Snike which is a notable interaction between the both of them

##Unvote

##Vite: Core

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I haven't been feeling very well the past few days, which is why I haven't been very active.

You still haven't given a reason as to why you think the Aere wagon is bad. The most you said was that people are finding him suspicious just because he had a subjective opinion. And maybe that is why I find him scummy, but there's no REASON for his subjective opinion other than that he didn't like Jedi's tone, and that he'd rather focus on an inexperienced player as opposed to an experienced one.

BUT THAT WAS MY REASON do you realize how early in the cycle that was?

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[3] Aere: BBM, Rapier, Core

[3] Marth: Manix, Snike, Shinori

[2] Core: Prims, Levity

[2] Snike: Marth, Aere

[1] Manix: Kaoz

[1] Rapier: Blitz

Not Voting: Camtech, Xin Li

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BUT THAT WAS MY REASON do you realize how early in the cycle that was?

Ehhhhh... That IS true. I suppose it felt like it was later because you pursued it for so long kinda like what I did

##Unvote

Going to ISO Core.

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I'm sort of feeling the Marth lynch. Sort of. He agreed with my thoughts on the scum member on the Aerewagon (lol). But, he didn't see Snike's logic in voting me, which even I realize now. Doesn't matter if Snike was wrong or anything, but Marth seems to be keen on defending me.

##Unvote for now.

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wat

quick interjection: we should keep an eye on Cam pretty much for this alone. Also, he's not really doing much aside from defending himself

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