[NOC] Volcanic Anonymafia - Game Over

[Refakitty³]

you know it's hard to be motivated to post shit when people keep misrepping your intentions sigh

[All Might]

Yeah, when nearly your entire scumhunting content involves one person (Pasa) and then you switch your vote to someone else suddenly, a reason is required. Don't make this out to be some quirk peculiar to SF mafia. If your point about Mormegil was indeed an attack on Moeblobs, then okay.

Also, wrt to your case against Moe, votepark is a terrible buzzword and people should stop using it as they do. There is nothing scummy with voting for one person for a majority of the phase. It becomes scummy if people vote someone and then do nothing. But as you yourself admitted, Moe has been attempting to scumhunt, so your argument there is invalid. I acknowledge the rest of your case, but if you don't find Moeblobs scummy despite those reasons you've listed, who do you find scummy? Just Senbon for unvoting and then leaving? If you're going to end your cases with "I still have a neutral read on this person", that doesn't fix the argument against you that you're not scumhunting.

[Refakitty³]

I feel like shit because of rl so bear with me

did you even read what I said? Moeblobs is just trying to find more reasons to keep voting me, regardless of other content as well. That's my problem with the votepark.

I don't think they're scum quite yet because they do have other content but all of that is pinging me to the point where I think it's worth noting

[All Might]

I read that part. I don't see what's scummy about that though, quite honestly, since I find that most of the reasons she has for voting you are reasonable. You pointed out that attacking you for voting Sen while not also attacking Morm was suspicious, and maybe it is, but as I said earlier, that doesn't make your Sen vote any better.

[Refakitty³]

I read that part. I don't see what's scummy about that though, quite honestly, since I find that most of the reasons she has for voting you are reasonable.

...you're missing the point. Keeping a vote on someone while saying "Oh I could vote this other person but I won't for an unexplained reason" is the point. I don't care about the reasons behind the vote on me, but not explaining why I'm worse than someone else is bad.

but as I said earlier, that doesn't make your Sen vote any better.

I don't have a problem with this at all, but unfortunately I'm in no mood to reread the thread right now or even to be posting this so shrug

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

Would you prefer me to come out and make a "hard defense"? Okay, here goes: I have a town read on Moeblobs, at the moment.

I copypasted some lines from my personal thoughts topic, and the language struck you as absolutist? Big deal. All that means is, if I have my way, there's not going to be a Moeblobs lynch today. Also, to my knowledge nobody has ever voted her, outside of potential RVS I may have forgotten, and there's honestly no way I foresee a complete reversal in the final 24 hours left to us today. Does my statement really seem so inaccurate to you?

I didn't know we had only 24 hours left, I thought we still had more time, like, 30 hours left. Sorry, my mistake.

More importantly though, was that seriously what struck you as the most important part of my post? The only thing worth replying to?

No, no, you're misunderstanding me. That was the only part I felt like asking you something about. The rest is fine in my books. It doesn't mean I didn't read or acknowledge your posts and your points.

So why is it that I'm suspicious for making a vote on Sen for similar reasons, but Mormegil gets away with it (and considering they did it after I did)? I want an answer.

I also want to hear what she's got to say about this, even though I believe you're employing the false dictomy fallacy here. You've focused only in a target at a time (Pasa, then Bleach Guy indefinitely), while I gave my attention to Bored, Moeblobs, Pasa, yourself and Bleach Guy.

Space I'm gonna have to disagree with your townread on Moeblobs actually, and here's why real quick:

-Voteparked me most of the phase

Same thing can be said about other players too, what do you have to say about them?

-Is trying to find reasons for their pet case imo (see double standards point above)

You're doing the same thing since you also voted Pasa only to unvote for reasons I'm not very sure about and voteparked on Bleach Guy soon afterwad.

Also I don't have to explicitly state that I feel better about someone in the thread to change my vote don't I? Holy hell I hate SF mafia sometimes

Fine here's my theory: I misrepped Pasa a bit and their content has been stepped up a bit, and so hence I don't think they're scum anymore. Okay?

How do you expect us to know what you think about the other players then? It's vital that we know if your opinions about a player have changed, especially when you're unvoting him, so we don't mistake it for a convenient excuse given later.

[All Might]

Okay, you'll have to wait for Moe to come in and respond to that, then. For now, I feel good with this vote.

[Ochako Uraraka]

I am not going to be very active for tonight because I have other commitments, but after a look my vote remains on bored because A) It looks like they padded the response post by not using quote tags and B) I just can't shake the scumread on them. I'll take a fresh look when I get back, but it's kind of hard due to the fact that a lot of the recent content has been so negative.

[Refakitty³]

so basically I'm effectively going to have been a reads beatstick for when I'm inevitably lynched

oh lovely

I'm getting tired of defending myself from people so I'm not gonna bother anymore, because apparently it's also a Bad Thing to defend oneself when a fair majority ain't doing much and you're one of the only active people to be part of discussion >_>

I will return later with some decisive attacks

[All Might]

Surely you see the difference between someone like Sen or enigma or Paperclip or even Mormegil who isn't scumhunting because they're not posting/barely posting, and someone like you, who isn't scumhunting despite having the most posts in the game? Being an active part of discussion only means something if you're scumhunting in them, and you're not.

If you're going to return later with some actual content, I await your return. If you're just going to whine in them about how other people aren't doing any better than you, then yeah, you probably will be lynched.

[Prims]

Votecount 1.5

Invisible (4) - Moeblobs With Hats, Frank Lucas, Pasadena, Pocket Ace

Flaming Hot (3) - enigma, Space Marine, Bored

Bored (2) - Failbaddon, Flaming Hot

Senbonzakura (2) - Invisible, Mormegil

Pasadena (1) - Brian Kibler

Not Voting: Paperclip, Senbonzakura

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. You have about 20 hours and 5 minutes left in the day.

enigma is still in need of a sub.

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

How am I not scumhunting, Ace?

[Prims]

enigma has been replaced by enigma.

[All Might]

How am I not scumhunting, Ace?

I put you in that category because you have very few posts. I guess someone like Lucas would fit too, but his few posts are generally much more dense than your's. Also, since you're here, what do you have to say about what Invisible pointed out about your Sen vote?

[Estelle]

@Frank: You said that you don't think it's town infighting, so unless you think this is a faked scum slapfight (that is, not genuine) you would think that one is scum and one town. However, you haven't provided a reason for one to be scum instead of both being town, which to me thinks that you are going to get one lynched and then pushed for the other to be lynched.

I don't remember if I mentioned this before, but I dislike how Pasadena's defense often consisted of "Well Invisible is doing this too."

I dislike how Mormegil made a post trying to make actual analysis but kept your RVS vote on Pasadena. Then, he gets on Bored's case then votes Senbon for not posting, I think this is pretty lazy, the paragraph about Senbon feels like an afterthought and I'm not sure what's up with that. In fact, he's been pretty unmemorable, and his posts seem to lack much analysis or content. He gets on Bored's case for a post then goes "But I'm not going to vote you because I think that would be counter productive." What? Then what is the point of your post? I very much dislike this, especially the "How am I not scumhunting" followup.

##Unvote

##Vote: Mormegil

Moeblobs has cited several reasons why Moeblobs can justify a vote on Invisible. Most importantly because Invisible is not actually scumhunting and his votes are either lazy or reactionary to others voting him.

Like I said, I think this is an unfair point on someone when a majority of the day's discussion is people wanting to lynch him, what else is he supposed to talk about if not defending himself and looking for scum on his wagon?

I'm not a huge fan of the Flaming Hot wagon; he's not been around at all and it feels like an easy wagon.

[C. C.]

So this is similar to the reasoning behind my current vote, right? It's slightly better explained, but let's look at something else.

(I'm making the implication that Moeblobs thinks my Sen vote is lazy)

So why is it that I'm suspicious for making a vote on Sen for similar reasons, but Mormegil gets away with it (and considering they did it after I did)? I want an answer.

Moeblobs does not feel the need to call out each and every vote that gets placed down on Sebonzakura. Lack of response from Moeblobs does not mean Moeblobs does not have an acceptance of votes. Moeblobs thinks you are making an assumption created around an absence of information.

All the votes on Sebonzakura are bad, Moeblobs thinks. Yours is bad but made worse by your general lack of scumhunting.

Moeblobs thinks your Acidic Defense^tm is not doing you any good in making yourself look better, and is not doing a good job of making others (as in Only Moeblobs) look worse as is your intention. Does Invisible have opinions on any other player? Invisible only posts about Moeblobs and Pasadena!

(Moeblobs is aware of the seemingly narrow interests of Moeblobs, before you interject, but Moeblobs thinks the case on Invisible is better then the vice versa.)

Space I'm gonna have to disagree with your townread on Moeblobs actually, and here's why real quick:

-Voteparked me most of the phase

-Is trying to find reasons for their pet case imo (see double standards point above)

-The whole thing about "where is your vote going" re Pasa actually smells like "trying to help things along" and something about it is pinging me

-They aren't explaining why I'm a better lynch then Pasa that they harped on about earlier (source)

You get the point. That said I can't argue against that they are trying to scumhunt, so MOeblobs is decidedly neutral to me until something comes up to change my mind in either direction

Invisible assumes I am voteparking but sees to misunderstand that the vote of Moeblobs being on one player all day does not constitute voteparking. Moeblobs has continually updated the reasoning Moeblobs is voting for Invisible throughout the day. Moeblobs is scumhunting! Moeblobs isn't even tunneling! What has Invisible done today?

-Moeblobs is annoyed by empty unvotes because a lack of vote is a lack of stance! Moeblobs believes a player without a stance is a player that can get away with not having a clear opinion! Moeblobs believes the longer you do not have a stance, the scummier you become!

-Why does Moeblobs constantly need to talk about Invisible to give the perception that Moeblobs thinks Invisible is the best lynch choice?

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[All Might]

@Kibler- But he's not even doing that much scumhunting. His first vote, the Bored vote, was pretty much the same as everyone else (didn't vote in RVS, etc.). His Pasadena vote was okay, but he just sort of unvoted randomly and then didn't even say why until recently when he was prodded to do so. His Moeblobs case was okay, but as I said earlier, he kind of just ended with "I still don't find them scum", which means his strongest scumread is just Senbon? If voting for Flaming Hot is "easy", as you say, then isn't voting for Senbon just as easy? They haven't been here for quite a while either. And as you mention in your attack on Mormegil, a Senbon vote is pretty lazy.

Invisible says he'll come back when he's less frustrated and try to produce some more scumhunting. Whether or not I want to lynch him today will depend on the quality of those posts he makes after returning.

@Moeblobs- your spoiler breaks off.

[Rain Nijika]

Speaking of vote parking...

I am not going to be very active for tonight because I have other commitments, but after a look my vote remains on bored because A) It looks like they padded the response post by not using quote tags and B) I just can't shake the scumread on them. I'll take a fresh look when I get back, but it's kind of hard due to the fact that a lot of the recent content has been so negative.

So lets see. Fail's justification is that it's a gut read and that I padded my response by not using quote tags? How is me not using quote tags making it look any longer? It's maybe a little less clear who is talking where, but no one else seemed to have a problem with that. I did it like I did because it allowed me to better respond to each point individually while preventing any confusion as to which part I was responding to. This is one of the worst reasons I've seen for keeping a vote on someone. If you're keeping a vote on me because you still have a gut read on me fine, but don't add other reasons that aren't actually scummy to make your argument sound better.

While you're at it, care to comment on other people? The majority of your posts have been "I'm voting/keeping my vote on Bored for [insert reason here]" You literally only have one other post that's not RVS that even mentions anyone else and that's very vague non-defined posts that don't really give insight into your thoughts.

[Refakitty³]

I got back two hours ago and sat around because I felt super awful, worse than before. I am working on the post now but after looking at stuff more I'm actually far more inclined to say that Moeblobs is scum than neutral, and I'm super likely to move my vote there unless something else looks worse. Holy crap there is so much material I missed it's a goldmine and a half, let me tell you.

[Refakitty³]

[spoiler=not game related]why does my avatar keep breaking >_>

[Refakitty³]

Warning for unsorted wall.

Flaming's post here doesn't strike me as overtly scummy, becuase the Bored votelogic was okay enough (not the best, but that's not the point here) for the time. Noting however their lack of content since and not having reevaulated their vote is looking quite bad. That said it's an easy point to jump on, which is why I think it's still a little bit opportunistic. Wouldn't lynch here yet unless they didn't pick up their game imo.

Something I want to draw attention back to again is that Moeblobs made statements without backing them up to make players look worse. This post had one of them. Also from the same post, I want to note the following:

Thankfully for Moeblobs, the weakest link perceived on Bored's wagon is conveniently also Invisible!

I get an incredibly weird feeling off this statement alone, like Moeblobs was trying to make the situation blown out more in a sense.

You should address points made at you regardless of how early the game is ongoing, or else there will be no progress made towards interacting and finding scum!

And I'm scummy now because I was doing exactly that? Help I don't understand the consistency here.

Saying "I'm town" doesn't mean anything. Only scum know who each other are. It serves no point and actually makes you look less town.

Something I missed earlier, but why do you say that? I'm curious.

Moeblobs did not see a wagon proper formed on Invisible until the vote by Pasadena! Your perception that you had a "fast wagon" is quite incorrect!

You specifically made the wagon bigger not too soon after, so what was your point here, I might ask?

Moeblobs also notes, in light of this, that Pasadena's switch also was very opportunistic!

Why? I don't think I pushed this hard enough or even at all. You didn't explain this either, similar to the other point in order to make Pasa look worse, and even better in a form of passing comment (protip: that shit don't fly with me because it's bad.)

Therefore both of you are bad in this situation.Moeblobs still thinks one of you could be scum, however Moeblobs suspects that one must be town due to the interactions between the two of you. They do not look fabricated.

I've had slapfights with scumbuddies before (past games) that weren't fabricated at all, so what is your point here? Why are you trying to bring the situation down to a 1v1? And furthermore still why are you even attempting to use associative reads without flips? (It's implied because you say one must be scum.)

And then when one of us flips town, you could come back to this later and use Lining Up Lynches to easily push the lynch on the other, which is scummy as fuck.

Basically this reasoning is shit and is scummy as fuck.

EDIT: Now that you have unvoted, Pasadena, where will your vote go next?

I mentioned this comment earlier, but I'll explain again: It's trying to push someone along and appear to be helpful which sometimes scum decides is a good thing to do to look townie. I still don't like it.

You already know what I think of this post by Sen, I don't need to beat a dead horse.

I'm a bit late to the party, so anything I'm about to say regarding Pasadena v. Invisible has been touched on by a couple others for the most part.

You felt the need to point this out... why exactly? What was the point of covering your bases like that?

I actually feel like this isn't intown fighting on a second read through, and that one of Pasadena and Invisible is actually scum. Bear in mind this is early in the phase so this isn't a theory that is set in stone with a surplus amount of evidence, so it may change in the future.

And again with the base covering. It doesn't look right, that's for sure.

For now though, I think that based on Invisible's reactions to the wagon of votes on him, as well as his interactions with Pasadena, it's fair to conclude that he's scum.

"Hi I also don't back up my statements with proper quotes/links"

No can we stop that it's scummy (yes I know I've done it too I don't care)

I already addressed the second part of this post before so yeah.

In fact Moeblobs should really try to focus less on you and look more at Pasadena!

So basically what you're saying is that you should look at someone else... and you do, but yet you keep your vote on me when you have more material on Pasa (to which Pasa called you out on) and yet there's this:

...Pasadena only makes himself look more tempting for Moeblobs to vote now! Moeblobs With Hats must persevere!

Okay this ends here. This is the absolute tipping point. Pasa called you out on having more material and yet you decide to keep your vote on me, the easy way out! You have more of a chance of wriggling yourself out once you push a lynch on me, because it's easier to justify because of my shitty play. You couldn't do that as easily with Pasa, because their play was been good enough to make people raise eyebrows.

I'm just trying to interpret their interactions to scumhunt

Because saying blanket statements without backing them up is interpreting for the town. nopenopenopenope

Another nail in the Moeblobs coffin.

-Moeblobs is annoyed by empty unvotes because a lack of vote is a lack of stance! Moeblobs believes a player without a stance is a player that can get away with not having a clear opinion! Moeblobs believes the longer you do not have a stance, the scummier you become!

So I'm getting shit for voting Sen when they did the exact same fucking thing that you're complaining about here. okay this is ridiculous with double standards

Moeblobs does not feel the need to call out each and every vote that gets placed down on Sebonzakura. Lack of response from Moeblobs does not mean Moeblobs does not have an acceptance of votes. Moeblobs thinks you are making an assumption created around an absence of information.

All the votes on Sebonzakura are bad, Moeblobs thinks. Yours is bad but made worse by your general lack of scumhunting.

Then combined with this is absolutely 100% contradictory and it's even in the same bloody post! Make up your damn mind scumlord because it's only looking worse for you now.

##Unvote

##Vote: Moeblobs

Still wouldn't mind a Sen lynch for lolinactivity/content/unvote and possibly a Frank lynch because he looks self conscious when posting.

[Prims]

Votecount 1.6

Invisible (4) - Moeblobs With Hats, Frank Lucas, Pasadena, Pocket Ace

Flaming Hot (3) - enigma, Space Marine, Bored

Bored (2) - Failbaddon, Flaming Hot

Moeblobs With Hats (1) - Invisible

Mormegil (1) - Brian Kibler

Senbonzakura (1) - Mormegil

Not Voting: Paperclip, Senbonzakura

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. You have about 12 hours and 35 minutes left in the day.

Remember, a majority is required to lynch! I'll figure out what I want to do if town doesn't reach one when it happens, but it won't be pretty.

Edited March 3, 2013 by Priam

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

I put you in that category because you have very few posts. I guess someone like Lucas would fit too, but his few posts are generally much more dense than your's. Also, since you're here, what do you have to say about what Invisible pointed out about your Sen vote?

He's employing a false dictomy falacy here, comparing my case to his. Since that was a question for Moeblobs, I wanted to see how she'd answer before commenting. Now I don't see why I should say the same thing Moeblob said to him about his remark:

All the votes on Sebonzakura are bad, Moeblobs thinks. Yours is bad but made worse by your general lack of scumhunting.

Moeblobs thinks your Acidic Defense^tm is not doing you any good in making yourself look better, and is not doing a good job of making others (as in Only Moeblobs) look worse as is your intention. Does Invisible have opinions on any other player? Invisible only posts about Moeblobs and Pasadena!

(Moeblobs is aware of the seemingly narrow interests of Moeblobs, before you interject, but Moeblobs thinks the case on Invisible is better then the vice versa.)

My case is much different than Invisible's. He only focused on Pasadena and then on Moeblobs, while I gave my attention to Bored, Pasadena, Invisible, Moeblobs and now Senbonzakura, because I want to hear more from him since we still have 20 hours and I want to gather as many opnions as I can in D1. Also, Invisible has been grasping and trying to divert attention from him whenever possible, just like he tried to use me as a scapegoat ("hey look at that guy what do you have to say about him").

I dislike how Mormegil made a post trying to make actual analysis but kept your RVS vote on Pasadena. Then, he gets on Bored's case then votes Senbon for not posting, I think this is pretty lazy, the paragraph about Senbon feels like an afterthought and I'm not sure what's up with that. In fact, he's been pretty unmemorable, and his posts seem to lack much analysis or content. He gets on Bored's case for a post then goes "But I'm not going to vote you because I think that would be counter productive." What? Then what is the point of your post? I very much dislike this, especially the "How am I not scumhunting" followup.

##Unvote

##Vote: Mormegil

I could vote Bored, but as I told you before, that'd be counter-productive, as he believes his excuse is legit. I may not like it, but voteparking on him doesn't seem like a good option when we still have time. Either way, he is not my first lynch choice - that would be Invisible. The same could be said about him: I can make a case and votepark on him now, but what's the point if I can make Bleach Guy appear and see what he thinks?

----

Changing the subject, I don't see a point in voting Flaming Hot, when Prims notified us that he's having legit problems instead of being a lazy player like Senbonzakura.

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

PS: Damn it, I pressed 'add post' before finishing by accident.

Now, Bored's point about Fail is fine. His posts seem only focused on him, and it seems as if he doesn't have any opinions about other players. I want him to say something about this game overall when he's back.

Unvote

##Vote: Fail

[C. C.]

I get an incredibly weird feeling off this statement alone, like Moeblobs was trying to make the situation blown out more in a sense.

Moeblobs thinks your vote was weak. How is that more "blown out" then anything?

And I'm scummy now because I was doing exactly that? Help I don't understand the consistency here.

Moeblobs notes you are(were, now) not scumhunting. Up until exactly this post! Moeblobs also notes you have frightfully little to say on anyone else! Moeblobs says you cannot justify only defending yourself when there are plenty of other people not voting you! Moeblobs is annoyed you took this long to finally hunt scum rather then just defend defend defend!

Something I missed earlier, but why do you say that? I'm curious.

Moeblobs will answer! "I am town" is an inane statement that doesn't mean anything! Using it as defense is pointless! You look less town using the statement rather then an actually defensive one!

You specifically made the wagon bigger not too soon after, so what was your point here, I might ask?

Moeblobs was addressing your comment that your wagon was "faster then Bored's"! Moeblobs has already gone over this! Why do you bring this back up?

Why? I don't think I pushed this hard enough or even at all. You didn't explain this either, similar to the other point in order to make Pasa look worse, and even better in a form of passing comment (protip: that shit don't fly with me because it's bad.)

Maybe Invisible should try reading the posts of Moeblobs that do not contain the word "Invisible"!

I've had slapfights with scumbuddies before (past games) that weren't fabricated at all, so what is your point here? Why are you trying to bring the situation down to a 1v1? And furthermore still why are you even attempting to use associative reads without flips? (It's implied because you say one must be scum.)

And then when one of us flips town, you could come back to this later and use Lining Up Lynches to easily push the lynch on the other, which is scummy as fuck.

Basically this reasoning is shit and is scummy as fuck.

Assumptions! Speculation! Moeblobs With Tinfoil Hats!

How is this scummy, Moeblobs asks? Moeblobs thought thinks you are both scummy, but Moeblobs does not think that was a scum-scum slapfight! Moeblobs thinks that scum would be more familiar with eachother and not make such strong attacks with eachother in thread! Scumbuddies would understand eachother better in thread instead of getting into yelling matches! Moeblobs thinks there is no way both of you could be sharing a quicktopic! Moeblobs thinks you are dumb for making up all that "what could happen" speculationand use it as ammo against Moeblobs! Convict Moeblobs of things Moeblobs has actually said!

I mentioned this comment earlier, but I'll explain again: It's trying to push someone along and appear to be helpful which sometimes scum decides is a good thing to do to look townie. I still don't like it.

You already know what I think of this post by Sen, I don't need to beat a dead horse.

Moeblobs is not helping! Moeblobs is critical of the empty unvote!

So basically what you're saying is that you should look at someone else... and you do, but yet you keep your vote on me when you have more material on Pasa (to which Pasa called you out on) and yet there's this:

Okay this ends here. This is the absolute tipping point. Pasa called you out on having more material and yet you decide to keep your vote on me, the easy way out! You have more of a chance of wriggling yourself out once you push a lynch on me, because it's easier to justify because of my shitty play. You couldn't do that as easily with Pasa, because their play was been good enough to make people raise eyebrows.

Moeblobs will say this exactly one time so it is very clear you understand.

LESS MATERIAL DOES NOT MEAN A LESS ACUTE SCUMREAD.

MOEBLOBS DOES NOT NEED TO MENTION YOU IN EVERY SINGLE POST TO HAVE A STRONGER SCUMREAD ON YOU.

Moeblobs is not scum "because she hunted down a scum and then also talked about other players". Invisible is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!

Because saying blanket statements without backing them up is interpreting for the town. nopenopenopenope

Another nail in the Moeblobs coffin.

?????

So I'm getting shit for voting Sen when they did the exact same fucking thing that you're complaining about here. okay this is ridiculous with double standards

From the depths of the Eight Hundred Forty Three Planes Of Adorableness, Moeblobs With Hats rises to the challenge once again!

Moeblobs has been made, however, quite worrisome over Sebonzakura's empty unvote (from an RVS vote), and notes that after the unvote Sebonzakura came in again four hours later with nothing new to add but an Edit By Way Of Post.

Moeblobs is highly disappointed and is eager to view fresh content from Sebonzakura.

Moeblobs has no idea what you are talking about. Moelobs thinks the Sebonzakura vote is lazy because he has only made one unvote post and done nothing else. Sebonzakura is an easy vote that needs very little reasoning to justify. No scumhunting needed, no scumhunting done. Perfect for a scum player such as yourself.

Moeblobs says: hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats off to you! Time to put rope on Invisible!