Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 oh god... (i was busy playing card games so i didn't answer faster) I wanted to kill nighty because if I were mafia persuator I would think "hmm if I now persuade someone, he most likely is not lynched so I should totally persuade people to lynch my teammate" Last thing I would do is run the vote. in most cases it is true, but then again, they/you may have thought of how Sho/you can do met on meta on meat and make us lynch Nightmare(honestly, I see don't trust Nightmare so I don't even like this logic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Sho is NEVER what he acts like. Im not perverted nerdy 17 years old high school student who is more than slightly emo and totally a jerk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'm going to say that I think the 'Sho the mafia persuader' idea is ridiculous. I honestly don't understand Rapier's thought process. I think I do(maybe cause I am crazy?) well, I thought like that in a mafia game and got lynched Day 2 as the cop. So, domu, you might want to put that thought in the back of your mind for now(don't forget about it though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Im not perverted nerdy 17 years old high school student who is more than slightly emo and totally a jerk? I never said you were, I was talking about roles in mafia games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Do you think 13th is town/mafia/fool? Most likely town, just being very 13th. Probably not fool. Do you think 13th is the Persuader? Possible, but not entirely sure. If not, who do you think is the Persuader? No idea. Who do you think is most suspicious now? Sho's idea of lynching me being helpful is a bit...dubious, to say the least. He's making it seem far, far more effective than it really is, and is pushing hard for his idea to be accepted. I'm not sure what to think about him not actually voting me. If it's 13th, who do you think is next most suspicious? Whoop. Who do you think is least suspicious? Everyone else. They all look the same to me at this point. Give me more time. Do you think there is a Sniper? I can't really remember any character from Ryuuki who could be a Sniper (aka no, I don't think there is one). List everyone in order of how likely they are to be town-aligned. Like I said up there, I don't really have any idea who is town and who is not at this point, except maybe 13th. There's a whole lot to talk about right now. Not enough for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Thanks for posting, Nightmare. That's still... kinda not much, but at least it's understandable. Im not perverted nerdy 17 years old high school student who is more than slightly emo and totally a jerk? Aha! You admit to being perverted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Do you think 13th is town/mafia/fool? I can't tell(cause I am confused) Do you think 13th is the Persuader? not anymore If not, who do you think is the Persuader? some mafia guy(I think it is Nightmare) Who do you think is most suspicious now? Nightmare hasn't done anything about the 13thh situation If it's 13th, who do you think is next most suspicious? Who do you think is least suspicious? Straw and Kay and Do you think there is a Sniper? what is a sniper role? List everyone in order of how likely they are to be town-aligned. 1. Blitz 2. Strawman 3. Kay 4. JB 5. Bizz 6. Iris 7. Core 8. Sho 9. Rapier 10. Rein 11. 13th 12. eclipse 13. Shinori 14. Nightmare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Nightmare is so inactive and vague... That's giving me creeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Thanks for posting, Nightmare. That's still... kinda not much, but at least it's understandable. I'm glad someone understands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Thanks for posting, Nightmare. That's still... kinda not much, but at least it's understandable. Aha! You admit to being perverted! I think he admitted that a long time ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Nightmare is so inactive and vague... That's giving me creeps. Points you believe are vague? You play Ace Attorney, right? Press me, and I might expound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Is there anyone here who volunteers to do a voteall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Nightmare played like this in FE4 mafia. Coincidentally, he was mafia in that game. I think he's being very natural though and I still get town vibes from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Points you believe are vague? You play Ace Attorney, right? Press me, and I might expound. I think it is creepy that you used this inactivity strategy to win in FE4 mafia AS mafia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Aha! You admit to being perverted! All men are pervets, but it's up to them to admit it or not! Or that's what Keiichi says. Also, when I thought I had my most awesome Phoenix Wright-ish moment agaisnt Sho, everything collapses. Shit. >: Sho is NEVER what he acts like. I'm going to say that I think the 'Sho the mafia persuader' idea is ridiculous. I honestly don't understand Rapier's thought process. My version of the facts: - Sho took the opportunity to make a case agaisnt Nightmare (assuming Sho's mafia). He proceeded to use his ability on him for the sake of making lemonade with his lemon, and then vote while giving that weak and stupid excuse we're seeing now although Sho is everything but stupid. As he saw that things weren't going on his way, he decided to give up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I think it is creepy that you used this inactivity strategy to win in FE4 mafia AS mafia The best part about that is that I never intended to be inactive or use inactivity as a strategy. Everything just...happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 How on earth was I sheeping/tunneling? I'm glad you think I'm doing something useful, I suppose, but there are people who were sheeping a lot more than that. Just taking note of your actions at the beginning. You added that vote on to Eclipse, then once I voted for Rapier you hopped on to that in a time span of less than 10 minutes. But then after just one post from Rapier, iirc, you unvoted. The fact that you didn't really seem to be doing much of your own scum hunting or pressuring seems noteworthy. Care to explain why my idea is ridiculous at least? You seem to be saying "Sho wants to lynch Nightmare. The persuader wants Rein to vote for Nightmare. Therefore Sho must be the persuader." First off, this is just plain bad logic by itself. There is nothing that ties those two actions together. Next, we have a persuader claim from 13th that "explains" why he persuaded Rein to vote Nightmare. Is this claim 100% for sure believable? No way. But to ignore it and be so set in a hypothetical situation that doesn't even take this claim into account is also bad logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The best part about that is that I never intended to be inactive or use inactivity as a strategy. Everything just...happened. You aren't inactive... You just don't talk a lot and act too vaguely. Well, that's just you, I'm running around like a crazy dog chasing everything I see odd or interesting enough. So I don't really blame you for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Just taking note of your actions at the beginning. You added that vote on to Eclipse, then once I voted for Rapier you hopped on to that in a time span of less than 10 minutes. But then after just one post from Rapier, iirc, you unvoted. The fact that you didn't really seem to be doing much of your own scum hunting or pressuring seems noteworthy. You seem to be saying "Sho wants to lynch Nightmare. The persuader wants Rein to vote for Nightmare. Therefore Sho must be the persuader." First off, this is just plain bad logic by itself. There is nothing that ties those two actions together. Next, we have a persuader claim from 13th that "explains" why he persuaded Rein to vote Nightmare. Is this claim 100% for sure believable? No way. But to ignore it and be so set in a hypothetical situation that doesn't even take this claim into account is also bad logic. Strawman gets +5 townpoints. I agree with everything here. I believe that 13th is a persuader. It doesn't make sense for there to be two persuaders and for everything else to fall into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The best part about that is that I never intended to be inactive or use inactivity as a strategy. Everything just...happened. I guess I will just have to try my best from letting it "just...happen" in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Strawman gets +5 townpoints. I agree with everything here. I believe that 13th is a persuader. It doesn't make sense for there to be two persuaders and for everything else to fall into place. Unless Sho and 13th are both mafia and they are covering one another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You seem to be saying "Sho wants to lynch Nightmare. The persuader wants Rein to vote for Nightmare. Therefore Sho must be the persuader." First off, this is just plain bad logic by itself. There is nothing that ties those two actions together. Next, we have a persuader claim from 13th that "explains" why he persuaded Rein to vote Nightmare. Is this claim 100% for sure believable? No way. But to ignore it and be so set in a hypothetical situation that doesn't even take this claim into account is also bad logic. You're right about the last part. However, I don't see how there's nothing that ties those two actions together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Unless Sho and 13th are both mafia and they are covering one another Sho is pushing for a 13th lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I think he admitted that a long time ago I prefer the term "public secret" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Sho is pushing for a 13th lynch. IIRC, sho was pushing for a Nightmare lynch, he may have switched to make himself look good(I am talking about completely hypothetical situations here with no real basis whatsoever) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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