[NOC] Volcanic Anonymafia - Game Over

[Kamina]

My biggest suspicions are enigma and Mormegil: the former hasn't really done much of note, and I still think voting Mormegil after Senbon had already been inactivity modkilled and had to be asked to vote is suspicious. Mormegil didn't seem to really "commit" to his scum reads in the past day phases and seems defensive.

I realize it doesn't look great, but there is not a whole lot I could do. I hadn't been around earlier, and probably if I hadn't voted, people would harass me about how I didn't place a vote on anyone. May as well vote and at least demonstrate that I consider Morm worth voting, if it doesn't matter either way.

If scum want to quickhammer town!Morm, they'd just be offering up an easy pick for the vengeful shot. I don't think we need to worry about that. More important is that we don't get a repeat of D1 where we've got a few hours left and no majority.

You have a point, when I think about it. And I don't want to risk getting distracted and forgetting I haven't voted yet.

##Snipe: Mormegil

Also, Enigma thinks Moeblobs should be replying to his post.

[Prims]

Votecount 3.3

Mormegil (5) - Pocket Ace, Frank Lucas, Failbaddon, Flaming Hot, enigma (L-1!)

Frank Lucas (3) - Bored, Paperclip, Moeblobs With Hats

Enigma (2) - Mormegil, Pasadena

Not Voting: None!

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. You have about 19 hours left in the day.

Mormegil is at L-1!

[Marisa Kirisame]

I know I'm terrible and I'm going to have to be terrible until tonight

welp

[C. C.]

Pasadena do you have any opinions on Frank? Moeblobs With Hats notes you haven't had much to say about him, despite him being one of only three wagons today.

[C. C.]

Oh wait you said you'd reread him, how did Moeblobs forget you posted that? Blahb, nevermind.

[Ochako Uraraka]

Sorry Fail, missed that you'd specifically asked me anything. Let me go look at that.

Well... actually, I'm not sure what you're asking me. There's the point about my defense being bad, which I'll admit it's not my best defense ever, but I'm not sure what else there is to say. i did something I don't consider scummy and people jumped on me. What else is there for me to say? That I should have put a vote down? Maybe I should have but I didn't. I can't change that now.

Then there's the bit where you ask someone to explain the case on Frank. If you look here, this is my case. I felt like it was fairly well explained, but I might be wrong. If you still have more questions after that, I can answer them more.

If there are more questions you have for me that I missed, please let me know.

You perceived my question correctly.

That is fair enough, you keep your previous stance regarding your D1 actions, and I have no other suspicion over you as far as it goes.

Thanks for the explanation on the Frank case, there are some points I skipped out from his brief appearances in D1.

I can't say I bring anything new from reading Frank, there is his suspicious actions and thoughts on 1v1s, such as the Invisible and Pasadena argument. There is his lack of real scumhunting, and there is his eternal votepark and focus on Mormegil since Day 2. I can see the points, but I can't find anything I can add or anything that stands out more than my current read on Mormegil (whom seems to have disappeared). I am okay with his wagon, and wouldn't mind switching my vote if town agrees he's the favored lynch. But as it stands, I believe have more reason to keep my vote on Mormegil.

Frank, I've seen your defences. Though, is there anyone you find suspicious enough to have a case on, other than Mormegil?

[Prims]

6 hours remain.

[Shiki Ryougi]

Okay, so I had a quick reread of the thread and Frank Lucas specifically. Most of what pings me the wrong way about him is actually his attitude on D1, which he did explain but still irks me. He says that Invisible and my arguing doesn't sound like in-town fighting and that Invisible is more likely than me to be scum. Later says that this line of reasoning kinda sucks. I find it odd that he never took an actual stance on me. Also, he seems to be scum hunting less in recent posts and mostly answering questions ... which is good and all but doesn't really tell us who you think is scum and why.

I see that Mormegil is at L-1. Like I said, I have no problems with this lynch and I will most likely be around at phase deadline to hammer if needed.

[Rain Nijika]

Is there a reason everyone is ignoring the blatant misrepresentation by Frank of my case on him?

Also I will hammer if need be.

[Marisa Kirisame]

I am really annoyed at myself right now

That's the problem I have with him, he voted Invisible only because "his emotions made him do it by impulse". Besides, if you think he wouldn't get any negative attention for it, you should read Moeblobs with Hats' (I need a macro for that name, honestly) posts more. I'm giving him credit because I can see Pasadena is angry and didn't do anything bad before.

It's one thing to call emotion a null tell, but it's another kettle of fish altogether to disregard scummy play just because of emotion.

Working off the Space Marine NK, I have reason to believe that he was on to something. Taking a look at his reads, he found Mormegil, Flaming Hot, and Failbaddon scummy. I stated what I didn't like about FH earlier, but he hasn't really responded since forever ago so I'll hold off on him for now, and I don't know much about the Fail case except for what I read about from these last couple posts before me. Gonna talk about Mormegil in a sec.

Also trying to look into Moeblobs and his interactions a bit more. His interactions with Pasadena could just be intown fighting, but the fact that his interactions with Brian are leaning the same way, I'm starting to wonder if he's actually scum or just a little irritated town. Need to read into this better.

Also not liking Mormegil anyway because of his pretty bad Invisible vote (really, you don't think that Invisible defended himself?), he jumped around his votes a lot as well (including a weird prod vote on Senbonzakura AFTER he had already attacked other players, so it came out of nowhere basically). He attacked Bored for a while but never voted him...why? His scumhunting is mostly just little comments, and when he starts to make a little bit of a point on someone he doesn't push it and kinda backs away. Looks oddly hesitant. Hence, for now, I'll place my vote here.

##Vote Mormegil

Back to the streets I go, selling that Blue Magic.

What happened to one of Invisible and Pasa being scum? Invisible flipped, and now you say that Pasa has been in-town fighting?

Ok so I did finish reading but some details flew over my head. Either way I'm still happy with a Frank lynch and less so about Pasa. I'm not really sure about Morm at all. I have some townreads and stuff but I'd prefer to keep them to myself unless I feel the need to reveal them.

[Ochako Uraraka]

Is there a reason everyone is ignoring the blatant misrepresentation by Frank of my case on him?

Also I will hammer if need be.

Actually, I misunderstood his whole defence myself. His points on Moe is quite weak as well and he hasn't done anything of note in manner of showing us reads. Hrmh.

While I'd appreciate more time to read into Frank and say something more conclusive, I'd be okay with his lynch as well, if activity somehow kicks in. I'd like to say I'm confident enough on either Morm/Frank as it stands.

[All Might]

Morm, if you're town, you should shoot Frank IMO.

However, he hasn't posted in a while, which makes me think he's probably given up, so probably scum. There are like <2.5 hours and I don't think the lynch is changing anyways, so IMO we should just hammer and have done with it instead of dragging on the phase and hammering with 10 minutes left. Not much seems to be happening anyways.

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

Because that wasn't how you listed your reasons. You said you wanted to see reasoning and reads from him, and that he should have things to post despite being busy, making it look like an inactivity prod. So, you could say that you hadn't wanted him lynched, and you planned to take your vote off once he posted more.

I did vote for my top scumread. That post of yours caused you to become my top scumread, instead of Brian. And this "you suspected someone else more than me earlier in the game, you can't vote for me!" argument isn't really helping your case, IMO.

I'd take my vote off if his content made me happier. Also, you didn't say I was your top scumread, hence why I found it strange that you were voting me over Kibler and not even making a case agaisnt him.

I wouldn't mind keeping my vote on you, because you replied my post with your own interpretation and then revealed suddenly that I was your top scumread. It's not something I like, but I can't do anything but try to stay alive.

Unvote

##Vote: Frank Lucas

Because, obviously, he's the second biggest wagon. Not that he did much aside from tunnel on me for D2 and D3, anyway, so I'm not opposed to this lynch anyhow.

Also Fail, why are you letting town decide what you're going to do? Vote one of us, but don't let them sway your choice. You don't show much confidence here, as you instead opt for a stance that might switch at anytime (unless I'm reading you badly here).

[Prims]

Votecount 3.4

Mormegil (5) - Pocket Ace, Frank Lucas, Failbaddon, Flaming Hot, enigma (L-1!)

Frank Lucas (4) - Bored, Paperclip, Moeblobs With Hats, Mormegil

Enigma (1) - Pasadena

Not Voting: None!

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. You have about 2 hours and 10 minutes left in the day.

Mormegil is at L-1!

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

Morm, if you're town, you should shoot Frank IMO.

However, he hasn't posted in a while, which makes me think he's probably given up, so probably scum. There are like <2.5 hours and I don't think the lynch is changing anyways, so IMO we should just hammer and have done with it instead of dragging on the phase and hammering with 10 minutes left. Not much seems to be happening anyways.

I will do so. I see his lazying around with giving slight comments on D3 as a certainty from his part that I'll be lynched anyway, so at least I'll bring him down with me (or vice-versa, I bet, if he were on my position right now).

[Prims]

Flaming Hot and Frank Lucas have been prodded. Again.

[All Might]

Morm, if you're town, you should shoot Frank IMO.

However, he hasn't posted in a while, which makes me think he's probably given up, so probably scum. There are like <2.5 hours and I don't think the lynch is changing anyways, so IMO we should just hammer and have done with it instead of dragging on the phase and hammering with 10 minutes left. Not much seems to be happening anyways.

Well, the "he" here was referring to you, Morm. I thought you'd given up but I guess not. I guess we'll see if this is last minute WIFOM trying to get us to switch or sincerity.

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

Honestly, I don't even know what WIFOM is. But I can understand from context.

It seems I'll most likely be lynched, so I'd like to point out for Pocket and Enigma (for reasons I stated before), Fail (his attitude only, for saying he'll switch my vote just as easily) and Pasa (who might be trying to not get associated with my lynch from not voting me, but then again, he might be just late). That's it now.

[Marisa Kirisame]

Any objections to me hammering?

[Nemu Kurotsuchi]

I want to wait for Pasa, but I believe it's clear that he'll hammer me anyway...

[Aizen]

@Bored: There's two main problems with your case here: 1) When I voted Invisible, I was actually scumhunting at the time but I've been busy last two phases with irl stuff so I haven't been able to scumhunt as often and 2) Not scumhunting = scummy regardless of who says it.

My bad, I thought we were talking about D2 where I voted for him originally and along with Brian started the Morm wagon. Tbh I completely forgot about his D1 vote since most of D1 was about Invisible and Pasadena.

I actually did focus on SM's other reads, but out of them I've found Morm and Fail the scummiest. Since Fail's new sub I dropped that scumread, and I already mentioned Flaming Hot before. Senbonzakura flipped town. So yeah...not sure what I'm missing here?

All in all, there was literally no misrep of your case, and I believe I satisfactorily answered all your points.

@Paperclip: Nice avoiding my little rebuttal and just saying "yeah I'm gonna park my vote on Frank still just because". And for the last fricking time I already stated that I changed my mind about that damn theory! Are we not allowed to change our minds in mafia anymore? I'm honestly thinking of just shooting you if I end up getting lynched because of your shitty vote park.

So yeah scumreads right now would be Morm and Paperclip (reasons stated), and I liked the case on enigma and am kinda surprised more people didn't pick up on it, and Flaming Hot is a weaker read right now. Obviously one of these reads is wrong, and chances are it's one of the latter two. Everyone else is neutral/town of course.

[Marisa Kirisame]

##Unvote

##Vote: Moremegil

I wouldn't care if I died Frank.

[Prims]

HAMMER SHUT UP

[Prims]

Night 3

Mormegil (6) - Pocket Ace, Frank Lucas, Failbaddon, Flaming Hot, enigma, Paperclip (LYNCH!)

Frank Lucas (3) - Bored, Moeblobs With Hats, Mormegil

Enigma (1) - Pasadena

Not Voting: None!

A Mormegil broke.

Mormegil - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 3

Placated by the scum lynch, the volcano gods decided to stall another day before giving the lynch target a vengekill. "cool mafia game guys" they said, before returning to the mountains for a lava bath.

It is now N3. You have until 5:30 PM on Tuesday, March 12th (Pacific Standard Time) to send in your actions.

[Prims]

Day 4

No member of the village truly knew what enigma was or where it had come from. They vaguely recalled its presence throughout the early phases of the game, drifting in and out of the village to murmur vague sentences perhaps resembling scumhunting. Even so, its contributions were few, and after yet another disappearance, it seemed as if the, well, enigmatic player's existence was little but a dream. By the time the news of its death arrived, town felt as if there was nothing from the beginning, too, and only muttered "what, you mean the cause of death wasn't from hitting modkill timer yesterday?"

enigma - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 3

Unfortunately, the mysterious stranger's vanishing also caused a rupture in space-time which irritated the volcano gods and unleashed their rage upon the town again. Better lynch some scum!

It is now D4. You have until 6:30 PM on Thursday, March 15th (Pacific Standard Time) to decide on a lynch. With 8 alive, it takes 5 to hammer. Should a town-aligned player be lynched today, they must ##Kill another player after hammer, taking that player down with them.

Edited March 13, 2013 by Priam