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I think a key thing I'd like to add just in case, is that people aren't mad at Ephraim winning here, as far as I can tell anyway. If anything, most people love Ephraim, him winning is far from the worst thing that could happen. No, people are mad that Marth lost entirely because of an honestly pretty dumb rule. There's actually barely a reason to compare the two imo. The interesting thing is, if they do end up giving Marth (sizeable) compensation, then as a result this is the best possible outcome right here. If Marth straight up won, they would have had no reason to give Ephraim anything to appease the fanbase. Basically it's more content for us, maybe. I was kinda worried someone would make this argument, to be frank. You're not wrong, it's not strictly labelled as a popularity contest(though if it only was about the tops like you're saying, there'd be no reason to give us the entire list of results, and farfetched heroes happened too). I just think it's reasonable to consider it as one.

I mean, it is a popularity contest. Rigged as it is, even when many people use it to make their voice heard on characters that they want in the game, at the end of the day it's still a franchise-wide popularity contest with rewards for the top 2 of each gender. Whether it's good or bad doesn't change what it is. And while what you're bringing up is closer to what I'd call an unfair advantage than in your last post, it doesn't come close to having to essentially get 50% more votes than your opposition because a large portion of them will be wasted on a second version. I agree that basic spite when facing loss in a competition is as far as it should go, but this is not the issue here. I do wonder now that I've reflected on it a bit more, since it's also the top 5 and there are always 5 characters on these. Though they didn't do that last time, the ones featured were just random popular characters. I think what's important is that at this point, they have a choice. They could go either way.

From 5th to 2nd. That being said, she was under Azura who only got 20k in the end, and now here she is at 29k. Meaning she got at least a third of her votes after the midterm. It's even more jarring when looking at Micaiah, who was only one spot lower and ends up with ~half as many votes. I mean, it'd be cool if they did anything like that, but they really don't have to. The heroes you have have no relevance to the story whatsoever, outside of the main characters of course. So we can have Veronica fight Veronica without it needing to make a lick of sense.

I don't think you cheated, it's on them for letting people do that, and for all we know they might be completely fine with it. Kinda falls in line with the concept of Heroes, too; the game is as fair as you make it, assuming you have money/time to spare in the first place of course. I do agree that it makes things considerably less interesting and enjoyable though. Like, right now I can't help but wonder how much it helped Veronica, what % of her votes come from that, etc, instead of being amazed that she somehow won fair and square.

See the difference is, Ephraim being a meme and Marth being in more games aren't unfair advantages. Popularity is popularity. This poll is based on that, not on merit. Marth's votes being divided on the other hand, is an arbitrary rule. Especially since the removal of Masked Lucina and RD Ike proved that they don't consider different versions of the same character to be distinct entities when it comes to getting a CYL unit spot. Furthermore, I think I can safely say that very few of the voters would refuse a SD Marth winning over a FE3 one. Marth as a character has garnered more votes than Ephraim, yet he lost. No cherrypicking involved in being able to see that it's wrong in some way. That being said you're right, the rules are the rules, and it would suck for Ephraim to be demoted now. Also a lot of multiple accounts voting happened, they should really do something about that next time. There's no point if some people have 7 votes over a week, and others 350. Then again, maybe they don't care.

Aaaand Hicks is our new Thracia underdog, placing third from last above Garth and Blume, who are unplayable vilains. With 9 votes. Glade garnered roughly 30 times as many votes as last time, which... is okay.

True.

Reposting because most people probably won't see my edit, but they might really have gone the three winners route on the male side of things: https://events.fire-emblem-heroes.com/vote2

I assumed there'd be more myself, I mean, considering heroes's huge success had yet to happen last time. Interesting that it's pretty much the same. As for combined Marth, yeah, he's way above Ephraim. We'll see if anything happens. Edit: Interestingly, 5 heroes appear on the result page... the four winners and Marth. Doesn't seem like a coincidence. https://events.fire-emblem-heroes.com/vote2

Crazy how close the girls side is. And neither Camilla nor Eirika actually made it. Can't say I expected any of that...

I'd say Sirius makes a lot of sense considering all he's been through. I'd love a post-darksphere possession Hardin simply named Coyote, but that's probably not happening for obvious reasons. For Jugdral, Forseti possessed Lewyn, King Trabant, Emperor Arvis, definitely post-FE5 Evayle, maybe Ishtar and Galzus... a lot to choose from there. Not really up for any of the crusaders because of how little we know about them individually. Master Knight Leif is also an interesting case. He doesn't really have the feats, but the implications of him reaching that class are pretty big. Elibe feels like it's on a smaller scale somehow, so it's a bit more difficult. Niime and FE6!Karel would make a lot of sense. I'm iffy on King/Master Lord Roy(even though I'd love it), but he did win a continent-scale war, so it could work. Nothing much to say about Magvel, mostly because it's been a while. I think King Ephraim makes sense. Tellius has the Laguz kings, possibly Renning and Tauroneo, Greil, maybe Volke. Altina would be really neat. Also if she and Deghinsea can get a spot, and even though I had to look up his name, Soan qualifies as well. Ashnard is a difficult case. As for Micaiah, another case where I'd love that, but in terms of feats I think she comes short. Awakening could have Future Past!Lucina. Maybe. Priam is obvious and as a result so is Walhart, who was a strong candidate anyway. Post-credit Robin could be fun. RNG-Goddess Anna is logical. Fates has, er... pre-possession Garon, the usual suspects Xander and Ryoma, probably Queen Corrin.

Can't say for sure of course, but the chance that their lead is small enough that they could be overtaken is pretty low. Which applies to the number 2s as well, to an extent.

Couldn't help myself and threw in a FE4 Ced and Mareeta vote before I gave it all to Glade for the remainder of the week. But then again I couldn't not do it, especially with how little support they seem to be getting. Voted without an account so I have no screenshot to show.

Since we're all going around telling people who they should vote for, y'all need to be made aware that RoyGlade is the actual right choice. Because think about it. These polls have a random vote feature as their homepage. This means that it was very likely used quite a bit, and that the lower you get in the rankings, the more the totals are comprised of random votes. In other words, Glade got rng screwed. Literally. We can right that wrong, so let's do that.

Right, sorry, getting my timezones mixed up here.

Honestly, she was released during the fourth day, right? I mean we'll see how close it ends up being, but if they really meant to sabotage Eirika, they should have done so earlier. Logically, most casual voters came for the first, second, maybe third day and then forgot about it, and as such, most votes were already in by the time of her inclusion. And this could have put more spotlight on her as well. Again if Camilla ends up with a, idk, lower than 2k lead(assuming nobody reaches 100k total), I'll give you that maybe things could have been different, but otherwise, eh.

Whelp, guess Marth voters indeed didn't get the memo. C'm'on, guys! I was hoping for more upsets(that being said, why is Loki there exactly? Don't answer that). Interestingly, Micaiah is still doing really good despite just being added to the game, and somehow Tharja did worse than we all expected. Also, is that Thracia Leaf of FE4 Leaf? That's his 4 sprite.

Well now I'm curious. What does she say exactly?

Let's not act like the new FE isn't getting a few voluptuous ladies of its own. It's a series staple at this point. Also I guess I'd appreciate more Kagerou love dangit. Plus Orochi if it can finally bring scrolls to the party; then again Rhajat was not enough, so...

No, I meant, maybe a new Ephraim is already on the way. Or not. Edit: As for what they'd do next outside of that... apart from seasonal event banners, I guess they'll go in on Radiant Dawn a bit more? That's the only game left with a mostly unused roster outside of 4 and 5, which they might be holding back for the time when their remakes come... if that ever happens.

Bartre because Fir, Klein because Clarine(he was on the siblings banner but Clarine was already in the game, that's also the original reason for Reinhardt, a need for characters with a sibling). Hawkeye because he's... unique, perhaps? Not sure.

That being said, what would "logically" come after an all-female new sacred stones banner? True, there's still room for a new "closer to canon" version of her. That much didn't change, for sure. I'd find it silly only because of the "just got a new version" thing.

At this point she can be anything really. Mounted units being able to use dark magic is unheard of outside of glitches and shadowgift, afaik. Besides, they've pretty must established that sky is the limit in heroes as far as who can use what weapon type.

Depends on how many people actually vote every day instead of just the first two or three, and how many of them still want more Eirika. If multiple versions don't stop people from voting Camilla/Tharja... There's even the crowd that could go "oh hey, that Eirika character is cool, I'll vote for her too!" Though her winning would be pretty silly now.

We don't really know that Ike didn't have that luxury, he just didn't need it. If neither of his versions had placed above third but the combined votes were enough, maybe they'd have adapted then. And frankly I don't quite see how it's unfair to Ike fans either. Not to mention a lot of them might be voting for Marth this time around, because smash.