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1 minute ago, Florete said:
As with past years, I will be putting all my votes on Awakening Anna, even though it will likely be fruitless.
Winner predictions:
Male:
1st: Marth
2nd: ChromFemale:
1st: Byleth
2nd: EirikaI'm confident Marth will take this year. Not so confident on Chrom, but I feel like he stands the best chance for 2nd. And the female side I'm far less confident on, but I'm locking this in as my pre-beginning prediction.
I don’t think Chrom has a chance.
he is losing this poll, and the same polls for Reddit and gamefaqs (other major FE Fanbases)
and, Byleth M got no alts and is the last male lead. I don’t see how Chrom can overchrome those odds? If every group is saying “he will win”. But nobody is voting for him...how would he win!
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16 minutes ago, NSSKG151 said:
As much as I like Marth, Chrom and Eirika I feel like my votes would be wasted on Lord characters since they get a ton of alts regardless of whether they win CYL or not. I was actually thinking of giving Nyna some votes but I feel very confident she is getting added to Heroes sometime this year either from Archanea's next New Heroes banner, the Fallen Heroes banner or a seasonal banner (like Bridal or Christmas). So all my votes will be going to Anna again for the third year in a row and I will be very happy if she is still in the top 20 since it might help encourage IS to give her one more alt.
Nooo Chrom needs ALL the votes he can get! He’s on the cusp. Please consider it? But I won’t push
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Great outfits there! I love these clothing’s
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Marth will win
thrn ether Seliph, as this poll shows
or M Byleth. He got no alts. At all. And there’s 0 other male leads in the game so he will get all the “angry alt” and “lead bias” votes.
so I think it’ll be Marth and M Byleth but maybe Seliph beats out M Byleth? Then next year is Sigurd and whoever didn’t win this year
cyl7 is Chrom, I hope.
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Chrom has no chance of winning. Even based on this poll he won’t win.
but I am still stressed and sad, and still putting every vote I have for him -
Awakening is 3 acts!
Act 1 is Chrom overcoming his past va the mad king Gangrel
act 2 is Chrom overcoming his present by fighting his foil, Walhart
act 3 is Chrom overcoming his fate/the future, facing his own death and surviving and then beating fate yet again in the epilogue
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Inigo x Severa: but mainly if it’s Chrom!Inigo, and Vaike!Severa I love they’re dynamic already, but it’s even better when inigo is Chrom’s kid because then he just makes sense ; and the concept of Chrom and Vaike’s rivalry extending to being the grandfather to the same girl (Soliel) is hilarious plus Soliel has little traits of both I just think it’s the most perfect set of pairings that exists in any game
Owain and Cynthia is very fitting; and if they ‘grownup and grow apart’ it’s actually...kinda fitting leaving room for Odin
Kjelle and Laurent are so good together
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1 hour ago, Sir Gerwald of Vallora said:
Sorry to break this to you, but that would be Sumia. While they've never made an official announcement, it's pretty obvious.
They have prior interaction, the first time we see Sumia she saves Chrom and they even have a CG, which I beleive is called, "love birds". Chrom and Sumia have the highest support growth, and, most of all, in the opeing movie to Awakening we can see Sumia standing beside Chrom holding a baby Lucina in her arms. As much as I'd prefer it be someone else, it's pretty obvious who IS picked.
Oh boy it’s this.
Inigo’s initial design is heavily based on marth. Blue (and yellow) hair, shorts, a cape.
bis birthday is the day Shafow dragon released. Only other characters to reference Marth in birthday is Lucina and Owain (related to Chrom)inigo is the only potential sibling to have a brand
and, Chrom and Olivia is hinted at in Fates, references heavily in warriors, and even heroes gives more to Olivia than Sumia, plus other than robin who is typically shown as male, Olivia is Chrom’s most popular ship in the knights of Iris polling book where the “official popularity” graphic we still see today comes from.
moreso, most agree that Chrom and Olivia has actual good dialogue, the confession scene and the chapter 11 text matches up with Chrom saying “I’ll follow my heart” then chapter 11 saying “he knew in his heart who it should be” (not “he was already engaged anyway”, as the dialogue strongly insinuated he wasn’t)and the siblings, inigo is characterized by self doubt; as Lucina’s sibling is inigo compares himself to Chrom and Lucina, as Lucina’s sibling does
the role and supports simply don’t fit Cynthia‘a character
but whoever the character is, they take on inigos traits. Both the timid and showy and flashy side, as well as the self doubt and false confident side.
plus, Olivia has scenes with Chrom (end of 10, escorting him out of Plegia, discussing his plans when they regroup while everyone else gets one like Olivia games a full Convi, beginning of chapter 11 she joins despite not being much of a fighter) and then he married. They put in a lot of Olivia content right before the wedding chapter, and she’s the last person t talk to him before that battle and in the (I think it’s called the midmire fortress?)
so acting like Chrom and Olivia is a nothing ship, or like Chrom and Sumia is “canon” because it has one CG is very reductive because there is a lot more surrounding Chrom and Olivia than one cutscene, including but not limited to the in game interactions, and the supports for the full family (like how inigos dad yells in the B support and it’s the same time as Chrom in the sibling C support)
but also I was saying “as I said” because in this topic I mentioned about popularity and ship-ness. The ship.
and it’s fair to say Chrom and Olivia is the ship because it’s the one that won the popularity contest (except robin who again, typically shown as male) -
I don’t really like Olivia x Virion bexause inigos flirting is about his low self confidence and advice from Olivia, not being a womanizer like Virion
that said as I mentioned Olivia and Chrom is THE ship of the game and I’ll die by that and if they ever canonize a Chrom ship and it’s not that I’ll probably just disappear from Every FE sites at all
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I was honestly hoping to see Chrom and Olivia get a card together. I knew it wouldn’t happen but I’m still sad.
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Oh man. One year at least for Priam is going to be hard but I need orbs anyway.
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So interesting and well put.
Is It okay if I make a spin off thread about this convo and also my idea of a Walhart child!
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16 minutes ago, Jotari said:
Aversa joining is completely ridiculous trying to think about things canonically given she's the second last boss you fight in the game as you travel to Grima. For them to suddenly take a wild detour and return with her is pretty unthinkable. The others could conceivably fit in before chapter 25, but not Aversa. Don't know why they even bothered to keep her around after the Deadlords chapter.
Whalhart I think I'd very much improved by him living. Mostly because we only have like two damn scenes with him before he dies in the story so we actually get very little exposure to him. And he is a pretty interesting character with stuff like his vegetarianism that would never be expressed, which is both funny, unexpected and completely sensical for his personality. It also shows him as a more malleable philosophical figure unlike his peers who run the might makes right philosophy. And finally there's the implications that he did in fact die, unlike the others, and is only back because he's a risen. A risen that has maintained his sentience which makes him a massive bad ass.
That’s fair I have no strong feelings for or against her use.
I just don’t agree about Walhart. As the non canon xenologue it’s great to learn those facts
but in canon the point is he is the same but also the opposite to Chrom. Hero king descendant. Chosen by a god. Wants to unit the world and create peace.
but he wants the weak to serve the strong. Chrom believes the strong should serve the weak. Because that is an impossible compromise they fight.
Chrom begging him to lay down his arms in honor of Emmeryn But ultimately being forced to kill him adds a lot to both his and Chrom’s character. Neither could ever back down.
so him living and joining Chrom...I just don’t like it.
I DO think he should have had a descendant. Maybe after you fight him, the conqueror’s child from the future shows up.
when you beat the game Chrom puts him in charge of the valm region of our timeline (despite Chrom being the leader of a more peaceful world, others work as leaders of regions) something like that.
Would work for 3 reasons.
1: we could learn about Walhart and see more about valm as a whole.2: we could see the effects of a child learning they won’t be born in the timeline
3: we could learn about what happens in the original timeline, where Walhart lives much longer due to Chrom being wounded.
idk my opinion. But maybe I should make a new thread to discuss that since it’s off topic.
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4 hours ago, Sir Wolfram of Vallora said:
Because he was disappointingly thrown in as a SpotPass afterthought. Some of my favorite characters in concept, like Emmeryn, Walhart, Gangrel, and even Yen'fay, were shafted in terms of story. I really would have liked to have seen supports between more of these characters. Yen'fay not supporting with Say'ri, Emmeryn not supporting with any of her siblings, and Gangrel and Walhart not having supports with Chrom or any related characters is a real missed opurtunity.
Chrom getting supports with them would have been so much better. Who limits the main character so much?
but tbh I think gangrels story is a LOT stronger by being recruited
but Walhart and Chrom’s story are stronger if Walhart dies
emmeryns stort is stronger if she dies
yen Fay is stronger if he dies.
Gangrel improves the story
im neutral to Priam and Aversa
yen, walhart and Emmeryn take away from the main story If they were fully canon
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Chrom recruiting Gangrel is some of the most interesting dialogue. And it showed so much growth and Gangrel’s character. I don’t know why they didn’t expand on any of that.
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34 minutes ago, TheSilentChloey said:
I don't dismiss it because of a "cutscene" I dismiss it on the grounds of the game's code.
Okay. And Chrom and Olivia proved much more popular in Japan anyway, and IS put more care in the story for Inigo. The game could easily have purposefully made Olivia harder because they wanted it to be special. We don’t know their intentions with code so it’s meaningless
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3 hours ago, TheSilentChloey said:
Inigo's child support is generic which means Frederick could equally be as much of Inigo's dad as Chrom. And you're forgetting how bad Lucina's stats are, also you're forgetting just how many times you were told repeatedly that Sumia is Chrom's canon bride and are ignoring the facts.
Like a child actually.
Like I said Sumia has more going for her than "just a cut scene" but okay, keep ignoring the facts and twisting them to suit your narative.
I know they’re generic. I’m not saying they’re exclusive. I’m saying Chrom acts in character in those scenes. Frederick does not; he acts more like Chrom.
inigo is Lucina’s only sibling who can have a brand and the only time Chrom shows happiness recruiting them “heh. A son.” He is pleased when he realized inigo is his kid.
Sumia really doesn’t. Her presence and character arc get the same fulfillment from marrying Frederick. Meanwhile Olivia is in love with Chrom regardless; and after risking her tail as the getaway driver, she has the heroic merits as well. And despite being a dancer she convinces Chrom to let her fight.
then in chapter 12, once again Chrom tried to bench her but she convinces him to let her stay.
it’s an Established precedent that Olivia will fight for her place in the army.
yes all the brides do that. I’m not arguing that others don’t. I’m saying it’s in character for Olivia, Sully, and Robin.
the meeting Lucina scene is in character for Olivia (and Robin since there is no suspect there)at the end of the day Olivia/Inigo points in the royal family keep tacking on. Yet you completely dismiss it because of a cutscene
not to mention If Olivia has 7 points and Sumia has Max but hasn’t activated supports, Olivia wins. She has less points but more priority.
The games coding isn’t as cut and dry. Which hardly matters because games often make the better content harder to unlock. It’s basically like a new game plus bonus -
6 hours ago, TheSilentChloey said:
Actually Sumia is Chrom's default bride (as in the IS clearly makes the Chrom/Sumia pairing as 'canon') he has the quickest support growth with her and it's not just "a cutscene" that leans towards Sumia having a substantial relationship with Chrom, even if the second half of the game pushes his wife to background character and their supports are not to everyone's taste (I don't like 'em either but I will concede facts where facts stand) if she's not female Robin. Sumia gets a good portion of the early game screen time compaired with Chrom's other potential brides bar Robin, who pretty much gets the most screen time out of Chrom's potential brides.
In the case of Chrom and Olivia they pretty much have nothing going for them except a shotgun wedding and forcing the player to make up what happens between them and they have Lucina.
Also the only way you get to view Chrom and Olivia's supports is by having Chrom marry someone else, so that's a wasted effort. Chrom and Olivia make okay friends but certainly are not a good pairing tbh, especially for DLC content as Olivia is recommended to marry someone else to make Inigo way better than he is with Chrom as his dad.
Aditionally, and I know you might not like it, but there are better parents than Chrom for Inigo, he doesn't get Aether and RK is too situational, even in the main story.
Not really; Sumia has a cutscene going for her, but that’s about it. Her being important in the early story makes her default? That would mean robin has to marry Lissa or Frederick as they’re early story characters.
They have a good bit. The text of “he knew in his heart who it would be” is very very reminiscent of Olivias exclusive chapter 12 flashback scene, where they speak with that exact same sentiment.
inigo can have other dads but for a hero class RK is amazing, as you can get him almost guaranteed not to break his equipment. But more importantly...Inigo’s personality.
he is characterized by self doubt. His mother advises him to flirt in order to overcome his shyness but he never overcomes it etc etc.
his father yells at him and scolds him. Few characters would do this, but it’s very much who Chrom is, as we see an outburst of a very similar sort in Lucina’s sibling support.
nit to mention the whole “invincible” thing and inigo being Chrom’s only other child to get the brand. The whole situation with the Falchion and the character being insecure that it hasn’t chosen them is perfectly in line with Inigo; it’s who he is. Chrom’s wife (unless it’s robin) being So distraught and insecure and etc when she sees Lucina and Chrom makes most sense with Olivia as we know her to be so full of worry.
so Inigo’s dad acts like Chrom. Lucinas sibling acts like Inigo.
now for friends...
well Olivia is in love with Chrom since basically they just meet at the end of chapter 10 so that will be hard for friendships but whatever it is.
the C support has her acting on that love and her typical shyness in that she can hardly look at or talk to him. He resolved to make her smile and speak with him.
b support he becomes shy around hera support they’re both awkward but they hit it off.
that’s some of his most actual relationship development there is. If you swapped Fem robin supported with Males then that one works well too. But Sully and Olivia, as it stands, are the only ones who actually have healthy relationship development in their supports.
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1 hour ago, eclipse said:
Elena is Ike's mom!
And as for Chrom, let's not give up! Perhaps that's how we'll get Emmeryn!
Or Gangrel.Chrom and Emmeryn would be good! I saw art once called the fall and rise of the Exalt. And it was Chrom and Emmeryn. Sick joke.
I actually...Chrom’s endgame dialogue recruiting Gangrel shows so so much character growth
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40 minutes ago, eclipse said:
I ship Micaiah with Pelleas, I hear ya!
I hope we get something really off-the-wall with Ike, like Elena!
I’m sorry you know the pain of my biggest fear. I love pelleas I wish he got any attention in any way tbh
I forgot, who is Elena?
For Chrom like many said it’s probably Robin, or Lucina. I hope make robin just so Chrom X Female Robin shippers can’t say I’m wrong and point to that as evidence to hurt my heart! -
1 hour ago, Anacybele said:
Wow, I prefer them too! I'm not a big fan of Chrom or Awakening in general, but I did think he was great with Olivia.
Chrom is my favorite lord, awakening is not at all my favorite game. You can’t imagine how heart broken I am every single year in CYL where Chrom stays #4. Unless you are a Marth or Eirika Stan in which case you’re with me is three should band together. (If Chrom gets in and either of those two don’t I’m going to support them, they know my pain more than any other character fan base)
but I’m so happy someone else likes them together. Pray for me that it ever happens
1 hour ago, Florete said:I doubt they'll "canonize" any couple that isn't already canon. We didn't even get Marth & Caeda, which is a canon couple. A duo Chrom would likely come with either male Robin or Lucina, or even Emmeryn or Lissa.
Idk. They may do Chrom and Sumia or female Robin. Heck any duo with female Robin would make some say it’s canon and then I’d be sad! No offense FeMU fans
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Another year before they canonizes Chrom and someone, another year of my weak Chrolivia shipper heart breaking
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Yes! She’s nurturing
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Absolute best pairing in all FE:
Chrom x Olivia. They’re similar, they have wholesome and sweet supports, their unique conversation in chapter 11/12 is really perfect for both them and for the story.
Inigo’s father supports make sense for almost only Chrom as the best easilyI know it will never be canon but all i want from FE is to canonize this relationship
Lissa x Lon Qu is great
I like Sumia and Frederick
Vaike x Cordelia is a strong one, Chrom’s friend and his admirer teaming up to take him down but end up in love.
absoltje worst:
Chrom and Sumia. There no substance and the only thing people ever say in its favor “there’s a cutscene!”
Choose Your Legends Round 5 Official Discussion Thread!
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I’m just bit convinced. Chrom has almost always been 4th and never made the climb. Chrom as 15k votes, and there are 130k from Dimitri and Claude being reshuffled.
I hope with my whole heart chrom wins; even just 2nd place I’d be beyond happy. I just don’t know.