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Just buff up and bumrush the spawns. Ignore the NE archers till Cam and frens show up. The chokepoints are a joke and so are the seige weapons after turn 1. You can pretty much wipe the map in 3 turns and just sit back farming exp and visiting villages for loot swag once you get used to it. (On lunatic, never played normal tbh) I like to leave taco alive until he uses his DV to make cleaning up the last few waves easier.

It's likely that your focused unit's will be stronger than Camilia at her join if you've played this game... a little too much, but even in that setting she's free, has fast exp growth and the second best support personal in the game. She's pretty fucking awful in pvp though by virtue of not being one of the gen2 CQ girls, kana or Azura.

It's not super complicated. Get full guard on a shuriken user and build a VoF!Silias, an extremely stacked Jakob, or a stacked early Caeldori/Dwyer that can 4-6 hit KO Groans while holding Corrin. Silver shuriken groans and gtfo with your ninja then send in the pain train. Provided you can survive 1 hit from Groan (stack guage to trigger on the hex turn) he goes down like a bitch. Alternately just hexing rod his ass if you're not opposed to MC rewards. It's a free kill worth oddles of exp so unless you're ltcing it's always worth blicking groans.

Three things. 1: Azura is probably higher than level 10 here, and Mozu probably has spendthrift if she's shooting taco. So none of this is relevant. 2: You can shoot a dude in the face for guage on the rescue stroll down and face 0 damage/0crit/0venge from main taco (his clone cannot kill you, at all) because guage. So none of this is relevant. 3: Holy dickballs Mozu has luck low enough to upset you now?!?!?!?! Levant to solo-Elise user confirmed. Edit for giggles: +29 Extreme stack god Be!mozu can kill taco before he even moves with a luna proc or a crit and str statues. It's a silly build but it's a thing. Deathgod Corn/Mozu!Percy doesn't even need a proc for this though with his +34 stack.

You can kill Garon in no-grind no-dlc with good guard guage management and stack abuse.

Boon/Bane only matters for the prolouge. +Hp is unambiguously the best there. For heavy Corrin use in the main campain past 2nd shop roll +mag. -luck.

General!Elise!Bolt Axe

Things have been hectic and distracting. Ch10 (continued): Promoting Nyx to sorc instead of DK and a fun bit of movement saved me the need for a dodge. Ch11: Odin walks right holding sorc!nyx and a hp tonic, niles and arthur wombo combo the left under various buffs. 2 freeze stave charges (ninja and LoD) make this 100% safe. Ez. Ch12: Camilia is a WL now for reasons, her and early promo beruka fly Arthur and Niles north to wipe out the ninja's on EP one under buffs and footwork with Cam dual striking off both. After that it was a clean rush to the finish while Odin farmed apoths for exp. Camilia doubled an enfeebled ryoma after footwork, WL, and enfeeble while holding Arthur. This is a really quick and fun map. Ch13: Tonics on Jakob/Cammy/Odin. LoD jakob jags east, Cam bumrushes Reina turn 1, Odin thwomps thwops and a thot. Footwork gives cam doubling speed holding beruka and keeps odin out of double taco range. Then Odin drinks Scarlet. Ch kana: Setup for ultimate power. Odin does the do and exp happens. Arthur Laslow and Niles promote. Harlot assumes her final form as a stripper. Laslow is 17/1 harlot is 10/1 rest are 20/x. Ophelia: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Ch14: Arthur and Cam kill the hexing rod, Ophy bombs the south and the west promoting into a not-drugged-at-all 30 mag. Get fucked Leo. Odin bleeds birds for other nerds to feed on. Froze a kinshi. Ch15: Nothing interesting happened. Corn early promoted to make this easier with a levin and Ophy and Arthur got more drugs. 33 mag. Ch16: Odin goes northwest, other nerds go southwest, Ophy solo's the east. Burned 1 enfeeble here to get the hero/aventurer stack to flip. Ch17: Ophelia runs north and kills her way to shura, whom she kills under enfeeble (36 mag). Kinshi!Niles blends the center and Odin mops up reinforcments to the north for exp as nerds race Ophy for their free SE exp. Froze the mid SM for safety. Ch18: Ophelia runs north and incenerates the world. Odin thwoped thwomps again while Arthur and the gang ran for the stacked generals and cleared out the east. Niles captures the edrop and a pair of srank stavebots. Enfeeble + forged lightning + hammer end the general. Zola killed himself when he saw ophelia's outfit. Ch19: Got Nina, Shigure, Dwyer, and Percy before this, Nina got passed Hp+5 from her father's time teaching Arthur how to get tenure, Percy gets eroom, dwyer is an exp mule here. Arthur has luna/shelter/eroom and is a dragon now, he chews an arms scroll and BK's foxes at the broken tree under percy's aura while Ophelia runs east from the start and splatters a lot of dank roadkill and a really fancy roadkill. Ch Soliel: Ophelia needs an assist as I'm only running 1 statue. So harlotesque MN!Soliel with sol exists now. Her map's early turn's are hectic as fuck. Ch20: Ophelia blows up the east. Soliel divebomb's Hayato. Everyone else did bird combat and freeze was spammed muchly. Footwork was the real hero. Ch21: Skip. Got arms scroll. ChShigure: Ophelia get's LoD, Soliel gets scraps, Arthur and cam chip for wrank. Shigure is bad but kinshi might see use. Brave axe time. Ch22: Ophelia, Nina, and Soliel form team cqgirls and stop the right with azura. Everyone else feeds like mad in the west. Last chance for exp really. Odin is still doing gods work and tanks the big wave for maximal feeding. Arthur has trample and is one level off axefaire. Soliel has Sfaire. Ch23: O-ophelia you've been on my mind just like a drug, o-ophelia shove badwifu off the wall. Arthur ft cam introduces taco to the weakness of snipers by rushing to close combat! Nina and niles combine to capture rallyman and get loot. Other nerds roll west for exp. Ch24: Arthur gets swordbreaker, Soliel get's sbreaker, Azura!Nina gets pass, and I bail via the brave axe escape. Ch25: Sold everything but some axes and ophy/soliels gear for more staves and drugs. Ophelia and old fren ch8 maiden(now a 10/5 rally mag bot) walk left with S stave maid. Soliel drags arthurcam and every buff I have right to wreck ninja shit. Burned pretty much all my staves here with 3 enfeeble, 3 rescue, and 5 freeze remaining. Arthur smacks Ryoma for 208 damage with the dual club. I have no idea how the dude pulled his wet salsalike flesh into an improper seppuku ballstabbing after that. 26: Ophilia, Soliel, and the stave/rallybots roll right. Nothing much to say. 27: Justice Strikes! 28: Beware my fists of Justice! Unit eval Odin/Ophelia/Nyx: This is the hardest fucking carry imaginable. I went for a weak 1 statue phelia instead of a truely busted 4 statue so other units would matter. Laslow/Soliel/Harlot: Soliel is less busted than Ophelia or MN!Silias, but not by much. Laslow is criminally underated because footwork is an op personal. Harlot is a harlot. Arthur/Camilia/Percy: Dracozerk is absurd. Arthur rolled well so I just used percy for utility, beruka with better combat if you will. Pumped Justice full of roids and gave him str+2/eroom/faire/trample/luna for extreme overkill as cam didn't have the statues to ensure a clean kill in 28 with her stack setup. Cam took heartseeker to play pseudo-aurabot and did cam shit that's not worth discussing. Niles/Azura/Nina/Shigure: 11 move pass rescue makes endgame painless. Playing CQ without capture is just masochistic. Dancer. Exp fodder. Corn/Jakob/exp fodder: Jakob did his job and carried me to ch8 he did reclass to MoA and did do work but, Ophelia. I hate this corrin so much. Exp for better blenders was exp for better blender's. Beruka: Had one job and she did it.

Derp. Forgot the part where Corncob gets two chances x.x

To be fair most Corrin's can kill garon via the shadow yato (It semi peirces DS) with a single DF proc at a roughly 25% chance. So 1/4 attempts. There's some math by a dude using MN!MU in this threads backlog on how much additional damage you'll need after Gunther/Be, tonics, and rally.

Yeah, all the endgames are nosave. Thankfully you can stairskip ch27 and 1 turn 28 with rescue. If you fuckered up by not building a stacked brave axe Be and need to fish for DF proc's I'm so sorry.

Nitpicking. Nos is inarguably suuuuper nerfed. It's noticeable any time a not-general-bulk mage touches the tome. You can test the awakening vs fates comparison in revelations (basicly the same statspread) if you like. Rev Odin is still extremely busted (nogrind) because Odin. Sorc is just completely minmaxed for single hit damage, so the nos drawbacks don't matter if your sorc has general bulk/extremely high damage output/both. Doubling is just worthless when you rely on vantagestack abuse and lightning and procs are actively worse than most stack skills. Odin can A+ Laslow for sol if you want that fsr, or he can take the much more useful strong riposte. Odin can easily run V/LaD/Mal/Riposte/thing for +15-20 damage, this is basicly VV. He can straight ohko with nos if he wants to, but Ophelia exists and a +2/3 forged flibberdilibber or wta gate abuse is just better in ohko situations. His crit boost is meaningless outside of early turn rigging. Odin's growths are the third highest in the game, you could remove his str growth entirely and he would still have royal growths. It's thilly. Nyx's issue is that she's a player phase focused mage in a game with 5 viable ep mages and lightning. Her individual flaws are secondary to the part where she's a completely outclassed babyhole.

Those people are fuckin mouthbreathers. Here's the deep, complex, hidden Odin meta... Step1: Buy nos Step2: Equip nos Step3: Win game You can dip samurai/moa for the obviously useful skills (vantage, LaD). Use tonics.

Gonna second freeze stave as a way to break saizo side and...99% of the game. Entrap isn't worth burning in 25 as you can just suicide captured lungeslaves in. Heartseeker + atk stance gives a huge boost to hit and forged bronze axe/bow is value. Past that freeze/enfeeble are excelent fix my huge mistake buttons/die now buttons. In my recent pmu (that I really should update) I finished with 3 charges of freeze and 1 charge enfeeble as my only remaining not-heal staves after buying all-of-them. You can really spam that shit. Silias is kinda busted if you abuse his personal and support tree, but cav tree is really bad late. Bow knight is extremely good in this game as is kinshi and Selena has both in her innate class set. First clear varied, things like 7/11/18/99/22/28 were one and done in 10-15 mins but the more complicated maps took hours and I spent a few days figuring out quick and elegant full clears on 10/17/20/25 because those are really entertaining maps to linger on, getting a brute force clear took an hour at worst but I'm extremely reckless. Ignore the left side in 26 staves cycle on a fixed 4 turn clock. Naga save your soul if you used rescue up early+ or lack pass in 28 with a first clear team. Grats on 25.

Candice the great and Sophie's boss are both open. On topic, capture the 15 hp Be in weirdstat sanctuary ^_^

Oni!Orachi (S Hayato)

Yes ch11 is trump tower. Lunge as a player skill is really really good as a repositioning/movement tool but it's limited by a need to survive. Capture fodder is expendable and can kamakazi lunge to do some truely silly things. A good place to play with this is ch12.

Swolekura is pretty sick with the bolt naginata, it's pretty much lobster tier. Shrine is just "I'm high deploying br 23-26 great festal plz". Unfortunately her special shrine outfit looks like hot garbage compared to the default so she's automaticly the worst stave user.

It's worth noting that the earliest availible b-stave is ch9 and the earliest S-stave is ch18. These are both top tier captures tbh as the ch9 maiden is the first possible source of rally mag/luck at 10/5 and S-staves are godly. Just noting this so folks will shutup about reclassing jakob/elise already. The lunge ninja's in kaze's room on ch11 are basicly entrap charges way before entrap is avalible and it's almost always worth grabbing two of them.

Mechanist!Reina. Also she should make Cornbread her puppet.

Returned to civilization at last. Appologies to hayiwhatsa and selena dudes. List was full. Anyways Pre-Run thoughts on dudes: Not-Hana: God this is the worst MU I've ever seen. Beruka: Her perfered reclass doesn't exist so probably not doing that. Also not using her heavily, pairup-lass ahoy. Camilia: Heartseeker is good so she's going DK for a level. Past that it's Cam alright. Lafast: I may go MN on Soliel to free up her dad for more footwork abuse as a BK. Or vise versa. Footwork abuse is one hell of a drug. Harlot/Nyx: Baby got back. Arthur: If his growths kick in Beruka is out of a job, if not she might still be out of a job depending on my seal management. Odin: I have mixed emotions on this. On one hand. Odin/Ophelia in CQ. On the other hand... Odin/Ophelia in CQ, again. Jakob: Carry me to Ch9 plz knifeman. Ch7: Jakob does drugs like a winner and Arthur helps. Silias, Effie, and Elise forgot how to swim. Ch8: Smuggled in tonics for Odin, Jakob runs north as Arthur gets nosman his tonic fix, nosman grabs Niles and doubles mages now, druggie Arthur is a 4hit ko so they manage to clear Jakob a path to Flora and secure the 3 village without dieing. This was a fun map to puzzle out with 4 dudes. Chmozu/invasion1: Odin is a god now. Ch9: Odin and Niles go north through the front and Nyx begins to do her job as Odin's cheerleader. Jakob and backpackMU go south. Niles captures the shrine maiden and a spearguy. Ch10: (Screaming internally) Arthur hit his speed/str growth so he doubles and forged hand axe splatters, Odin is Odin so the west side is on lockdown, Azura under tonics can EP dual strike two peg knights off niles to secure the center and Jakob/Corn route the southeast well under pairup. Just waiting for Nyx to dodge a bow and the map should be nice and empty on turn 11 with all the loot. She's bad at dodging though.

Thumbs are getting used apparently. Figured I'd throw this up before I go get my new years on. Ch kids: They happened, Sniper!Kiragi, Kinshi!Selkie, and Oni!Rhajat are getting used as leads. Combat parents are all promoted and have their x/15 setups. Pantsuboro looks fantastic as a kinshi. The curains match the drapes. Ch23: Silias gets VoF and smashes Cams side by turn 2, Rhajat cleans out the northeast and bowbird squad wipes out the middle. Ch24: Silias Smash. Other dudes kill the 10k sorc. Ch25: Silias rides the entap express, Kaze grabs the spare great festal for the ch27 route. Ch26: Corn goes HOble and fangs Xander. Invasion3: This map is fun, Silias OHKO's stones under vow and cannot die so he wipes the south out, Rhajat wipes the east, other nerds scramblemto PP down the scraps and the west, shoutouts to Pursuer!Kiragi for hitting like a lead truck. Ch27: Oni Cheiftain is a sick class, Silias and Rhajat stomp and other nerds chase down the scraps. Endgame: Silias equips deathblow and orko's Dragon of Discomfort again with a forged great club after corn triggers vow and Sakura pops hexing rod. Thoughts: Folks often complain the br cast is frail but Silias and oni's exist so I don't get that at all, Silias hit an effective 60/55/40 buffed bulk stat by endgame while Rhajat managed a meager 50/40/40 with +12 stack. Everything else was in a mobile class with +10 or higher stack. Shoutouts to potent potion by the way, it's basicly defender and +6 rallies as an xl1 skill, but better. God beastkin are bad. Will post stats when I have a comp.

You should look into the game more before hating on it, I've played it more than Awakening already. Or just play the game, it's 20$ used and you clearly enjoy fire emblem. As for what it has that the previous two do not? Everything. Gaiden was a rather drastic break from the traditional FE formulae in terms of gameplay and SoV stays mostly true to that with light tweaking. ------------------------------------------------- Ignoring this, Pokemon has been shitting out the same game over and over for god knows how many years but folks still buy it like a junkie grabs that sweet pointy fix. You like fire emblem, it's a fire emblem game. It does not need to be new and inovative for the sake of being new and inovative. A QoL and graphical update of gaiden with some tasteful additions makes for a very solid FE game as gaiden already had some unique twists on the classic formula. People clearly enjoy FE as it has 15 going on 16 main series entries so of fucking course it sold and sold well. It's not FE12 or CQ but not everyone is looking for controler breaking difficulty coated in a chromed finish of elbow greasy polish, either because it's too restrictive for their challenge runs, or because they're just not good at games, and waifu emblem can get old. So as a palate cleanser and olde tyme FE game SoV is both refreshing, and has all the same style/quality of replay value as all the other classic's of it's time. Except with way better QoL, additional built in and freelc content, and it's just so god damn pretty. (That said the paid dlc is a rip, but it always is) Can we stop talking about SoV now?

(Finished BR pmu will update when thumbs are not my best typing method.) This is a good plan I swear. -FCorrin/Azura/Niles + 8 more gen1's. I can capture shit to make this winnable if the picks are Horrifucked. Kids are fun so they're existing. -No other units will be used. At all. In any way. -PMU not a PMUPCE, feel free to make suggestions, I'll probably even use most of them. -No DLC at all, no visiting at all. -You pick the fcorn setup. -Will update in thread so you can enjoy my suffering. FCorn(+Spd/-Def/Sam)/Azura/Niles/Beruka/Camilia/Laslow/Harlot/Nyx/Arthur/Odin/Jakob.

The same reason folks bought any game not FE12/CQ. The game has replay value with self imposed conducts on hard. No-grind full combat lab runs, efficency play, limited/jank recruitment , etc are quite entertaining in 15. Edit: The game is also absolutely gorgeous. Jaw droppingly so.