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I could never agree with the deserve idea. If you're going to market the game with three distinct routes, treat them right or don't rep them at all. Pretty much shoving Edelgard to the stage and ignoring the other two is punishing numerous groups who didn't prefer or play Black Eagles. And alienating players in a huge way like that goes against Intsys' entire design philosophy. Stick to Byleth especially when we spend the entire game through Byleth with the theme song also being directed to Byleth as well. Byleth reps all factions even the Church. It's foolish not to choose Byleth and prioritize route fairness.

Edelgard would've been the wrong choice to rep 3 Houses. She is ultimately the protagonist of one route and it'd push prominent Black Eagle love when Byleth and Sothis are easy picks that rep all routes.

I'm somewhere in green. Game's cool.

Personally? At this point I recommend just starting from FE6 onward. FE4 remake is happening soon and you can choose to play FE5 after that or not.

Wait really? No romance in a Fire Emblem game called "Engage"? Hilariously ironic if so.

I'm not surprised the designs are brighter and vibrant. It does help them stand out more in a franchise containing 700+ characters.

Not really comparable? Leon has shown to be a sweetheart about the world and companions he's surrounded by. He also doesn't really push any boundaries like how Faye screams about killing anyone in Alm's name, regardless of how uncomfortable Alm is. Valbar and Leon have shown to bounce off each other and goof around without any flirting. Leon's pretty respectful about Valbar not wanting him too. Clive and Faye take the cake before Leon as a candidate. I'd personally use Mathilda too since she's a little too eager about murdering people doing their jobs just to flaunt (like, actually canon to her character in Clive support rather than just an out of place post battle quip). But that gets into subjectivity and personal values.

Non canon pairings suck. The big problem for me is that if a choice is super amazing with tons of chemistry, just kiss it goodbye after the game is over. It will never be represented in that character's identity. It's never anything more than just a single support, it's as if they might as well stay single with how hard FE dances around any sort of romance. Canon usually gets pretty good action.

Average FE fan when they see a harmless spinoff with appeal that isn't for them: "Wow, that game should fail!" Irony aside, I made my stance on this very clear lmao.

He was an amusing content creator. I would never forget when he was playing Fates and was planning the Birthright path until he saw Camilla and decided to stick around on Conquest.

Then you directly brought up Hopes saying it wasn't good. Which I said that I disagree with and said in my opinion that it's pretty good to decent for FE standards. It literally doesn't matter that I responded to you. You're "directly" telling your opinion to multiple others too, that's the whole point of discussion centered websites like this. I'm not here dissing you or how you feel, relax.

You directly brought it up when talking about a potential Warriors story. It felt like a comparison. It's not important to me, I just disagree with you that Hopes' story was bad. Was it necessary to respond with "I don't care about your opinion" when this entire thread is consisting of everyone throwing their opinions out there about Warriors games? You're doing the same thing, sharing your opinion about those stories and games.

But Dimitri literally never acknowledges Rufus that way. We never see him go on to talk about Rufus being his only remaining family or how it was super tragic for his character that he died. And in a way, this is arguably more tragic for Dimitri's character going off his interactions with Rufus and his desire to come to an understanding. Rufus being another fucked up person in Dimitri's life adds extra sad layers. Rufus is just scared of Dimitri, there's nothing he can do if Dimitri takes the throne back in Crimson Flower. Especially during a big war, it threatens Rufus' comfort too. Cornelia had it where Dimitri's framing for the death of his uncle was based on the idea that he found out Rufus might have been involved with the tragedy or something like that.

Standards on what's good or not change and Fire Emblem stories were never all that great to begin with. Three Hopes' story is solid for FE and actually enjoyable since our main lead isn't insufferable or so boring that it makes me hate them like the lemon twins. Three Hopes story was definitely good especially if you're comparing it to Warriors like you were earlier.

Did the game ever really frame his death as tragic? From what I remember, Rufus was just a plot device used for the false sentencing of Dimitri and that was it. Rufus had a ton of interpretations due to how nothing he was. We never had a scene where Dimitri really mourned his unfair death either. I just think Three Hopes took the opportunity for some tragic irony by having Dimitri actually be the cause of his death this time. Hopes is filled with cute details like these. Like how the Death Knight is responsible for saving Monica than having her kidnapped (or generally kidnapping girls, instead he's the reason one is saved). Or how Claude fights the one character he never fought in Three Houses. Rufus was never treated as sympathetic. Cornelia even implied he was involved but now we have direct confirmation.

Three Hopes' story was pretty decent for Fire Emblem standards and it was leaps better than the garbage story we got with Warriors.

It didn't really feel earned, I don't buy Byleth's love and support being that special. Just player pandering. Especially when Dimitri hides things from Byleth and brushes them off the same as everyone else. Well I and many others don't hate it since it has its value. And that point makes no sense, Dimitri does what literally every lord has done and act purely in defense to anyone trying to threaten his life. Dimitri directly tried to be merciful just like Edelgard because he didn't kill all sorts of lords during the rebellion in Part 1. Ultimately they chose to continue fighting him and stick with their beliefs. Might as well say every main character has no agency for acting in retaliation against any threat. Every lord killed people who opposed them and refused to stand down. He's still a good person. Just because Dimitri didn't have it in him to immediately help Edelgard - a major cause of his troubles, in a completely different circumstance doesn't mean he's a bad person. He's just flawed with issues and weak points just like his other version, he's not a saint and never has been one. Dimitri in AM did a lot of inexcusable things, AG Dimitri making a questionable choice while being in a dark place doesn't mean he's automatically a worse person.

Hopes is better than FEW 1 just for having the writing and roster variety be good. I don't see the point in a "franchise crossover" if the crossover is half assed.

Nah. Rufus didn't have a radical change because there was nothing to his character. And by the by, the coup happens because of Edelgard's actions against the Slithers. The prologue's events throughout all routes exist together to a degree. The order goes from Edelgard to Dimitri to Claude. Thales tells an Agarthan agent to tell Cornelia the news. And Cornelia says directly that she won't sit around and wait for Thales to act (like she did in the original) due to Thales and the group getting exposed far too early in this timeline, she manipulates Rufus and his fear to start a coup.

For me, here's the problem with that. It's an amazing idea and I did like Azure Moon Dimitri's acting. But the redemption arc falls flat a bit from how brief it is with Byleth being his only dependent support is just bullshit. Dimitri not having essential characters like Dedue, Felix, and his other friends give him strength hurts his arc a lot. And sorry to say, but Dimitri's violence against the lords are only incited by the lords themselves starting it. Dimitri tries to push for peace but ultimately slays those who take up arms against them on the battlefield. All lords including Edelgard and Claude had to do this. I wouldn't say his friends enable his worst qualities, AG had an entire scene of the group coming together and encouraging Dimitri to open his heart to them more and it works.

That's the thing. The Black Eagles have an entire game of content and Three Hopes is meant to be a lowkey follow up of Houses. While Monica is just coming into existence while spending her time being a servant above all else.

Not exactly. Monica is in Three Houses, just in the form of the Kronya plotpoint and her being used as a disguise. The disguised Monica and Kronya bit got replaced with the real Monica. And it's an upgrade since she's actually pretty solid and alright in the main story. She didn't because her plans didn't work the same way they did in Three Hopes. Jeritza, a spy of the Empire, got to be a professor, Kostas was slain allowing the bandits to retreat to the secret hideout, and Monica was still alive in that moment. Edelgard herself highlights it as a miracle that everything was gathered there at once for Edelgard to have a chance to save Monica.

Edelgard wouldn't let a potential asset die for such petty reasoning. She'd only do so if it threatens her future which it very much did in 3H. I'm okay with Monica overall and objectively, she's an upgrade from what we got before. She's more ignorable than Fake Monica bringing one of the worst plot points in Fire Emblem. Nope. We see Edelgard talking to Jeritza in all routes right before the mission. She orchestrated Monica's survival no matter what and Monica herself made clear in El's support that she fell in love only because of Edelgard saving her.

But it literally does though as Cyril changes nothing for Claude. In VW Claude still alters Fodlan and the Church, is very negative and disliking toward the Church because he has his reasons to, and wanted Rhea out of power. He just doesn't have to be active in standing against the Church since Byleth successfully pacifies them as the new pope and Rhea gets out of power peacefully. Claude wouldn't randomly work with the Church just because of Cyril's words, he wants Fodlan changed and Rhea to be the one not in power.

That's legit not true. Alm is supported by his friends before he's "fawn over" by others. Alm stood up for Lukas and didn't care that he was a backwater noble. He saved Clair and is generally pretty kind to people (the SAME EXACT REASON some characters praise lords like Marth). And what do you mean he doesn't work for it? We hear about and see him spend his whole life training under Mycen. Alm had to work to get his strength and then trust, respect, and praise followed after said strength. Alm proved he was reliable. The story does not distort around Alm either, that's purely you being bitter toward him being a driving force for the story for some reason. Chosen Ones =/= Mary Sues. It's a big part of what defines mary sues and how they qualify best. It's one of the multiple instances of Alm failing to reach mary sue status. Yes, they are. Just because Alm doesn't fail by them doesn't erase that they are, in fact, shortcomings of the character. Putting others in needless danger because of your emotions rather than a deliberate choice is a negative. Alm himself admits that it's a negative and why he needs his friends + Celica. Alm NEEDED help and had plenty of things he couldn't do himself. Celica's journey directly benefitted Alm's and why he doesn't get defeated in the war. The game additionally tells us that Clive and co. did the actual army work while Alm was just a figurehead that fought on the frontlines. The big praise for Alm comes from his army and the people positively affected by him. So your point falls flat when you try to justify Marth's glorification. Many outside of Alm's banner don't give a shit about who he is, directly proven by numerous Rigelian NPCs either not caring or disliking the Zofians on their soil. Alm's only glorified by people who have reason to care about him. The majority of Rigel did not care about him at first. Numerous outside of Valentia go without saying. Celica's army also don't acknowledge Alm, he's not the center of the universe you force him to be. Your examples don't change that they're glorified. You dig into why their glorified but it doesn't change that they are. Even if the amount varies, there's still plenty of praise for every lord as that's usually why they're in lord status. They're made to be standout and given a supreme inheritance/bloodline. Alm has his own fair reasons for being glorified the same way. Clive and co literally bring up that Alm proved himself by taking back the outpost and saving his sister. It's not even the only reason he's made the Deliverance figurehead. Alm isn't in control of everything in the Deliverance either. Clive and his own men still hold weight and influence, as they handle areas that Alm cannot. It's purely a collaborative effort, Alm is moreso the figurehead for morale and he makes his decisions with other people. To call Alm a gary stu is nothing short of a buzzword because you don't like him.