Makaze

i mean i think it's just snike or walrein and omega is the itp if im wrong its probably refa for itp and it would also be someone that kaoz would empower but i wouldn't go there until all other options are exhausted, because i think refa's play as been town-supportive at the least also my case on omega had way more than the AtE on it. the slot before him claimed self-watcher and delayer and specifically mentioned it also delays kills. i was ready to clear omega again when he had this amazing defense post but at the end of that post he said he was trying to draw the nk. that contradicts his claim and immediately after i called him on that he went into AtE mode and omgus'd me the same way you're doing to refa but i think that omega is just going for any and every option other than himself. when i pushed walrein, he voted walrein. when i pushed him, he voted me. when athena was gaining pressure, he voted athena. etc and so on theres lots of reasons omega is being anti-town, regardless of his alignment

Chasing this lead is very likely to lead to a mislynch when there are genuinely scummy targets on the table. Consider Omega. Is he scum or ITP? You've been waffling on him all day.

I don't really have a defense for this because I don't remember it. I started checking everyone I thought could be on eclipse's scumteam and whittled it down to where she couldn't really be with anyone. JB was just one logical conclusion.

This is actually a good argument. Who did he Jail though? I don't think anyone claimed it.

I don't see how this makes sense as an ITP. He has been coasting through the game without strong convictions and now he decides to case you? How does that change make sense? I think that if Refa is the ITP he deserves to win this game, he's been playing amazingly. I wouldn't lynch him until all other suspects are exhausted.

I recall putting him in my PoE and being okay with lynching him, but he was barely around and I was tunneling eclipse at the time. I just kind of put him to the side in favor of my eclipse case.

this reads pure to me and its true, he did i don't think kill is mafia, tonally

There's a huge amount of stuff that spews Refa as town. Your read is based off of one instance where he suspects your slot and actually does his homework to justify it. I'm not seeing how OMGUS in spite of a wealth of evidence of Refa's towniness is going to help things.

I mean I'm basing it on who I think Kaoz was most likely to empower. I know he's town, so that's not WIFOM. He's not trying to out think me. I don't see how what you're doing is actually going to convince anyone of anything except that you're angry, which you would be regardless of alignment. Do you have any specific questions?

dude refa cannot be scum. hes just trying to figure it out calm down don't go omgus

I mean I haven't voted you and I still think Snike is the answer. But yeah this kind of defensive position really reminding me of Omega. Try to calm down. Think out how this happened. If you are town, how do you make the most of this situation?

does it actually matter if you die if it helps poe? its not like you've had a lot to contribute other than voting and unvoting omega

i legit don't remember the arc wagon lol. i was all about sully theres too much content this game

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Of the two people most suspicious on the Arc wagon, Snike and Walrein are the worst. But Kill intentionally stayed off wagon and didn't take a stance. Possibly because he knew they were both town.

yes look at these timestamps. posts were 2 posts apart (in this order) Kirsche never responded to this, but Shinori didn't seem to care. his next post about it:

I try not to read the people I sub into.

All of these posts are right after Athena claimed. However, it's very possible that Shinori wanted his other scummates on the Bart lynch and pushed Athena knowing it wouldn't work to make himself look better after the Bart flip. He also never voted for Kirsche, ever. Could be the same situation where he thought Kirsche was going to get lynched anyway, knew he was Mafia, and was trying to clear Junko after Kirsche died. Like I said at the start of D3. I want to point out this post responding to Snike. Snike mentioned it earlier too, when he said "Do you REALLY think that he left a coded message to his scum buddy? And this? And that? And that other thing? All at the same time???"

Did the same thing happen with Shinori after the claim? Let me see...

I once again want to iterate I kind of doubt that they would try to intentionally lynch Athena if Kirsche was Mafia, because Athena claimed co-networker early on and it would lose them a power without gaining any cred.

that's what i get for screenshotting

uh, they do? hover over the semi-stamp:

It makes someone Strongwilled or Strongman (their action cannot be stopped or redirected). Not sure which it was this time, read Shinori's flip he gave the item.

It did read like theater to me. That was why I voted Kirsche near EOD.