Makaze

at what point does this make it a good claim

i can see this world. doesn't really matter as long as both are scum tbh still would like to hear a real case on Omega's slot from you. pls form a case for your read on them

i think that mafia bookie is a joke. theres no such thing as mafia bookie, esp in a game with itp. that would make potential x3 anti-town kill power. i think the bookie claim itself is false. there is no bookie, town or otherwise

i think in a vacuum he is hard town, and his flaking is annoying, but not alignment indicative. i have no reasons to scumread him. if he were flaking with null content itd be something else

I'm confused on like what you mean by redirect here

Read the announce. No that announce did not factor in I forgot about it immediately. But if Kirsche is mafia it would help a Weapons being on the same team case.

FWIW I can't see any scum claiming to receive an empower when they know where it came from. Or Shinori claiming to be an empowerer for that matter if they were just planning to use it on their scum mates. I don't buy that world.

I can't say I remember either this or the announce. I'll check the announce now but can you quote this to me?

Like I said, I believe this is what happened, and that's all there is. Your entire case is bananas. How do you read Walrein based on tone? Do you think he is being genuine? What do you make of Omega.'s slot? One of the things I'd really like to see from you is an in depth analysis of Omega., because I think you are one of the players better suited to objective stuff outside of tone (which is why I think you can still scumread Walrein)

FTR I don't read you mafia im just trying to get you to prove that world wrong by seeing reason and giving you rope to hang yourself with if you're not so far the tunnel isn't dying and you've had actual reasons for tunneling you're just wrong about them now please help me find the mafia outside of mack if it isn't kirsche, who is

Actually, it did matter which, because they strongly wanted to avoid Junko lynch But yeah Im not 100% sold on kirsche, i just think that his EoD posts were genuinely bad I cannot find another world that makes sense. Mack CANNOT be mafia. im not going to change on this. and his replacement really,, really is not helping so please come up with another world where you're not wrong on mack and accept that he is town

I believe this would make a ton of sense for him to do as Mafia, if he was doing it to townclear one of the two slots. I think that scum's strategy was to intentionally sacrifice of their members, and it didn't matter which. But let's table that for now. Assume that Mack and Kirsche are BOTH town. Who would be the other Mafia besides LG (and don't say Weapons, he still doesn't make sense in this scumteam IMO). Please actually consider this world and give some kind of logical reasoning.

To make this 100% clear Even just purely on tone reads, Mack is 100% clear How do you feel about Kirsche on tone? Please site at least two examples from his ISO

Why don't your reasons for clearing him also work on Mack? (Do you see what I'm doing?)

Also this

For the record, what is your read on Kirsche?

Yes, but only because JB being confirmed forced me to seriously read JB's post for eclipse reads, and only then did I see that eclipse didn't make sense as a whole. If it had been just Shinori, I could have continued believing it.

In new words please. don't quote an old post

In particular: JB sets up Mack/Junko as his top scum reads. He even specifically says, if Junko is scum, then Mack probably is too. Then he jumps on to eclipse. Please explain the logic behind this if Mack is scum

Okay so @SatsumaFSoysoy what do you think of my defense of Mack if you think it's wrong, why this is also to Snike

thanks @SullyMcGully I'd like your full role claim as well?

@Omega. please get back to me? id like to hear your full claim again please

no i had not my bad. continue onward snike

i mean i mean yes but you'd never claim that unless you were in serious danger of being lynched... which I guess LG is, but hes also gone under the radar and AWOL. he hasn't even claimed what his guesses were? if he has claimed vig we could 100% confirm it since the scum RB is gone and he'd be dying anyway so nothing would be lost. as is his role is unconfirmable and only grants him supposed towncred. i think it would be perfect to fakeclaim in his position. its also the kind of role he's been designing for eimm i I don't see how this isn't a great fakeclaim basically

nope. wait. staff game maybe i don't remember how I read her. im not a big meta player i had assumed she was better than this