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Where's my no early flier and no warp option? :( (I would vote for that) Anyway, Female MU. Name: Sarah Early flier Palla Falco cuz had to vote for it. And Yubello for maximum trollage. You should seriously consider no flier no warp. It wouldnt be a magic users run with a flier :P

IKR? It was a pretty amazing dungeon. My second favorite in SS is the Sandship mostly because the time mechanic is one of the most interesting puzzle mechanics Zelda has used to this day and because I'm a big bow fan :P.

Even though it couldnt beat Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time for me. I really really enjoyed this game and it became one of my favorites after those. I loved most of the things. If I had to say something I hated, it would be the lack of option of turning Fi off. She started irritating me after a while. The story was great, so were the characters. Groosse <3 Impa <3 <3 and Ghirahim <3 <3 <3. I loved the stealth sequence where you lose all your items and the Ancient Waterway is one of my favorite dungeons in the series now. I think the enemies were also pretty interesting to fight.

ZM RNG'd the order. Kalas PKL Cyron Breezy Kalas picked Florina I picked Sain.

Yeah, Wrys should be higher. He can actually reach Again/Warp by Chapter 14.

Oh? I thought you werent going to play anymore :P. Sure, one more week.

Wow, poor Dolph. How could I forget such a beastly unit? :P As for Abel vs Est. It really all comes down to Base Arena. Est can be made into a very powerful Falcoknight in H1 (provided you are willing to sacrifice a bunch of money and Lady Sword uses). While Abel tends to cost more in the arena and is overall, less salvageable.

[spoiler=Generic Ruleset] Drafting: 1. This draft is for 5 players 2. Marth, Arran, Xane, Feena, and Rickard are free for all. My Unit is free for all, but is restricted to Female Mage, Cleric, Myrmidon, Archer, and their promoted counterparts. 3. The game will be played on Hard 1. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, visit houses, trade, and shop. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to opening chests/doors and activating Supports. 3. All characters are free for Prologue chapters. However, all drafted characters who are recruitable in the Prologue must be recruited. 4. You are free to reclass undrafted units to whatever you want. 5. All Gaiden chapters must be visited. 6. The game must be played out to the True Ending. Other: 1. Forging, the Rainbow Potion, Lunatic Statboosters and use of Wi-fi features are strictly prohibited. 2. Male Class Set Combination is allowed. 3. Warp may not be used on Marth. Rescue may not be used on Marth by a unit who has been Warped or rescued earlier in the chapter. Hammerne may not be used on Rescue. 4. Use of the Base Arena is allowed. 5. Use of the Clock Bonus is strictly prohibited. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4-turn penalty, per unit per chapter. Exceptions: 1. Palla is free for Chapter 3. 2. Yubello, Yumina, Ogma and Sirius are free for Chapter 4. 3. Navarre is free for Chapter 7. 4. Merric is free for Chapter 10. 5. Nyna, Maria, Lena and Elice are free for Final. I set out to make tier lists for drafts for each game there ever was, to catch them is my goal or something like that. :p Without further ado, I present thine Tier List to thyself: (Red= costs turns, Blue = might cost, Otherwise = doesn't cost turns) Draft Me ASAP Luke Rody Ryan Palla Catria Second Pick Cecille Draug Caeda Sirius Ogma Third Pick Barst Frey Navarre Cain Minerva Fourth Pick Gordin Yumina Linde Merric Roger Fifth Pick Dice Malice Wendell Leiden Belf Sixth Pick Etzel Malliesia Ellerean Jake Wrys Seventh Pick Caesar Jeorge Athena Katarina Cord Eigth Pick Warren Horace Yubello Radd Samto Ninth Pick Est Norne Nagi Abel Astram Tenth Pick Robert Dolph Macellan Frost Michalis Eleventh Pick Ymir Midia Darros Castor Julian Twelth Pick Matthis Samson Sheema Tomas Beck Why are you even drafting me!? Tiki Roshea Vyland Sedgar Wolf Bord Inb4 Palla not first comments.

Guys, let's end this already. CR probably won't play. So why is this still being held up? Announce Nano and me's final rating imo.

You can all start now. Good luck, have fun and please finish ^^

Drafting: 1. This draft is for 4 players. 2. Eirika/Ephraim, Orson, Tethys, and Myrrh are free for all to use. 3. Seth, Franz and Vanessa are banned from all use. 4. The game will be played on Hard Mode. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, rescue undrafted units and NPCs, trade, visit Shops and Armories and dig up items in the desert. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, and opening Doors or Chests. 3. Map shopping is allowed. 4. Skirmishes/use of the Tower or Ruins is disallowed. Skirmishes that are blocking your path may be activated and immediately fled from. 5. Defend chapters count the last played Player Phase for turns if the timer is waited out. 6. Remaining 2 units after drafting will be banned. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter. 2. Seth has a special 8 turn penalty per chapter. Exceptions: 1. Amelia can be trained in the Tower of Valni to Level 10/1, Ewan can be trained in the Tower of Valni to Level 10/5 and Marissa can be trained in the Tower of Valni to Level 9. Teams: Cyron: Garcia, Colm, Neimi, Moulder, Duessel, Knoll SB: Artur, Kyle, Joshua, Innes, Amelia, Dozla Lucina: Lute, Gilliam, Saleh, Gerik, Cormag, L'Arachel ZM: Tana, Ross, Forde, Natasha, Syrene, Ewan [spoiler=So GOOD that no one drafted them] Marisa Rennac

Done. Red = costs turns, green = doesnt. Looks kinda...weird though

Wendell costs a turn. He's good but that's usually a dealbreaker in FE11 drafts.

Yeah, I really didnt pay much attention to the last few's order since they wont get recruited. My bad, Beck IS better than them and I will fix that now. Yep. What Lucina said. Well, Radd is awful. As much as I liked to use him and get him to usability. Palla and Catria may cost 2 and 1 turn respectively, but they are solid units. It's true that they will never ever be recruited though...which is a shame. I'll probably lower them, but where to? Wolf has more spd at base and guaranteed Str on his levelups as a Hero over Sedgar. He also has more luck. There's literally only 1 spot between them anyway, its just that Sedgar didnt fit in second pick tier. Yes, for bosskilling. But Cain and Abel usually have no trouble doing that with effective weapons in H1 anyway. Specially Cain, who has Armorslayer access earlier than Abel. That is why Cain is above Abel too, despite Abel being able to fling Javelins before 6x. Caeda is really good once you get out of Chapter 3. The cavs are better there and can handle themselves in H1 against most bosses. If they get a bosskiller partner, they are > Caeda for sure. The question is, how likely is it that they will get a bosskiller? EDIT: Theorycrafted a little. The chances of the Altean Cavs getting a bosskiller for earlygame is very low. What with Navarre (Armorslayer) and Bord (Hammer) being high demand picks for exactly that...I think Caeda can hold herself better than the other 2 after Chapter 3. Specially against the Chapter 4 boss. Changes: Caeda to Top of Top. Radd up a bit. Beck over Minerva and Jeorge.

All games should have one of these. The other one was outdated. Assuming H1 First Pick Caeda Cain Abel Barst Hardin Second Pick Ogma Bord Navarre Cord Wolf Third Pick Sedgar Draug Castor Athena Wendell Fourth Pick Merric Gordin Roshea Julian Xane Fifth Pick Vyland Caesar Roger Jake Horace Sixth Pick Lena Rickard Midia Boah Matthis Seventh Pick Astram Palla Catria Etzel Darros Eight Pick Wrys Radd Elice Dolph Tomas Ninth Pick Macellan Ymir Beck Minerva Jeorge Tenth Pick Linde Est Bantu Lorenz Tiki Dont Pick me! Maria Samson Arran This was hard to tier...so many useless units. Feel free to nitpick/discuss etc

Finished #34471 Vanilla FE10 draft in 193 turns.

4-3 5/18 (173) Standard. Tanith @ Tempest Blade and Calill @ Fire forges and rexflame did most things. Valaura Micaiah completely ignored Stefan and just cleaned up in the center without taking too much action. 4-4 8/26 (181) Could've 7 turned it if Aran had the Brave Lance with him, but so lazy. Basically, Boots Aran owns things everywhere and makes his way to the Fortify Room with help from Rafiel. Titania handles the south and later the reinforcements near the Fortify Room. Pass Ike heads straight to Oliver with Pure Water and starts killing stuff while Heather tries her best to actually KILL things. She saved a turn killing priests alongside Ike. 4-5 2/28 (183) My usual 2 turn strat with Rolf and 2 other units. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 3 16 17 65 37 8 40 35 20 32 19 Sword SS Axe A Titania B Micaiah 2 19 54 38 10 30 21 25 40 15 30 Light S Staff C Sothe A Sothe 3 1 47 44 24 13 28 32 30 20 19 Knife S Micaiah A Leanne L 7 00 25 0 4 2 7 29 2 12 Tanith 3 15 02 50 32 18 36 36 26 28 29 Sword S Lance SS Calill 3 13 52 43 20 32 33 32 30 18 31 Fire SS Thunder B Wind B Staff E Rafiel L 13 80 31 1 7 1 6 32 3 14 Titania 3 16 24 51 34 15 35 32 27 26 24 Sword C Axe SS Ike B Aran 3 17 03 57 35 9 35 31 24 34 18 Lance SS Heather 3 8 45 46 22 18 32 36 33 21 23 Knife SS Reyson L 17 94 42 3 6 5 12 31 7 18 Rolf 3 9 72 57 36 8 37 33 22 27 20 Bow SS Kyza C Astrid 3 18 91 50 33 18 36 33 35 23 30 Lance A Bow A Kyza L 30 66 67 17 3 18 15 22 12 5 Strike S Rolf C 4-E-1 3/31 (186) Too little firepower for 2 turns. 4-E-2 1/32 (187) Hammer 4-E-3 1/33 (188) Wyrmslayer 4-E-4 1/34 (189) Kill Lehran. 4-E-5 4/38 (193) I tried every combination possible but my team lacks firepower and could only take like 2.5 Auras per turn. I blame Heather. Units: Gareth 1W Geoffrey 10W Heather 39W Kyza 49W Calill 57W Astrid 59W Rolf 68W Tanith 81W 5th Sothe 117B 86W 4th Micaiah 135B 101W 3rd Aran 166B 118W 2nd Ike 185B 122W 1st Titania 231B 191W

Hahahaha. I rofl'd at more reliable than Eddie. You were...joking right? right?

Growths =/= difficulty of the game

No, you are not forced to pick up Heart Containers in TP

I could restart the Wind Waker one for this. Cant guarantee I wont get bored during the Triforce Hunt quest though....

I've already done 3 heart + no fairy or healing from bottles challenges for Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. I almost did Wind Waker but I got bored in the Tingle Quest lol.

BEst

no...just no

Fiona, in the hopes that I can make her helpful for at least 1 map...