PKL

Woot. Thanks, just 1 more now...

This is a test draft to test the overall balance of the playable units thus far in the patch im working on. This is only done up to chapter 8, so we will only play up to there. About the Patch: 1. It aims to recreate the difficulty of Lunatic mode Fire Emblem 12. 2. It also aims to have a balanced cast, where all units are usable. 3. Weapons now have more hit. This is to make dodging enemies less prevalent. 4. PC growths have been increased (with the exception of Seth). Gilliam is now a Mercenary and character bases are better, for the most part. Drafting: 1. This draft is for 3 players. 2. Eirika, Ephraim, Seth, Orson, Moulder and Natasha are free for all. 3. The game will be played on Hard Mode (Easy mode crashes) up to the end of Chapter 8. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, rescue undrafted units and NPCs, trade, visit Shops and Armories and dig up items in the desert. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, and opening Doors or Chests. 3. Map shopping is allowed. 4. Skirmishes/use of the Tower or Ruins is disallowed. Skirmishes that are blocking your path may be activated and immediately fled from. 5. Defend chapters count the last played Player Phase for turns if the timer is waited out. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter. Exceptions: 1. Ross and Garcia are free for Chapter 2. 2. Colm is free for Chapter 3. 3. Vanessa may be used to rescue Ross in Chapter 2 even if she is undrafted. 4. Kyle and Forde are free to counter on EP in Chapter 8. Teams: Cam: Franz, Neimi, Lute, Forde Jedi: Gilliam, Ross, Artur, Kyle *PKL: Vanessa, Garcia, Joshua, Colm [spoiler=Wanted changes for the future] Edit the ch2 village's items. (no more pure water in the final version, so try not to get used to it) Make mogalls weak against bows. Warp completely out of the game. Make Sieglinde and Siegmund give +2 in every stat when equipped. More turnbased reinforcements (dont know how to do this yet) [spoiler=Character Changes thus far:] I'd prefer if you played blind for now :P

Tormod's combat in 4-4 when promoted is unreliable, because he starts the map in worst bio and is too frail. Muarim has no threat of dying and can contribute more by helping Ike with the generals in oliver's room. He's like a mini-nailah. And Sothe killing Jarod and Djur is kinda unreliable. Muarim makes it more reliable :P. Kurth requires a huge BEXP dump just to have terrible combat with low move in 5 maps. Oliver can at least use rescue and use purge I guess. Both are horrible but Oliver might be able to contribute with rescue or he could be recruited early in 4-4 to help clean up his room (?) i dont even know since Ive never used him lol. But he cant be worse than Kurth, right?

[spoiler=Part 3 done] 3-8 4/51 Celerity Titania gets some new Hand Axe forges and goes down after Reyson vigors her. She kills everything there. Rolf Kyza and Heather take the east enemies. Ike with Adept Wind Edge and Brave Sword takes on the west. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 2 20 -- 50 27 3 30 28 15 26 9 Sword S Titania B Titania 3 7 16 46 34 15 33 29 22 25 21 Sword C Axe SS Ike B Rolf 2 14 04 43 27 3 26 26 16 18 12 Bow A Heather 2 14 27 37 16 11 22 29 23 14 17 Knife S Reyson 1 16 52 41 3 6 5 11 31 7 17 Kyza 1 21 06 58 11 3 13 14 16 11 5 Strike A 3-9 3/54 Adept Calill goes up and kills things. She then Adept Meteors Roark. Astrid got fed kills thanks to Geoffrey. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Geoffrey 2 17 37 25 8 23 20 19 19 16 Lance A Astrid 2 6 35 15 9 18 18 19 11 17 Bow B Calill 3 2 38 16 28 25 27 24 17 25 Fire A Thunder B Wind B Staff E 3-10 4/58 Celerity Titania murders things. Ike Rolf Kyza Heather and Reyson took on the enemies on the south. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 2 20 -- 50 27 3 30 28 15 26 9 Sword S Titania B Titania 3 8 49 47 34 15 34 29 23 25 21 Sword C Axe SS Ike B Rolf 3 1 70 49 29 7 32 28 20 25 19 Bow S Heather 2 15 81 37 16 11 23 30 23 15 17 Knife S Kyza 1 22 12 59 12 3 14 15 16 11 5 Strike A 3-11 4/62 Celerity Savior Manith rescues Ike and roflstomps everything. She is literally a thwomp thanks to the Draco and Robe I gave her. Kyza is one attack away from S strike. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 2 20 -- 50 27 3 30 28 15 26 9 Sword S Titania B Tanith 3 4 43 48 29 15 29 30 24 28 24 Sword S Lance A Titania 3 8 56 47 34 15 34 29 23 25 21 Sword C Axe SS Ike B Rolf 3 1 99 49 29 7 32 28 20 25 19 Bow S Kyza C Heather 2 16 29 38 16 11 23 30 24 15 17 Knife S Kyza 1 23 06 60 26 6 30 30 16 22 10 Strike A Rolf C Astrid 2 8 87 37 16 10 20 19 20 11 18 Bow B Calill 3 3 05 39 17 28 26 28 25 17 25 Fire A Thunder B Wind B Staff E Leanne 1 6 60 25 0 4 1 6 28 2 11 3-12 3/65 Pass Aran goes down and KOs everything. Micaiah and Sothe take the ledges. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Micaiah 2 5 81 34 10 24 14 23 33 12 24 Light A Staff C Sothe A Sothe 2 15 15 40 22 7 26 27 25 16 12 Knife S Micaiah A Aran 3 2 93 50 29 8 29 28 17 28 14 Lance SS 3-13 2/67 Pass Boots Aran goes DOWN and attacks Ike with STEEL LANCE FORGE. He is in best bio and Ike was neutral bio. Aran didnt impale or crit him in PP but Ike SD'd on EP to Aran's Impale. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Micaiah 2 5 34 10 24 14 23 33 12 24 Light A Staff C Sothe A Sothe 2 15 40 22 7 26 27 25 16 12 Knife S Micaiah A Aran 3 4 51 31 8 31 28 18 30 15 Lance SS 3-E 4/71 (155) Celerity Titania rushes to boss area. Savior Tanith rescued Calill and dropped her in the boss area too. Ike killed stuff in the south. Kyza killed things in the west and obviously got to S strike at the beginning of the map. Astrid took on the northwest with Horseslayer. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Micaiah 2 5 81 34 10 24 14 23 33 12 24 Light A Staff C Sothe A Sothe 2 15 31 40 22 7 26 27 25 16 12 Knife S Micaiah A Leanne 1 6 60 25 0 4 1 6 28 2 11 Tanith 3 5 63 48 29 15 30 30 24 28 25 Sword S Lance S Calill 3 3 96 39 17 28 26 28 25 17 25 Fire A Thunder B Wind B Staff E Ike 3 1 00 54 29 7 32 30 15 28 13 Sword S Axe A Titania B Rafiel 1 12 70 31 1 6 1 6 31 3 13 Titania 3 9 30 48 34 15 34 29 24 25 21 Sword C Axe SS Ike B Aran 3 4 00 51 31 8 31 28 18 30 15 Lance SS Heather 2 16 29 38 16 11 23 30 24 15 17 Knife S Reyson 1 17 33 42 3 6 5 12 31 7 18 Rolf 3 2 25 50 30 7 33 29 21 25 19 Bow S Kyza C Astrid 3 2 84 45 25 14 29 29 30 15 24 Lance C Bow A Kyza 1 24 09 61 14 3 16 15 16 11 5 Strike S Rolf C [spoiler=Teams for route split] Silver- Micaiah Sothe Leanne Tanith Calill Greil- Ike Rafiel Titania Aran Heather Hawk- Reyson Rolf Kyza Astrid

^ looool. That's hilarious.

ok

I always rofl @ Ike saying Dont leave me! Fatheeeeeeeeer. xD. I find the BK's voice much much much better in japanese. Greil's voice is better in english. Ike's english voice is just NO. Ill take jap ike over english.

Muarim is over Tormod because Tormod cant kill the 1-7 or 1-E boss, Muarim can. Sure, Tormod can be BEXP'd to promotion and made decently useful, but Muarim can be BEXP'd and he can ORKO generals in the map even with A Strike. This lets him help Ike clean Oliver's room much faster. Muarim>Tormod. There's no way Heather can be your main GM, assuming no RNG abuse. Let's look at the facts: Heather's bases: Level 7 HP 32 Str 15 Mag 9 Skl 21 Spd 25 Lck 16 Def 10 Res 14 Knife C She's 8 away from capping HP, 7 from str, 6 from mag, 4 from skl, 5 from spd, 24 from lck, 10 from def and 3 from res. Heather's growths: 40 25 20 50 70 75 30 40 Assuming she gets BEXP'd to .99 and she gets a level in 2-2, we have: 32.40 15.25 9.20 21.50 25.70 16.75 10.30 14.40 Actually, lets be generous and say she got the boss kill in the map after stealing the Secret Book: 32.80 15.50 9.40 22 26.40 17.50 10.60 14.80 Then, she gets BEXP'd in 2-E to Level 17 (taking all your BEXP): In her 10th level she would get: skl spd lck 32.80 15.50 9.40 23 27 18 10.60 14.80 11th level: skl spd lck 32.80 15.50 9.40 24 28 19 10.60 14.80 12th level: skl spd lck 32.80 15.50 9.40 25 29 20 10.60 14.80 she capped skl here, her next highest growth is hp, tied with res. 13th level: spd lck res/hp (lets say res since she can cap it faster) 32.80 15.50 9.40 25 30 21 10.60 15 she now capped spd. So shes going to get hp and res and lck. 14th level: hp lck res 33 15.50 9.40 25 30 22 10.60 16 15th level: hp lck res 34 15.50 9.40 25 30 23 10.60 17 she capped res, so now her next highest growth starts proc'ing, guess what? it isnt str. 16th level: hp lck def 35 15.50 9.40 25 30 24 11 17 17th level: hp lck def 36 15.50 9.40 25 30 25 12 17 Even if you somehow get her more levels, she still isnt going to start proc'ing str with BEXP anytime soon. Let's say she joins you in 3-2 with 16 str. Steel Knive forges have 9 MT and cost around 2000G with max MT and a lot more if you go for crit (which she might sorely need) and only have 20 uses. We're looking at 25 MT 30 AS 125-145 Hit (a bit more if you also give it the knive forge a bit of hit). She can use Adept, so lets also assume it. She will 3HKO sages so she does fine vs them as long as she procs Adept which might happen often thanks to 30 spd. She does good vs swordmasters. She barely damages halberdiers and like, 8HKOs them. Same with Paladins. Dont even think of her not tinking Generals. Or Dragonknights... Now she gets BEXP'd in 3-3 to Tier 2: 18th level: hp lck def 37 15.50 9.40 25 30 26 13 17 19th level: hp lck def: hp lck def 38 15.50 9.40 25 30 27 14 17 20th level: hp lck def 39 15.50 9.40 25 30 28 15 17 Tier 2 promo gains: +4 +3 +4 +2 +2 +0 +3 +4 43 18.50 13.40 27 32 28 18 21 Now we're looking at 27 MT with a steel knive forge and her BEXP situation is still the same as always. She needs 2 levels on average to get a str proc now. She has innate pass and can have a celerity pass combination, which is cool. 3-3 is actually really kind to her if she can stay alive since she doesnt get care about killing enemies, just to get to the crates ASAP. TL;DR: her BEXP situation is pretty bad without resources. With resources like the Secret Book assumed in Part 2: 10th level: skl spd lck 32.80 15.50 9.40 25 27 18 10.60 14.80 Capped skl, not bad. 11th level: spd lck res 32.80 15.50 9.40 25 28 19 10.60 15 Let's give her the Talisman too now so she can cap res. 12th level: hp spd lck 33 15.50 9.40 25 29 20 10.60 17 13th level: hp spd lck 34 15.50 9.40 25 30 21 10.60 17 she now caps spd. 14th level: hp lck def 35 15.50 9.40 25 30 22 11 17 15th level: hp lck def 36 15.50 9.40 25 30 23 12 17 16th level: hp lck def 37 15.50 9.40 25 30 24 13 17 17th level: hp lck def 38 15.50 9.40 25 30 25 14 17 Let's give her 3 more levels >_> 18th level: hp lck def 39 15.50 9.40 25 30 26 15 17 19th level: hp lck def 40 15.50 9.40 25 30 27 16 17 20th level: str (finally) lck def 40 16 9.40 25 30 28 17 17 That is still unimpressive. She will still have 26 MT, which fails to ORKO everything. TL;DR- Heather is still bad even with a book and talisman for BEXP. The cost is just too high and the chance that she procs str is way too low due to other stats taking all the priority when BEXP'd. I'd rather draft Shinon and Rolf. They have 28 MT with a crossbow which is surprisingly much better than Heather, and they can nuke stuff in PP or from behind fences in EP (and with clever use, can have a short EP against 1-2 range enemies :P) So you were complaining about the hawk's lack of 2 range and now u hail Naesala as a good pick because of his silver army? I dont even know what to say man. I dont agree with Naesala>tibarn btw. Hawk Army 4-2 is one of the hardest part 4 maps to LTC and tibarn helps a lot if you draft him there. On the other hand, even scrubs can do Silver Army well. Kurthnaga's Night Tide does nothing and hes not a viable combat unit. At least Ena's Blood tide could help, maybe. Mist isnt even filler. She's just, a big mess of a unit. :/ I think Stefan smashing 2 warriors near him in 4-3 and his endgame is better than Mist lool. Let's evaluate Danved's contributions: Getting the speedwing in 2-3. Getting the other speedwing in 3-9 and being able to go up the ledge (doesnt save turns but its still...something?) Arrives in 3-11 where foot units are unwanted. Might get BEXP'd. 3-E is flier and paladin land too, so hes largely unneeded... Free route which is nice, but who wants an underleveled foot unit? Maybe Greil Army? Meh endgame due to not having hammer access in 4-E-1 and 33 AS for the rest of the maps isnt exactly...ideal. Yeah, I think he deserves to be that low... Having Fiona as your main DB is basically a death sentence. You forfeit your BEXP, your 1-8. Your 3-6 will be troublesome too...your 3-12 might be good if you give her the boots and pass lol...Her str might bite though. And 3-13 is meh due to the ledges... Like I said before, her only real possible contribution is 4-2... Oh god that took sooooo long...

Huh? Ive never had any trouble RN burning in GBA. Just trade Steel Sword to Eirika with Seth move seth to the west as far as you can, then move the cursor up through the river until he lands in the northwesternmost tile of the map and wait there. Then move Eirika 2 spaces right and watch her raep.

God help me. Im not responding to that wall of text now lol. But you're wrong, as always

Vanessa Franz Tana Artur Garcia

Macellan.

Badd

Gaggles

The Migthy Midia.

Elice.

Xane.

Cord.

Wolf.

Shiida

Even with a drop and BEXP assumed, Leonardo will still have trouble doing anything in 3-6 reliably. He might get lucky and get 3HKO'd, maybe, in a thicket tile. And I told you we are assuming a character pick's worth by analyzing what they can do on their own in their team. Try doing a Leo solo. Sigrun vs Hawks. Range is never that much of a problem in Part 4 except for 4-P maybe. Ive never had trouble with 1 range units in the desert. Hawks have more availabilty, more reliability, more maps, better offense, dont require BEXP rigging for str, have a better mastery. The list goes on. Lethe vs Mordy: Lethe requires a sizeable BEXP dump in Part 2. And then she has cat gauge issues and her combat and contributions are just plain mediocre throughout. Meanwhile, Mordecai can get a Speedwing and double some things, can OHKO stuff, doesnt require constant babying, has a better gauge and durability for better Enemy Phase exposure. The list goes on and on too. Pelleas: Fine, you convinced me of this one. Pelleas>Nasir now.

Yeah, I guess he can javelin and then Silver Lance. Wouldnt the mage reinforcement cause problems to Arran tho?

[spoiler=More Part 3 Progress] 3-3 7/20 Titania goes north and solos there. Celerity Rolf goes for the northeast crate. Heather gets me the Master Crown and the northwest crate. Ike gets me the middle one. Gatrie gets Blossom and the south crates. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 2 14 11 47 25 3 30 25 14 23 8 Sword S Titania C Titania 3 3 60 43 31 14 29 26 21 25 19 Sword C Axe SS Ike C Rolf 2 7 75 38 22 3 22 21 14 14 10 Bow B Heather 2 9 77 34 16 10 22 25 18 11 14 Knife B 3-4 7/27 Celerity Provoke Ike gets BEXP'd and he GOES up and destroys everything. He used Brave Sword on Generals and Rolf killed the Dracoknight in the way so Ranulf could arrive. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 2 18 40 50 27 3 30 27 15 26 8 Sword S Titania C Titania 3 4 23 44 32 14 30 27 21 25 20 Sword C Axe SS Ike C Rolf 2 9 62 39 23 3 24 23 15 15 10 Bow B Heather 2 10 40 34 16 11 22 26 19 11 15 Knife B Kyza 1 19 30 56 11 3 11 12 15 11 5 Strike A 3-5 1/28 Celerity Titania goes down and KOs a general on the left (the one thats most to the north) and cantos. Reyson gets smitten by Rolf and vigors Titania and cantos back. Heather rescues him. Titania goes down and kills a random paladin next to the boss and cantos next to the boss with a silver axe equipped. In EP, Titania kills things and the boss SDs to her. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 2 18 40 50 27 3 30 27 15 26 8 Sword S Titania C Titania 3 5 75 45 33 14 31 27 21 25 21 Sword C Axe SS Ike C Rolf 2 9 99 39 23 3 24 23 15 15 10 Bow B Heather 2 11 00 35 16 11 22 27 20 12 15 Knife B Reyson 1 15 10 40 3 5 5 11 31 6 17 3-6 7/35 Miccy and Sothe take the northwest and Aran goes northeast. He OHKOs everything with Beastfoe and the steel Lance forge. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Micaiah 2 4 ?? 34 9 23 14 22 32 12 23 Light B Staff C Sothe A Sothe 2 15 40 22 7 26 27 25 16 12 Knife S Micaiah A Aran 2 12 45 26 3 26 23 13 25 7 Lance A 3-7 12/47 Ike goes for the BK. Haar recruits Jill, who has Savior with her. Unit Tier Lv Xp HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res WLvs Suppport Ike 2 20 -- 50 27 3 30 28 15 26 9 Sword S Titania C Titania 3 5 82 45 33 14 31 27 21 25 21 Sword C Axe SS Ike C Rolf 2 12 17 42 25 3 25 25 15 17 11 Bow A Heather 2 13 50 37 16 11 22 28 22 13 17 Knife S Reyson 1 16 11 41 3 6 5 11 31 7 17 Kyza 1 20 64 57 11 3 12 13 16 11 5 Strike A

Im interested, despite my backlog. I can always join FE11 NM drafts since they take less than a day :P