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Judging by the fact that we have only seen Str/Dex/Mag/Cha used for recruiting, I doubt any more stats will be relevant to recruiting as it wouldn't make sense for houses that couldn't have one of each. The Blue lions currently has no str requester, so I am certain that Felix will require Swords and Strength which should be really easy to catch. The Golden deer currently has no Dex requester so likewise I am sure Ignatz will want Dex. As for the skill, I would have said Reason but LSM figured out it could only be Swords, Lances, Brawling, Riding and Armour. Of these I could only see Swords or Riding fitting. We haven't seen a skill be required more than once in one house, and since Marianne wants Riding, I would assume Ignatz wouldn't be that as well. So Swords and Dexterity for Ignatz.
For Black Eagles, I have no concrete evidence for anything, although a quick guess would be, Linhardt: Lances and Magic, Ferdinand: Axes and Charisma, Bernadetta: Bows and Dexterity. These are just based of the relics of each saint but could and will be completely wrong.
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As far as i'm aware it is the 6th month, and since we start in the 4th month, it is technically our 3rd month.
Edit: This was meant to be directed at @Bk1234, I don't know how the quote disappeared.
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2 hours ago, Odang77 said:
Ok stupid question, does anyone know lysithea's stats that need to be a certain level im planning to do blavk eagles my first playthrough but i want to have mercedes and lysithea on my team as well.
Magic and Faith.
37 minutes ago, Owain Dark said:A very important question from me. So im going with Dimitri but need to recruit best boi Raphael. Does anyone knows(!) What he needs to be recruited?
Strength and Heavy Armour.
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11 hours ago, Eryon said:
How is the Black Eagles being more imporrant than other houses any different from past games where one Lord in a set was more important than other Lords (Alm over Celica, Eliwood over Hector and Lyn regardless of Lyn being used as a poster girl, Eirika over Ephraim, Ike over Micaiah, Chrom and Robin over Lucina)?
Because It's a completely different topic. In Fe7's case it's three lords on the same team going on a journey. In Fe16, you have to make a choice between the three lords and that decision will be heavily influenced by the marketing of the game, which up until recently, favoured Black Eagles. If Edelgard receives a large amount of favouritism it can invalidate the other routes for some people, as they are not valid, or canon. Think of it like if IS was advertising fates, but while one the one hand telling you to make a choice, they were also handing out leaflets saying to pick Conquest. This would influence most players who were interested in Fates to buy Conquest, and thereby not care about Birthright as much. Revelations is a good example of trying to make on path more canon than the others, and it failing abysmally. What i'm basically trying to say is that if a game is advertised as a choice between 3 houses, but one house is much more important than the others, then it's less of a choice and more of annoyance. So it's quite different to other games' approaches.
However, just because I have explained why it's a bad idea, doesn't mean I think it will happen. For example when the main theme was titled "Young Maiden from Hresvleg" people, including me got a bit mad at the favouritism. But recently we've seen the same song titled "Edge of Dawn", so it's likely the former name was just for the song' release with the artist, or maybe it is the name of the song in Japan. I don't really know. But overall I have faith that even though from a pure world-building aspect Edelgard is much more important than the others, being the descendant of Serios, the main lords will all be equally important in the actual story. Small, kind of related example is in Fe4, where from a pure world building base, Julia is the most important character in gen 2, being the descendant of Naga, but Seliph is the main character in the Story, even though he is descended from Baldur who isn't that important compared to other characters. I understand there are major differences between this example and Three houses, but I still have faith that Is wouldn't do something that stupid, especially because they said they like all houses equally, so it wouldn't make sense for them to intentionally favouritise one.
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3 hours ago, SaintDane127 said:
you cannot individually instruct a character with no weaknesses.
I was thinking about doing a run like this a few days back and i was trying to come up with a way to handicap the 3 Ferdinand's, but I don't know why I didn't think of that. I love it.
One downside is that most people won't be able to reach master classes without rolling the dice on the test and you physically can't train them in anything else. For example Sylvain would stop at Sniper, and wouldn't be able to go further, whereas Linhardt actually has the perfect setup for War Master coincidentally. But I guess that just adds to the challenge of it.
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Hidden for Length, not spoilers. My Plans for Blue Lions.
Only Blue Lions so far because they are the easiest house for canon paths imo.
SpoilerByleth: Myrmidon - Mercenary - Hero - War Master.
Focusing Swords, Axes and Brawling. Also Thief for when I need two lock pickers and when I need to steal, Byleth's OP anyway so their combat should be fine. Also considering Wyvern Lord if I get enough seals.
Dimitri: Soldier - Cavalier - Paladin - Canon Class most likely.
Focusing Lances, Swords and authority, but maybe riding, Faith and Bows instead. I wanted him to be mounted but since there is no direct Paladin master class so far, and I don't know if I'll have time to make him a Holy or Bow knight as I have a lot of training with other students to do, I'll have to make do. Maybe his Canon class will end up being mounted but I'm almost positive it won't be.
Dedue: Fighter - Armoured Knight and Cavalier - Fortress Knight and Paladin - Great Knight
Focusing Axes, Lances, Riding and Armour. This or War Master and Mounted is normally better. Cavalier and Paladin re classes occasionally to try and raise his Riding rank up enough as it is a weakness. I wanted Gauntlets on him as well to make up for poor speed but my Lance and Riding training will probably take up all the time. He is on stable duty every single week.
Felix: Myrmidon and Monk - Mercenary and Mage - Swordmaster and Warlock - Mortal Savant
Focusing Swords, Brawling and Reason. What other class would work? Hopefully his hidden talent skill is useful to make the (hopefully quick) weakness removal process worth it. If I get 2 Dark Seal, I'd consider that line of magic instead but Sylvain gets first dibs, and I'll have to see the differences between them to see which is better for him. Brawling for the sweet +20 Damage with no, or damaged battalion, plus more chances to stack his crest and make use of Annette's skill.
Ashe: Fighter - Archer and Cavalier - Paladin, and Maybe Sniper if I can be fucked - Bow Knight.
Focusing Lances, Bows and Riding. Budding Talent in Lances, strength in Bows, he's perfect. Unlike some of the other candidates, I don't need to concern myself with Ashe' Riding skills because I can keep him on Horseback while still letting him use his Bows, which is the problem with most of the mage cavalier wannabe's, they can't.
Sylvain: Soldier and Monk - Cavalier and Dark Mage - Paladin and Dark Bishop - Dark Knight.
Focusing Lances, Reason and Riding. His strengths and budding talent made this obvious. I was going to make him a Wyvern lord and join Ingrid in the skies, but that budding talent Reason is too tempting to pass up. Figured I'd make him the Dark Mage as the dark Knight requirement exams mentioned something about needing B+ reason (Dark Magic). I think this might be a mistake but better safe than sorry, and again, like with Felix i'll need to see the differences until I know what's best for him.
Annette: Monk - Mage - Warlock - Gremory.
Focusing Reason, Faith and Authority. Finally, a simple one. I don't care much for giving pure mages physical weapons, but I'll keep an Axe on her just in case. I am considering the Dark knight line though, as she doesn't have a strength in Faith, and her personal skill is much more useful if she can get to more people. But that could mean one less healer (I'm still unsure if classes like Dark knight and Mortal Savant can use Faith magic and vice-versa. It seems likely that they can but I'll have to be sure, and it means even more people suffering form a severe lack of Horse training. Why cant' we let our students teach each other. Ingrid! Dimitri! Sylvain! Teach Mercedes, Dedue and Annette how to stop falling off their damn horse!!!
Mercedes: Monk - Cleric and Cavalier - Bishop and Paladin - Holy Knight.
Focusing Lances, Bows, Faith and Riding. This one is going to hurt. I love the class but Mercedes' weakness in Lances sucks. Thankfully only C rank is required, I think I can do that. The A Riding sucks though, and that's the only reason I am bothering to train her in Bows, her budding Talent. Why is that, you ask? So she can get mounted battle experience without dying from one hit!!! If Annette was to go Dark Knight I would consider Gremory for Mercedes, as it is a lot nicer and both of her strengths lie with that class. But Holy Knight sounds badass and I have a crippling addiction to mounted, physical combat healers, though I would hardly define Mercedes as such. That's would be more Dimitri. Maybe I should consider Holy Knight for him. Hmmmmm. Anyway like Dedue this automobile is spending all her free time in the stables so I hope those two find some enjoyment out of each others company (Yes I ship it)
Ingrid: Soldier - Pegasus Knight - Paladin or Nothing if I don't feel like it - Falcon Knight.
Focusing Swords, Lances and Flying. And finally, another easy choice. Only Dilemma here is can I be bothered to train yet another character in Riding just so I can have an Advanced class. I probably will in the end, but there is always the possibility I stay Pegasus knight.
And Finally, since I heard most maps allow 10 units, and you start of with 9, I shall be recruiting 1 member of staff/other character to be my Dancer. I don't want to take Students on my first playthroughs and interrupt the natural story. It might end up being Manuela as she seems perfect for the job, but I don't really care for her character so everyone is still on the board. Of course I will eventually recruit all the non - students I can, but I won't be using the adjudicant system as i never liked Pair up, and I probably won't swap out my main team for them, so apart from the dancer, they only see use if the Map limit allows it.
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3 hours ago, timon said:
Now admittedly it could be that that lock doesn't represent the timeskip, but just the fact that something "unlocks" master tier while advanced is available makes it so master>advanced.
I think we've seen that you just need Professor level C to unlock it, there is a picture somewhere of the lock being hovered over and it mentioning needing it. My bet is that they will be available school phase, just hard to get to and might require a focus on battling and levelling up at the weekends.
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43 minutes ago, timon said:
also the fact that they come at a later level and they're locked behind the timeskip pretty much destroys that possibility.
Isn't this statement clearly wrong though? In the video we can see both Lorenz and Bernadetta in their pre-timeskip designs in Great Knight and Bow Knight respectively. It's much more likely that he just didn't get round to unlocking them because if they weren't available, then how the hell is there footage of them.
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2 hours ago, Jayvee94 said:
There's no one stopping you from wielding a Bow or an Axe as a Mortal Savant, a Bow or a Sword as a War Master, a Sword with any Riding Class etc.
The problem is the requirements to take the exam. If you want to use a Bow or an Axe in Mortal Savant, you also have to train up skills in Swords and Reason to presumably A or B rank, just to then cast aside those high level skills and uses Bows instead. Having to level up your skills to pass an Exam means it is almost pointless to go into a class that doesn't at least have one of your preferred weapons as a speciality. I you're going to spend a bunch of time getting your Axe and Brawling rank to A for War Master, there isn't much point in also focusing on Swords so you might as well just go for axes. So I agree with Etheus, the lack of options for all classlines is weird, though as many people have said, it is possible that Advanced classes (Aside from the fliers, and the gender exclusive upgrades) will be the same strength as the hybrid masters.
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19 minutes ago, Samurai Hinata said:
I made a class tree (how I see it) yesterday, thought I'd share it here:
I agree with most of this stuff, However the Thief and Assassin are definitely from Myrmidon and not Fighter. For one the thief exam requires C Swords and no Bow skill, thieves have always been more Sword based, and Thief is next to Mercenary on the class list.
Also I think the Wyvern path and the Armoured Knight path both fall under Fighter, as both exams want Axe skill, not Lance skill.
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In Kotaku's monastery video, Lysithea and Ignatz had E+ Authority at level 1. Not sure if that means a strength or if they have already been tutored in it but thought I'd say.
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4 minutes ago, Rakath said:
I'm wondering if certain classes only show up if you've mastered the class before (outside of the confirmed Dark Mage/Dark Bishop) line, as I don't see Gremory on Byleth. Or Mortal Servant on Dorothea. When the exemplar for Mortal Servant was Catherine.
I think this just means that Gremory is Female only, while War master is the Male only equivalent. That makes me a bit made, because if Gremory(why couldn't they just call it sage) is the most powerful spellcaster, then why would they limit it to females only? That seems unfair for male spell casters, while with classes like War master and Hero you can still use those weapons in similar classes, Gremory is the only class with maximum magic ability. I guess because the only canon Male spellcasters are Hubert, Linhardt and Hanneman( a lot less than the female ones) and they will most likely be going Dark knight and Holy knight accordingly, it might be okay in practise. But that still really annoys me that they don't have the option.
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22 hours ago, Cysx said:
There's great knight. It requires armored skill, not mounted for some reason.
22 hours ago, Nio said:There is. Its the Greath Knight, its mounted but you dont need to have Mounted skill for it, but Armour insted. It is shown in the video
Remember, the skills shown aren't what is required to take the exam, they are the skills the class boosts during combat. Since they are still mounted I would assume that the exam would have requirements of Lances, Riding and Heavy Armour, while the skills it boosts are Axes, Lances and Armour.
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Bit unrelated, but I've been wondering about this and you seem like you know a lot about the teaching part of the game. How much work do you need to put into a hidden talent to unlock it's potential? Is it based on tutoring alone? Can combat improve it? Is it rank based? Idk, and it's annoying me. Do we have any inclination of how that works, or do we still need more info on that?
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1 hour ago, timon said:
(eg. Linhardt's spear is after reason and faith, Byleth's faith is after authority but there's a lot more).
LSM covered that in the article. It's because the character didn't start of with that skill unlike the others, and has equipped it later when they receive it. Linhardt only starts with Reason and Faith, then afterwards he learnt authority and then Lances. Same with Byleth and all the other examples.
They're a clever monkey. I wouldn't have figured that out on my own for sure.
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If you go to 5:02 you see that Sylvain and Dimitri do not receive Blue arrows for their work in the stables, even though both of these characters have been proven to be skilled in Riding. Therefore these arrows pertaining to the group tasks are not accurate to the strengths and weaknesses of characters. So we don't know if Hubert and Dorothea are actually weak in flying because the arrow isn't related to skill levels. Much like Food and Choir practise it just shows how good they are at the task based on their character.
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1 hour ago, LSM said:
The Abilities in the combat forecast seem to be arranged in a consistent pattern of Personal/Class/Skill. And so far, while we know you can select the Skill Abilities (with a max five equippable) they seem to be pretty consistently organised as characters get them.
1 hour ago, Cysx said:Sylvain lacks one of the skills Dimitri has because class skills are logically tied to class mastery, in which Dimitri has 94/100 at the start and Sylvain 19/100.
Alright fair enough, That seems like it's probably true.
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1 hour ago, Cysx said:
That's an assumption, isn't it? We already know of classes getting skills that weren't revealed, namely Pegasus knight(through Ingrid in the japanese overview trailer) and probably Cavalier(through Dimitri in the King of Beasts map).
While that is true, how do you know that those extra abilities are tied to the classes and not levelling up your weapons skills or through hidden talents. We have seen Dorothea gain an ability through hidden talents and it's just as fair to say that weapon ranks can give you extra abilities as it is to say classes give you extra ones. On the topic of the Cavalier extra abilities, from what I could see, Dimitri has 3 extra abilities that we did not know about ( The arrow shield, the boot and the fire arrow), if you say that these are cavalier abilities then why does Sylvain have none of them and instead has a different sparkly plus one. Sylvain is only 7 levels lower than Dimitri so why would he have 1 extra cavalier skill when Dimitri has 3 that are completely different. I say that these are not linked to classes but Weapon levels, hidden talents and possibly even Battalions that could grant skills. We don't know, and are just making assumptions as you said. I do think that classes might get a new skill on class mastery, but neither Dimitri nor Sylvain had yet achieved that.
Edit: In fact looking at the abilities section of this site, it says that the fire arrow is an ability linked to Authority. Therefore I think it is fair to say that other abilities would be linked to weapon levels, and not just combat arts. Perhaps Hubert's rally magic came from his Reason and not his class. That's what I think at least
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5 minutes ago, Timlugia said:
They might set him up as a good guy pre-release but turned out completely opposite as plot twist. This also applies to two others, especially Edelgard.
I mean I don't think they are hiding the fact that Edelgard is a bit evil (not evil necessarily but opposed to you) as we have seen her fighting Byleth. Byleth is you therefore they must be correct and good and Edelgard must be flawed. In addition she is giving of major Lawful Evil vibes for me and I think it was pretty obvious from the trailer she will not be a good guy. The only one they are trying to trick us with is Claude.
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44 minutes ago, NekoKnight said:
They also can't use dark magic because....reasons.
Slight correction, They can use dark magic, they just can't be in a specialised class for it. And by specialised I mean get a free Miasma, as Mages are still proficient in dark magic. We've seen shots of Lysithea wielding a dark tome from famitsu. The difference in learning Anima or Dark magic will almost certainly be different for each character. As Mage and Dark mage only have 1 spell that makes them different. Leveling reason (and faith) is how you receive spells and each character will have a different list. For example Hubert might learn more dark magic spells than Anima, and Annette might not learn any dark magic at all. The class itself only really grants 1 spell so it's likely that Lysithea will have access to a number of dark magic spells as part of her list.
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1 hour ago, SilverArcher said:
The 3 lords are shown to wield hero relics post timeskip and they all have minor crest.
1 hour ago, NekoKnight said:The question I have is "what is the point in having two types if only one of the students even gets a major crest?" Other characters (Catherine for example) probably have Major crests too but they seem like an outlier, which makes me thing there will be some way to upgrade minor crests into major ones.
It's unlikely, but considering this game has made such a bid deal of "Crest research", there has to be some shenanigans that are discovered because otherwise it is pointless. Whether it's transplanting crests into people without them (Linhardt giving Edelgard her second crest theory), or if it's about upgrading them or both. There is a lot more to this system than the Holy blood and I don't think it will be as simple as we might think. So the lords having relics might be from them getting a potential upgrade. Again there is no evidence to support it currently but i'd be willing to bet on it.
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28 minutes ago, redlight said:
Oh yeah. I hope they learned from extreme growth bonuses holy blood gives. That was some insane stuff.
I mean...I kind of liked that. Though admittedly it would be hard to balance in this type of game, but I would like it if there is a notable difference between being Major and Minor because otherwise, what is the point of having 2 types? Also in the French Japan expo I believe Ingrid used her crest and it gave her more damage than was displayed, and she has a minor one, so hopefully it should be a bit more to having a Major crest than just small effects. I mean, only allowing Majors to use the relics would be an easy one but that hasn't been mentioned as far as I know.
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If Petra is good with Riding then she is the first and only character to have 5 Strengths: Swords, Axes, Bows, Riding and Flying. Very unlikely for me, though it could potentially be a hidden talent as we haven't seen one for her yet.
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I mean I really hate Eirika, like I Really hate her. Celica is alright, and I quite like Lyn, but the male lords in those games were always more interesting for me. One exception is Micaiah because I find her way more interesting than Ike (No offensive Ike fans, I liked him a lot in PoR especially when he defends Elincia from the Begnion senate, but he isn't that interesting.) I don't think we will have anything to worry about with Three houses though because it seems like all the lords have an equal presense and in fact, they might be going the other way and have Edelgard slightly overshadow Dimitri and Claude because she has been presented as way more important, what with all the trailer focuses, crest of Serios, only known character with possibly 2 crests, has 2 relics and The main theme of the game is named after her. I'm pretty positive about it though, and my only real hope is that the three lords aren't too different in terms of story importance.
Master Classes Picture/Video
in Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Posted · Edited by SpiceMan
1. Brigand requires only a C in Axes for a 100% success rate. No brawling is needed and a C in Brawling will not raise the chance by 1 bit.
2. While Fighter(the class you probably meant by Brigand) and Monk only require one of the skills, that is because they are beginner classes and it would be unfair to make axe users have to train bows and brawling for their first class.
3. Warrior requires only an A in Axes so there is no way a Master class will have the same, and possibly easier requirements if you could pick either.
4. War Master is a Master Class. Most Master class have at least 2 A's (Bow Knight has 2 A's in Bows and Riding and a C in Lances), so A in Axes and Brawling isn't even that demanding.
you can always risk the exam but without a score of at least B in Brawling I'd say your odds would be below 50%, so you will have to train them.
@timon
If you really hate Gauntlets that much you can just set them as one of your 2 focuses and have it rack up in the background, while never having to actually use it.
I don't know which character's you specifically want to be a war master, but if it's someone who has a strength in Brawling then they will get there in no time. I'll use Caspar as an example. It takes 1320 exp to get from E to A. He starts with an E+ which elimates 40 of that exp from the start leaving you with a needed 1280 exp. If Brawling is set to one of his focuses he gains 32exp every week in that because he has a strength in it(28 for neutral, 24 for weakness). 1280/32 = 40 weeks until A rank in Gauntlets. That's 10 Months so by the end of Month 2 you will be finished and will then be able to take the War Master exam with no chance of failure. This will probably be just in time for Master classes as I don't see you reaching level 30 before month 2 very easily. However if you do and you want War master faster then you can just throw that character in a few seminars with Catherine or Alois(probably him as he does Axes too), or just tutor it a bit.
That's A rank in Brawling in 10 Months with absolutely no actual use of them. Downside is you can only have one other focus but if you are going war master then it's likely to be Axes and Gauntlets anyway.