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How is that a kaze from birthright? You still keep him and he basically tanks it to give your lower lvl unit exp. This is meant to be clutch but not abused easily. Besides he could take a couple of battle with that before he dies. If he 20 in every stat and gets to lose 5 to each stat every time it happens than the unit could recover and still be around. If the enemy have 10 more points in stats than you then would die. The minus in stats could be a injured status. Again it a matter of execution. Hell I’d see this unit saving you in the prologue and explain that it might not go as smoothly if this keeps up as you progress. They would warn you to learn strategy or this could lead to your troops dying. They would only die permanently if you pass a threshold

It’s like any creative idea. It not about the idea itself but how it is included. Hence why I propose changing the gameplay or world. Modern FE doesn’t these scenarios into account ever since the turn back mechanics. It also impacted their map design somewhat slightly. Another way to implement a promoted unit is to make them save you a la King Mickey from KH2 where if you lose you play as him and give yourself a second chance. An easy way to do this would that if that scenario happens is to make all the exp be given to you lost unit and bring them back. At a certain point if the story requires you to lose that unit you could B support them to save them. That way they can fight but at lowered stats if you lose. That it not an instant my units are permanently dead. That way you can try again the map and learn from it since you can’t rewind but you have a general idea of how this map goes after that. If you B support them then they would die thus giving you incentive to train everyone but also pay attention to support other than waifus/husband is

While it could work these unit would have to come later. Pre promoted unit like in prologue are reset to lvl 1 after promotion but with better stats. Having them with higher stats without the lvl would incentivize the player to not train the others. So either a already promoted unit or they come later and that also means the player has to play and by then Intys might introduce the turn back wheel once again. So the question isn’t about the unit, it about how the world and game would be structured if this was a main focus?

Personally while I am hyped for three hopes I think it a disturbing mindset. We have Shez as the new avatar. At the end of the first trailer we Female Byleth in her awakened one state and Shez seems to have one of his/her own. This to me seems bad it means that they haven’t fix the avatar since they are regressing from Byleth. By making Shez talk and have an Agarthan equivalent to Sothis in Arval it makes Byleth mute stillborn case more on Rhea fault and makes some elements of three houses writing even worse in retrospect. They also confirmed Holst or Hilda’s brother that we never saw but heard which screams them knowing people complaints about the original. I will reserve judgment when I play it but somehow it’s seems likes the devs got the game award price and then got bashed later for dog and cats worthless DLC. Then they became aware of Holts with the fans had to make a game since dry season and backlash. To me this screams don’t hates for 5 avatar in row. Again I wait before saying but is my analysis pre release since it does seem that way

Yes. I just don’t want it to steal the spot light. I want to earn it. I don’t want to be in the shoes of a specified backstory character. It kills immersion since it meant to be MY avatar. Hell support could work like bonding after a hard fight. Could even have an RNG about if it went well or not.

No Kris stole the spotlight and was the grand Child of an Atlean Knight. I want a random with no ties whatsoever

Great Shez has the Agarthan goddess in him/her. It’s on the wikis rn. Can you please give a avatar without being related to the MC, Gods, or dragon, or all these. I want my avatar as a random nobody. Also every Avatar has being nothing but dog shit from Intys. Learn from the west and D&D you island Asian xenophobes

Ok so we’re fucked…

True hence why if Avatar must return I want them to be a playable generic village. The game over screen could just be that your character died but they still succeeded, you just weren’t there to see. Making an avatar the mc is stupid as it puts them in a bad and hard writing spots. Samurai Warriors 4 Empires did it good with Avatar as you pick a personality type and your Avatar DOESNT get along with everyone. All the avatar that I saw ( were Gary/Mary sues. Kris stole Marth shine. Robin was tied to the Final boss this needed to be there. Corrin is Literally his biological kid and three nation revolves around them. Byleth has just god herself in him/her. Everyone flocks to them. Really would it hurt Inty to just make the avatar a nobody?

I said big as it makes other characters less developed. I never said on literal size. My point is that Byleth can befriend anybody in a year before the war but people brings pitchforks on harem of like 4 people max and a timeline of 10 years. My point was they weren’t developed at every good angle. I wasn’t trolling as to me forty is too much. It like danganronpa franchise to me and someone ask me who Sayaka is and I awnser who?

3Houses had a way too big cast like fates of character. It didn’t help that every story part was divided into months as chapters. Byleth relationships are just horrible. This game would have benefited from Byleth being voiced and not an avatar. I’ve seen many of my friends getting turned off by Byleth looking at Sothis blankly and trusting her that easily. Dude you have a spirit in your body and when you talk with her you get emotions that you should have. They say Byleth is a great strategist or smart merc but they don’t see red flags about that or their dad telling them to not trust Rhea. FYI I don’t mind Byleth becoming friends or more with Sothis but their build up with her and the church is just retarded. When fanfiction does better with MC and it an insult you know that there is something wrong. Byleth needed way more development than what they had for devions they made. A year teaching someone isn’t enough for a teacher to care about the face of its students. Naruto has a bond with Iruka because they knew each other for more than a year. Naruto entered the academy at 6 and left it at twelve so even though they didn’t became friends until Naruto graduated they still knew each other for like 6 years.

Yay didn’t remember the win conditions but I knew that map caught off guard in a good way hence why I liked it. This was gameplay and level design at it finest. I don’t hate turn wheel, I do hate how they don’t incorporate it into the map designs and as such makes hard map basically consequences free. It a SRPG so I wanna strategize dammit. All the turn wheel does that way is make me oh…don’t do that and no consequences. I prefer my 3Houses let’s play when I don’t use it period. Speaking of Edward of the Tellius games, doesn’t these game have a benched XP system? BlazingKnight a FE YouTube said do but don’t quote me on this as I don’t have them.

The one where Dorkas joins you and his bandit buddies tries to swarm your team while your protecting his wounded wife inside a broke watchtower. You have to tout them all as they try to barge in to over troop you.

Same I was like. OMG i get to think…. In a strategy Rpg. HELL YES!!!!! Now I wished the tellius games weren’t so god damn expensive. like the turn wheel makes me go meh… but that chapter 4 in FE7 made me go like for 5 seconds: IF SHIT WHAT DO I DO NOW?

Never played Ike’s games and looking up it was to expensive online. Speaking of which I really hate modern FE maps since they don’t blend well with the gameplay cough turn wheel cough. I remember playing FE 7 with Lyn after I played 3Houses, Fates , and Awakening and Liking the Dorkas choke map where you have to prevent enemies from swarming you to death. God I wish I could get caught off guard more in this. Turn wheel just make me go euh I’ll make a unit block a door and now I have lost the ability to face my mistakes.

Speaking of FE Fates. I think it’s the worst modern FE. It has Phoenix mode which makes you immune to consequences of bad play. I hate the rewind or turn wheel as much as Phoenix but they are limited at Leats and even then I use limited loosely. Corrin regardless of being kidnapped and sheltered shouldn’t be this mentality inept. You got your memory seals and the norh siblings knew of it and you don’t freak out. I especially hated that Norh are portrayed as the absolute evil. It make some people I be met irl think that Japan stoke its ego in a sjw development of the game. It doesn’t help that Norh has many soldiers like Zola who make them look worse. Faron is the progenitor of the Agarthan problem since his own kids are like Wtf at his change into evil before the story began. By precursor I mean that at the very in 3Houses it’s implied that argarthan wears the skin of who they are impersonating so nobody can suspect but Garon is literally a corpse puddle controlled like a puppet. It should smell like ass when he is around. We never even heard what happened to make him that other then Anankos being angry at not being worshiped anymore. It is so skewed in Norh being the bad guy that it never acknowledged Hoshido evil deed.

True but they still hid their existence and that if their enemies. If the rest of foldable discovered it and the church being stuck between all 3 main powers well they would die. People wouldn’t want to trust them or any non human ever. They would have discovered that they were lied for about 1200 years. Each human can live a hundred years and Byleth is experiment thirteen. Even IF the three lords don’t agree they would be forced by peer pressure to do so. The lords are responsible for the human in thei land. Point is or was that would be the optimal golden route in loose quote. The settings doesn’t really allow for it. All in all it was only a thought experiment.

Was there a golden toute to begin with? What I’d personally consider a golden route in 3H would be the death of all Agarthan and Nabatean. Hell in CF flower Byleth heart shattered the crestone and stated beating. To me it screamed healthy baby but Rhea wanted mommy back. So yeah 3H golden route imo is where human leads the world without the church (Nabatean) and the creepy vampire scientist (Agarthan or TWSITD)

I would empty my wallet twice just for this. This is what they needed, an Avatar that isn’t a generic Atlus MC. Nothing against SMT or Personsa but FE is it’s own thing and the more they rip off things while losing their identity the worse it gets. As for that avatar idea until Nintendo learns to fo in between without going one extreme of an idea it gonna take a while

I wanted people to join this so we could get extra dlc for this game. A student avatar since the dlc was so lacking. That was the point and giving some love in 2022

I made a petition. Here the link for those who want to join. https://chng.it/J6JJjmbP Please if any of guys agree to my opinion than please sign and if you don’t but know someone that does please send them this link

What I prefer is Fates shield gauge but better balanced to modern title so player don’t have to rely on turn wheel for ambush spawn. Not saying to get rid of the turn wheel for new players but having this option would make the old player who complained about it have other means to deal with these. That way map design can be solved in multiple ways.

Really can this thread go back to unpopular opinion instead of fighting amongst ourselves? I did have an echo chamber opinion before hell even eclipse told me about my post of three houses and I dropped and thank the lord I did drop it. It has done wonders to my argument and social skills.Speaking of unpopular opinion I would like for Fates guardian system where pairing unit can shield others to get revamped so it does tie with support. A lot of broken abusive mechanics can becomes good if tweaked properly.

I agree fates has its problems but I refuse to not acknowledge it’s good ideas and truths. This is why I criticize fates this harshly because I care about it. And yeah Xander outright tell you about his arc for f sake. I’m an autistic person and I saw and understood it first time while half asleep. You do have good arguments so not ottservia ain’t wrong. She or he criticized me for my post and told why he or she felt that way about three houses. Can anybody just acknowledge ottservia points? I mean there straight up irritate from being told their in the wrong that it turned to this. Can we have a devil advocate here please?

True blunt isn’t an issue if the evidence point the player towards it. Zelda does it and it can work. Although beating over the head with it is the issue. It like navi “ yes I know what my next objective is you dumb dumb I just wanna sidequest. So treating your player like a moron is the problem. Which begs if that features is for Five year olds and if it is they won’t understand your story even if you beat them with it repeatedly so yeah….