Defeatist Elitist

FE4 Good: Interesting mechanics, generations is sweet, etc Bad: Frankly, it just has a kind of air about it FE5 Good: Again, interesting mechanics, etc Bad: A bit unrefined maybe? I dunno, similar to my beef with FE4. FE6 Good: Simple and fun enough Bad: Slightly too simplistic FE7 Good: Simple and fun Bad: Slightly too simplistic FE8 Good: Adds more interesting bits like Branched Promotions, etc. Bad: Easy to an obscene degree. FE9 Good: Nice additions with feeling too backwards Bad: Nothing in particular, easy, and it just isn't quite as good as some others, like: FE10 Good: Length, characters, difficulty, interestingness, mechanical additions, on and on. It doesn't have crazy shit like Fatigue System and movement growth, but it's pretty cool regardless. Bad: Uh, I guess it is a bit brutally unkind to some characters. FE11 Good: Solid advancement over the previous handhelds, Class Swap is sweet as shit, nice additions to FE1, difficulty choice is GREAT etc Bad: Didn't offer much beyond the gameplay, although I don't really mind that much

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So, Brom versus Calill. Brom is fat and has a family and farms and is happy. Calill is thin and teaches magic and shit like that. Brom wins, because everyone knows fat people are better. The end. Well, I guess there are other factors. Brom joins in Chapter 11. Calill joins in Chapter 20. All I have to do is prove that Brom is a benefit before Calill joins, and equal to her, or better (or marginally worse) after she joins. So let's start this baby up. When Brom joins he has the following statistics (level 8): Iron Lance: 17.0 atk, 7 AS, 102 hit, 4.3 crit, 18.0 avo, 28 hp, 13 def, 2 res Steel Lance: 20.0 atk, 4.0 AS, 92.0 hit, 4.3 crit - - 12.0 avo, 28.0 hp, 13.0 def, 2.0 res, 4.0 critavo Not amazing, but not particularly disgusting either. Importantly, he comes in on a chapter right after you got a load of BEXP, and assuming you are distributing BEXP fairly evenly between units you use, he should be getting at least some of that. He also uses it pretty well. He may well gain a level or two right there. But let's ignore that for now. Let's pretend he's still Level 8. The two fighters here (not that important, but meh), are getting ORKO'd by him, but everyone is going to kill these guys, unless they somehow manage to have under 15 MT, or under 4 AS. They hit him for 1 damage. Again, not the most impressive of enemies. Then there are the Zihark Myrmidon's who he could easily kill without taking any damage, but you may want to conserve those for the BEXP. Now to get onto more interesting enemies. The Lance Knights are all hitting him for ~6-7 damage, at 79% True Hit. The strongest ones 4RKO him. Considering the fact that a level 14 Boyd is as well, I think that's alright. So is a level 14 Oscar. You get the picture. He responds with ~5-6 damage at 96% True Hit, or ~8-9 damage with 89% True Hit. Not incredibly impressive, but meh. He does better against the Steel Sword Knights, taking ~4 damage and dealing ~6 damage with an IronLance. The Bow Knight deals a laughable 3 damage to him. The enemy Armor Knights are fairly different. Brom does not particularly want to meet them, although he does double them. The loldiers can be pretty easily dispatched by him. The level 9 Myrmidon's as well deal like 2 damage to him, and he can take them easily enough. He can also take the rest of the easy shit like Thieves and Priests. So really, Brom only ever has any trouble with the tougher dudes anyway. Next level there are a bunch of dudes that double Brom for 3-5 per hit, and the boss who doubles for 9 per hit. Now, this is assuming Brom didn't level up once. Even 2 levels is reducing that damage. He's responding with 6-9 damage on most of them, including the boss. On this chapter Brom is not shining quite so much, but almost everybody is having SOME trouble with the massive AS of the Ravens. Fun fact: most of your awesome characters like Boyd and Oscar and Kieran probably aren't getting the 13 AS required to avoid being doubled by many of the Ravens until level 17-20. Boyd in particular, at level 19 (Yeah, 19, if he managed that :D ), can be hit by non boss Ravens for 9 damage per hit. Doubled. And he's not one rounding them in response either. And just to restate that. Durability wise, BASE level Brom is comparable to many of your best characters at up to level 19. And his offense isn't lagging that far behind. He lags level 20 Boyd by 8 Mt, which is pretty bad, but level 20 Ike is only winning by 2, Oscar at level 20 leads by 3. It's pretty insane that base level Brom is doing almost as well as them on this chapter (probably better durability wise). I'm not trying to say Brom is better than them by any means, but that is pretty damn impressive that he's comparable to them when he's at base level and they're at levels far beyond what they should be at. Anyway, NEXT CHAPTER time. Now, as much as I would love to keep doing this "Hey let's see what Base Level Brom does at this level!" thing, I'm going to have to go ahead a bit and say he probably gained some Experience. To be simple, I'll say he gained 3 levels through combined Combat and Bonus EXP (not unreasonable at all). Level 11 Brom: Iron Lance: 18.4 atk, 7.8 AS, 105.6 hit, 5.0 crit, 20.2 avo, 30.2 hp, 14.7 def, 2.8 res Steel Lance: 21.4 atk, 6.2 AS, 95.6 hit, 5.0 crit, 17.0 avo, 30.2 hp, 14.7 def, 2.8 res First let's start with the Soldiers/Halberdiers. They pose no threat to Brom. They're all dealing 0-5 damage. The Halberdiers can double him though, for 4+4. He deals 7-11 damage with his Iron Lance, although he is dealing 9 to most of them. Steel can boost that damage by three in exchange for losing a bit of AS. The archers range from dealing 0 (actually -2 :P )-3 damage, none of them can double him, no matter what. He deals 9-11 with Iron Lance, and can easily switch to Steel to gain the extra damage, as the AS loss still will not really hurt. The Myrmidons range from dealing almost no damage (or no damage) and doubling, or dealing like 4 damage and not doubling. The most "dangerous" one is the Killing Edge Myrm, who doubles for 3 damage with an existent crit rate. Brom deals 13 damage to each of them with an Iron Lance, but he may as well use Steel because it doesn't change anyone's doubling status on these guys, which means he deals 16 damage per smack. Other than that there's a Hammer Fighter that will hurt if he hits, but has no AS to speak of and likely will be whiped out by any of your units. It doesn't even one hit Brom either. The Steel Axe Fighter deals like 9 damage and can't double. Then there's the mages, which basically get Brom pretty good, but in return get gotten even better. Yeah, and Ravens too. These ones double him for 4 damage. Anyway, we save the people here, yadda yadda, ohmygodwhatthefuckisthatthingAstridiscarrying? Is that a KNIGHT WARD? Yes it is!! Alright. So. Knight Ward discussion time. Everyone who CAN get Knight Ward is going to be getting Knight Ward on BEXP level ups, it just makes sense. However, who gets to wear it into battle? Let's look at the contenders for it (the ones that are more likely to be played and are around right now anyway). They are Oscar, Kieran, Astrid, and Nephenee. Now, the thing you'll notice about these people is that most of them have pretty decent Speed. In fact, good speed. For the most part, they'll be doubling almost everything, except for the things that no one is doubling. I'm going to take a risk now and say that using the Knight Ward on units with already good Speed is not as useful as using it on another unit. Now, before you say that Brom doesn't "deserve" anything more than any other unit, let me say, that is true. However the fact is that it is MORE EFFECTIVE on Brom than most of the other units. Astrid however is at a low enough level that the extra Speed growth will be helping her get into doubling sooner, and the Defensive boosts are pretty neat to. So I'll say that in battle Astrid is getting the Ward half the time, Brom the other half. Either way, it's not hard to tweak things a bit so the chapter ends right before Brom levels up. I don't really want to go Chapter by Chapter until Calill joins, so I'll just stop here with an assumption that Brom improves from here. I will however back that up. His MT will only increase from here out, at a fair rate. More importantly however, his Strength will allow him to wield heavier weapons without AS loss. His Speed will also be boosted fairly significantly by the availability of the Knight Ward (.3 per Knight Ward level is nothing to sneeze at, especially since he'll be getting it for the majority of his level ups). As soon as he hits a respectable speed his offense essentially doubles. His Defense continues to keep him happy. And before I forget, Brom's supports. Brom has Boyd, Nephenee and Zihark. Boyd may well want Brom if Brom is in play, partly because Brom gives the same bonuses as Mist and Ulki, while being earlier than Ulki and wanting him in return, unlike Mist. Mist has her hands full with people like Titania and Mordecai and even Jill. Zihark also wants Brom, if Brom is being played, since his other Supports are Ilyana and Muarim. Brom is much faster than Muarim (since he's earlier), and also gives better bonuses than Ilyana (trades 2.5 Accuracy per level for Brom's .5 Mt, and Zihark wants Mt), and arguably better bonuses than Muarim (Avoid for Mt). If Nephenee is in play, she has no reason not to take him, as his only competition is Devdanved and Calill. Not only does he come way before them, his bonuses are better than Devdanved's (unless somehow you thought that Nephenee needed Accuracy more then Def), and trade Avoid for Defense in the Calill support. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, Brom will most likely get a combination of them. The best is probably A Boyd, B Zihark, which results in +4 Mt, +2 Defense, +7 Accuracy, and +10 Avoid. This can be accomplished by Chapter 22. If you jumped for Zihark A, you could get it by Chapter 20. But finally, the moment of truth, when Calill joins! CHAPTER 20! I feel it's safe to assume that Brom gained about 1.5 levels per chapter. There are 12 Chapters (well, maps) between the one he starts in (11), and Chapter 20. That's 18 Levels. We'll assume about 75% (Half combat, all BEXP) levelups are with Knight Ward. That means that he ends up at 20/4. So, without further ado, let's see Brom: Steel Lance: 32.7 atk, 16.8 AS, 119.0 hit, 9.0 crit, 50.6 avo, 42.2 hp, 23.8 def, 10.8 res He doubles everyone on this map except for Shihiram and a couple of Sword Knights. The most damage any non magic, non Shihiram unit can do to him on a hit is 5 damage, and that's a Steel Axe Fighter. Even magic users aren't doing much more than 7 damage. Half these enemies are facing nasty miss chances as well. He can also switch to a Sword if he really wants to take advantage of WT, although that really seems unnecessary. But let's take Shiharam, the strongest unit on the map, who also has WTA. He deals 11 damage per hit on Brom with 68% True Hit. He has to hit 4 times to kill Brom. Brom deals 10 damage per hit with 92% True Hit. He has to hit 5 times to kill Shiharam. If you run the numbers, Shiharam is much more likely to lost out on this thing. Take into account the fact that Brom can switch to Killer or something, and it's not even funny. But anyway, anyone can toe to toe a boss, it really doesn't mean too much. But the fact that no enemy is even a real threat to Brom, and the fact that he deals significant damage to the others makes him pretty awesome here. Now let's see what Calill does here. Elthunder: 26.0 atk, 18.0 AS, 127.0 hit, 18.8 crit, 52.0 avo, 32.0 hp, 8.0 def, 17.0 res Offensively she's doing pretty well, although not enough to give her that much of an edge on Brom. The people with the biggest Def-Res gap on this map are the Wyverns, who typically have a gap of 10, although one had 11. This means that in the end she only leads Brom by about 4-5 Mt. At most. Wait, I lied, there are a pair of Armor Knights with a gap of 13, so she wins those two by 7. Defensively however, she is slaughtered. She wins Avo by a laughable 2, and lolRes by 7. Brom has 10 HP, and 15 Defense over her. She is 2HKO'd by all except for one of the Wyverns. She is 3HKOd by almost everyone else except for the Magic users. And before you start on 1-2 Range, not only does Brom have access to that to (not that it matters), but that is only really likely to be useful on Player's phase, and even then, not on every enemy. Either she has no enemy phase, or she faces almost certain doom on it. BUT WAIT SHE CAN USE HER AMAZING KNIVES TO KILL EVERYTHING, SO DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCK AND YOU AUTO WIN THE DEBATE. I can't believe I forgot her awesome Knife skillz. I was going to write some more, but really, I don't want this to be too long. I'll finish up by saying that it looks like Brom not only wins before Calill joins (what with taking care of himself and contributing fair damage), but he also wins after she joins, due to comparable damage output, but not dying from everything. Of course, I highly suspect you are not going to be looking at my numbers to try to win. :P

Chill guys, she didn't actually SAY she was referring to the love of tiers.

You are a genius and we are all retarded. I can't believe none of us thought of this before you. You truly deserve to be recognized as one of the finest contributors to Serenes Forest.

Fucking "Jane's Fighter's Anthology". That shit requires you spend like 5-10 minutes learning how to goddamn move. Every single button has a function, and several have 2-3 that can be toggled by holding Shift or Control or Alt and shit.

My invisible friend is going to rape you in your sleep tonight unless you pay me $1000000000000000000000000.

Yeah. Pretty much applies to everything. And really anime is barely even a genre, its more of a medium.

1000 Gold on the last option.

Sankaku headlines.

Of course. But I would never accuse you of stalking me. <3

My opener is coming soon...

Are you stalking me?

Alright, here I'm going to post things (and encourage you to post things) that people can read or watch to begin to educate themselves on important subjects. While reading or watching these things alone does not necessarily make one an excellent thinker, it certainly helps to educate. I'd like anyone else who has educational material to post it here. Also, I'd like to request a Pin, if that's alright. If you post something, I'll try to edit it into the first post. So without further ado: Wikipedia Did I really need to link this? When you have a question about something, Wikipedia is an excellent place to look. If its a serious issue that you want very accurate information on though, you may want to try several sources as well, including those cited on the Wikipedia page. The Khan Academy Youtube channel contains a ton of information about a bunch of subjects. It offers close to a first year university level of education in a number of subjects. The Khan Academy Website is basically like the above but better. Potholer54's Youtube channel, another great resource. It mainly covers Climate Change (and the various myths surrounding it), as well as the Scientific History of people, going so far as containing two versions, one with almost all religious references purged. Anyone, I repeat, anyone trying to question scientific theories on subjects such as evolution, etc, would do very well to watch these videos. C0nc0rdance's Youtube Channel, a similar resource to the previous two. The intention of this channel is to cover and show what is junk science and what is real science. DonExodus's channel, yet another resource for explaining various scientific concepts. The Economist Wall Street Journal I'm just doing this quickly right now, and will probably add more soon. You will notice that many of these are Scientifically oriented. This is primarily because this seems to be one of the largest deficiencies in knowledge around here. This is also because Science is a very objective field, with little room for groundless opinion. That is to say, these can be purely educational, with very few opportunities for subjective bias. Things such as political ideology, morality, etc, are all much more subjective things, and while fairly important and interesting, are more difficult to easily "teach" on an objective level. Again though, I welcome all input, although don't just throw up everything.

No. Smash fanatic is major uncool man. :D Interceptor is the man I'm rooting for.

Dear god, the FE10 tier list is amaaaaaaazing. Possibly my favorite FE topic here, just for lurking.

Exactly. I know you shouldn't. I very much support people debating FE.

Who is Joan van Ark?

So by this you mean there are no good arguments for the existence of God? As for the Banana argument, yeah, that one is pretty hilarious. My favorite response is "Then why the fuck did he put it all the way up the tree?" followed closely by "You know Bananas don't naturally grow like that, right?"

I'm going to name my first son Lachesis, and my first Daughter Boromir.

I'm so hungry I could fuck you in the ass!

I'll be honest, I tend to watch anything I find funny or awesome for any reason, and then anything that intellectually interests me, again for almost any reason.

How can you be so sure?

Also, why the fuck would somebody say "He died" and mean "He died and came back" in this type of situation? It would be like if Tolkien said "Boromir died" and you went "So you mean he came back to life?"