Shiki Ryougi

So, you defended pluto not because you thought he was town, but because he seemed new? Why would you need to defend a person who you thought was scum? Are you trying to get town creds for helping out a "newbie" town player?

For fuck's sake, I AM A GUY. I already said it. Also, Moon, your case against me for "...shut up it's hammer?" is grasping at straws. I didn't want to get in trouble for talking after deadline, and there wasn't any discussion there that couldn't have been done today. You seem to really want to lynch me. I'm getting town reads from Robin, partially because that doctor strategy is exactly something he would do (considering he kinda spilled his actual user, but I won't restate it here). Bear, so far both of your reads have been proven town by flip. Who do you think is scum, right now?

...hammer shut up?

Also, I'm a guy. What's with this "themselves" and stuff.

I feel like you are trying to back up pluto for some reason. Yes, he admitted to active lurking, but admitting to doing something scummy does not erase your actions. It's actually probably better to lynch a scummy player and see who defended them. We should decide over the next few hours, guys, because deadline is going to be missed by a lot of people. And end-phase wagons are

Oh, sorry. My tone keeps getting mistaken, in any case. I voted Robin because he was in the center of attention, and I guess I wanted to see his reaction from my vote? I didn't think to far into it, because it was RVS. It was like the second page.

Navo, can you explain why you think I'm scummy? I don't think you've even mentioned me up to this point.

If it makes you feel better, I'll vote the best read I have ##Vote: Pluto

Well, that was a case against me, so... I've given thoughts on pluto, caliban, and balbo.

My tone was more "voting you cause ur st00pid lol" rather than "I'm going to vote you because you were acting stupid/scummy here, here, and here", but I understand how it could have come across that way. Pluto still seems to be echoing. How can you say I'm not adding much when you haven't brought anything new to the table? This isn't a tier list, personal experiences DO mean something. Not in the metagame sense, but can you tell intown arguing apart from bussing? That argument definitely did not seem "bored" as you put it.

I can't tell if this is directed at me, but I don't really understand my wagon. I've made two posts, and I haven't been around. My vote was also made during RVS, so... Plutonium, can you explain how I'm being vague? I don't like Balboa's last post. He assumes what the votes on FLC were about without asking, then goes into a theory about scum-influence on FLC. Well, while that wagon may have been influenced, nobody is going to quicklynch that soon into phase. Earlygame wagons are just stupid. I really don't like plutonium's last post, and his vote on me. I've been doing the same thing as him, activity wise (except I've actually not been home) and he's voting me? He's also just echoing everybody else saying I'm being vague. I think his reads are off too, especially about FLC/Robins. If anything, I'd think they'd be on different teams. Caliban seems townie to me, he's just being all-around useful. To respond to another one of his posts (he seems to mention my not being here a lot), I have not been here. I have not had time to make more than what I did post.

Sorry for leaving after placing an RVS vote, guys. I do stuff irl. ##Unvote Okarin, other than your town read on Caliban, do you have any reads? Your prodvote doesn't mean much.

##Vote: Robin's Egg for being stupid.

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Oh right lol. I CAN'T KEEP TRACK OF EVERYTHING JESUS

Reasons Eternity looks pretty bad: -too much theorymaf, not enough content -bad/unhelpful votes -Newternity: decent listpost, gets to possible lynch targets and suddenly runs out of things to say, then votes VT for fluff, come on, surely you can do better than that ##Unvote ##Vote: Eternity

Also why are we assuming that Keysmash's role can't be mafia-aligned? Maybe it is and there's a rule preventing mafia from passing the crane to mafia or something of the sort that he left out. That sounds dumb though which I guess means towncred for Keysmash by way of common sense. Well, townreads are good to have.

I didn't think there was enough time for a wagon to start out of nowhere with the hammer rule. Even if it's not my absolute favourite thing, I'd rather commit to something plausible. And of course you don't think I'm a good crane target. That's why I say I am. I see myself becoming a lynch target, and because I'm town, it's to the town's benefit that the option of lynching me be removed, if only for one phase. 1. I guess I missed that? Oh well. 2. What about that post? Perseus wants me to set off a lynch bomb because I disagree with him or something. I don't see what's so important about that right now. What am I even supposed to say about this? It's not like there's anything I can do about it if you decide you want me to do it. If it's any help, I'd rather it be VT or Eternity. 3. The second link doesn't work properly so I don't understand your point here. Is my "wagoning attitude" bad? Phases are 72 hours long. We don't exactly have time to mull over like four or five lynch targets. Barring myself, there's nowhere I'd rather an unlynchable power be than an unpopular townread. Such an ability is of no use on someone who's not even in danger of being lynched. And yes, my read on Sundown has changed from null to town. Like I said, I don't believe we have time to start wagons midway through phases at this point in the game. The hammer threshold is too high. So I went with the lesser of two evils. But, since an Eternity wagon seems to have started anyway... What use do Tails or Perseus have for the crane? Scumread -> townread: 180 Null read -> townread: not 180 Hey look guys I wonder why I suggested the crane be passed to me. I don't like repeating myself but seriously. Reason for this? Do you want to blow up the lynchbomb? Just fucking lynch the scum directly. Yes I know you all think Sundown is scum too, but I don't, and that's where we disagree here. Just so we're all on the same page. Sorry for the quotewall and I'll have a closer look at Eternity before I decide whether or not I'd like to jump on what's basically a powerwagon. Gotta double check my read I guess?

I guess I have to choose one of these wagons? I'm still not convinced about scum!Sundown because all of these interpretations assume the mafia was playing optimally during the end of Day 1 with that clusterfuck going on, which is a dangerous thing to assume. The Sundown wagon really bothers me too. That can't be all town. Mark my words, one of those people is scum. Maybe it's Sundown, who cares, one of them is. VT has been giving me the same gut feeling Yoshimi did, so it's obvious which wagon I'd choose. I just wish I had more townreads. We can't lynch Keysmash who thinks it's okay to not respond to votes on him, but whatever. Pass the crane to me or Sundown. ##Unvote ##Vote: VoltTackle Guys we should go back to Eternity after this.

Hey Tails, just a thought, but maybe claim if you want, it's not like the mafia's going to shoot you after all that about wanting to die that will no doubt continue until you do. May as well let us know what's up. Or not. Sundown is town, because we have plenty of people here who flip the fuck out whenever somebody so much as looks at them funny and none of his content really bothered me much except for the Tails vote, which could be excused as a product of his emotional playstyle. Also I like the new one. Maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see here, but this vote looks opportunistic. What happened to VT? You know, the only guy you gave half a shit about during Day 1. Here you do a 180 and go after a player whose wagon you explicitly stated you didn't like (correct me if timeline issues plz) because they had less content than you thought they did or something. What's got you so serious about this vote? ##Vote: Keysmash

Exactly how imperative is it that you die?

Uh no. We have confirmed scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: Yoshimi

This is terrible.

what the fuck is even going on anymore

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