DragonKnight900 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 First Playthrough: Danved Lyre Marcia Vika Oscar ;) Mordecai Volug Heather :D Titania Brom Well 4 laguz will make things fun and such. At least there is a decent spread of units going on. Volug can solo part 1 once available, Brom & Heather can take care of part 2 and Titania and Oscar make 3 mucho laughs. Besides Volug & Oscar I don't think I have ever brought any of these 8 to tower before hand . . . which I guess is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fei Mao Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 1st playthrough brought... 1. Shinon 2. Gatrie 3. Bastian 4. Oliver 5. Oscar 6. Renning 7. Titania 8. Lion King 9. Tibarn 10. Forgot who I brought Are you saying you brought Bastian and Oliver of your own accord? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Last playthrough was: (aside from the required) Soren Naesala Mist Elincia Boyd Volug Oscar (who turned out really freaking ) Janaff ^_^ Edward Pelleas I did use Brom this playthrough but he didnt make it to endgame. Edited December 1, 2009 by Lil Cthulhu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanger Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 1st playthrough I brought... 1.Shinon 2.Edward 3.Mia 4.Elincia 5.Naesala 6.Caineghis 7.Oscar 8.Tibarn 9.Nailah 10.Giffca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 To be honest, I don't know why people are talking about their free playthroughs in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Finished my first playthrough. 1st PT: 45: Lyre (GAAH) 15: Vika 59: Giffca 21: Brom: Urvan 39: Shinon: Double Bow 1: Edward: Vague Katti 55: Oliver: Matrona 32: Calill: Rexflame 38: Oscar: Wishblade 56: Basitan: Rexcalibur. Was too lazy to check high scores, but I suspect that there are some people in the top 5 who did not make it to 4F, because so many of the people brought to 4f had fairly low availability the rest of the game. Lyre was not actually too bad. I would certainly not have bothered using her if I didn't have to, but since I was using her I just used blossom and BEXP to level her up effectively (since Shinon, Oscar, Brom and Ike were the only GMs coming to 4f anyway, I didn't really need so much BEXP for the other characters, since Brom is the only one who really needed help anyways). I put paragon on Vika during 1F so she could also have it during 4-4. I was also able to get her almost to S strike during 1-F so she was able to make it to SS by the end of the game. I actually had her tanking hits from an armor on 4-F-1 w/ a healer behind her so that she could build up a bit of strike, didn't waste any turns though (once the armor was the last enemy left I killed it). I actually cheated in 4F. I forgot to get the fortify staff (finished 4-4 too early by accident, b4 heather got the chests open) and since I did a transfer game I didn't have the ashera staff. So I ended up switching Sanaki for Nasir to be sure that I could get the battle done w/out too much AOE from Ashera killing a character. Don't know ashera's pattern so I couldn't defend on the appropriate cover very effectively. (otherwise I woulda just thrown concoctions and elixers on everyone and waited for her single-target attacks). EDIT-After checking TC's post, I guess Gareth and Nasir are allowed since they aren't counted in the randomization. So I didn't cheat after all! Bastian and Oliver were probably my most useless characters. Since Calill was already along, I didn't really need another staff user, and they both had terrible speed so that wasn't too helpful. I basically used them to heal my characters to allow micaiah (who was a tiny bit faster) and calill to attack mostly every turn. 49: Tanith: forge lance 57: Volke: Baselard 46: Janaff 34: Soren: rexcalibur 36: Rolf: Double bow 6: Aran: wishblade 50: Skirmir 23: Heather: Will a forge dagger be stronger than peshkatz? 58: Caineghis 35: Mist: Vague Katti? LOL? I think I could do OK with one mage and tanith. I am actually thinking Tanith will have the wishblade since she has more speed. Having Heather and Volke sucks IMO. I guess I will buy the peshkatz from the bargain shop and give both heather and sothe one... At least I have some excellent laguz to bring with me. I am thinking about having mist bless wyrmslayer and giving it to Ike. Edited December 1, 2009 by SeverIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 You can't forge daggers, only knives. And I highly doubt a forged knife is going to be better than a Peshkatz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 You can't forge daggers, only knives. And I highly doubt a forged knife is going to be better than a Peshkatz. Needs cards. Silver knife has 7 mt, so 12 mt after forging + cards on top can potentially give more mt than Peshkatz (13mt). Also, 60 hit means 85 hit. Peshkatz has 90 hit. Soldier card will have 13mt and 95 hit, so is technically better though only barely. 85 hit is enough for most things with Heather's decent skill and great luck, so an axe card or a twin swords card will make a better knife than Peshkatz. The question becomes, if you have a twin swords card, why use it on a 15 use knife rather than a hand axe or a silver sword critforge or something. The axe card could be reasonable. Assuming this type of thing allows resets for determining order of cards, you can easily make a better knife, but it'll likely only have 1 more mt than Peshkatz anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 You can't forge daggers, only knives. And I highly doubt a forged knife is going to be better than a Peshkatz. Needs cards. Silver knife has 7 mt, so 12 mt after forging + cards on top can potentially give more mt than Peshkatz (13mt). Also, 60 hit means 85 hit. Peshkatz has 90 hit. Soldier card will have 13mt and 95 hit, so is technically better though only barely. 85 hit is enough for most things with Heather's decent skill and great luck, so an axe card or a twin swords card will make a better knife than Peshkatz. The question becomes, if you have a twin swords card, why use it on a 15 use knife rather than a hand axe or a silver sword critforge or something. The axe card could be reasonable. Assuming this type of thing allows resets for determining order of cards, you can easily make a better knife, but it'll likely only have 1 more mt than Peshkatz anyway. Sorry about that. The question about forging knives was a carry-over from when I first posted the tier list, but thanks for the advice anyway u guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methan0n Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 First PT: Renning Nealuchi Gatrie Astrid Nailah Janaff Oscar Geoffrey Nolan Laura Well... it has some good units, I guess. Gatrie + Nailah + Nolan is pretty good. But Lolra and Astrid? Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmik11 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Looks painful! First Playthrough 1.Rhys 2.Haar 3.Tanith 4.Naesala 5.Fiona 6.Ulki 7.Bastian 8.Meg 9.Tibarn 10.Volug Second Playtrough 1.Giffca 2.Nolan 3.Lucia 4.Boyd 5.Zihark 6.Elincia 7.Makalov 8.Marcia 9.Nailah 10.Sigrun Third Playthrough 1.Heather 2.Astrid 3.Jill 4.Tormod 5.Shinon 6.Gatrie 7.Lethe 8.Titania 9.Mordecai 10.Laura Fourth Playtrough 1.Pelleas 2.Oscar 3.Janaff 4.Edward 5.Kieran 6.Oliver 7.Muarim 8.Mia 9.Soren 10.Calill Fifth Playtrough 1.Ilyana 2.Caineghis 3.Geoffrey 4.Brom 5.Ranulf 6.Volke 7.Kyza 8.Mist 9.Rolf 10.Lyre Sixth Playtrough 1.Vika 2.Nealuchi 3.Skrimir 4.Stefan 5.Danved 6.Tauroneo 7.Nephenee 8.Renning 9.Leonardo 10.Aran Looks pretty much shitty.Wish me good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Oh shit. I 'm still on 1-1 on my first PT and Severlan already finished PT 1. I'm not stuck, it's because of no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Oh shit. I 'm still on 1-1 on my first PT and Severlan already finished PT 1. I'm not stuck, it's because of no time. I wouldn't worry about it. I'm on 1-E and I've gotten very good luck. Even though Micaiah has worse spd than usual and nolan is weird (capped str, but only got 14 spd by level 20) Aran has turned out godly. I think he's level 17 with 18 spd right now, no BEXP abuse. His str is under the average, but I am confident it will catch up. And his spd (usually his limiting stat) is so above par that he is actually doubling things. I think this is the first time I've seen him double non-armors prior to part 4. Looks painful!First Playthrough 1.Rhys 2.Haar 3.Tanith 4.Naesala 5.Fiona 6.Ulki 7.Bastian 8.Meg 9.Tibarn 10.Volug I think that besides having to use fiona and meg together that's a pretty good team. I wouldn't try it on hard on account of having to use those 2. But if you do, tell me - I'd be interested to hear how it goes. 1.Pelleas2.Oscar 3.Janaff 4.Edward 5.Kieran 6.Oliver 7.Muarim 8.Mia 9.Soren 10.Calill With 4 mages on the team I think this is your worst playthrough. Especially considering that Oscar, Edward, and Kieran are not that good either. If I was playing this I would send callil w/ pelleas on elincia's route and abuse that chapter to get them some EXP. 1.Giffca2.Nolan 3.Lucia 4.Boyd 5.Zihark 6.Elincia 7.Makalov 8.Marcia 9.Nailah 10.Sigrun I think this is your best PT. Edited December 9, 2009 by SeverIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I got Mordecai Oliver Marcia Naesala Nailah Ranulf Tormod Mist Laura Giffca EWWWWW. 3 laguz royals, 2 laguz, 3 healers, Tormod, and Marcia I highly doubt I'll go through with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 I got Mordecai Oliver Marcia Naesala Nailah Ranulf Tormod Mist Laura Giffca EWWWWW. 3 laguz royals, 2 laguz, 3 healers, Tormod, and Marcia I highly doubt I'll go through with this Wuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fei Mao Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) I got... 25 27 10 34 24 6 21 46 32 57 Mordecai Geoffrey Tauroneo Soren Lucia Aran Brom Calil Janaff and Volke. I'll do this on normal mode Edited December 10, 2009 by Patchouli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Actually I'm joining in on this too since it'll be a pretty good thing to see how everyone works in endgame. Of course this'll mean I'll actually USE the units in endgame and won't WTFEnarape the endgame. Playthrough 1. 45 Lyre 28 Kieran 38 Oscar 25 Mordecai 3 Nolan 39 Shinon 17 Elincia 11 Zihark 51 Tibarn 19 Nealuchi Playthrough 2. 10 Tauroneo 49 Tanith 57 Volke 24 Lucia 56 Bastian 37 Boyd 7 Meg 23 Heather 4 Laura 21 Brom Playthrough 3. 35 Mist 29 Astrid 50 Skrimir 12 Fiona 8 Volug 31 Danved 55 Oliver 16 Nailah 9 Jill 6 Aran Playthrough 4. 14 Muarim 44 Kyza 48 Sigrun 42 Mia 13 Tormod 5 Ilyana 41 Rhys 43 Ranulf 36 Rolf 60 Renning Playthrough 5. 1 Edward 18 Marcia 52 Naesala 54 Stefan 20 Haar 46 Janaff 2 Leonardo 30 Makalov 15 Vika 59 Giffca PLaythrough 6. 27 Geoffrey 26 Lethe 22 Nephenee 40 Gatrie 53 Pelleas 32 Calill 34 Soren 58 Caineghis 47 Ulki 33 Titania I'm setting my other PT on hold untill I have finished these ones. This is helpfull in seeing who I shouldn't try to get into my final chapters for my other PT. It seems I get Lyre and Nealuchi right off the bat. With Kieran, Tibarn, Nolan and Shinon I'm not getting too worried about this first PT. BB in like 5-6 hours with the result lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 BB in like 5-6 hours with the result lol. You can't be serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I meant 5-6 hours played time and only for the 1st PT. But It'll be like 10 hours I guess since I'll try to defeat the BK in 3-7 with only Lyre. Gotta find my camera too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Playthrough 4.14 Muarim 44 Kyza 48 Sigrun 42 Mia 13 Tormod 5 Ilyana 41 Rhys 43 Ranulf 36 Rolf 60 Renning This one looks pretty awful to me. Your last two are liek EZ playthroughs. It seems I get Lyre and Nealuchi right off the bat. I dunno what other people would suggest for this. However, with only 2 GMs there is a lot of potential BEXP for lyre to get while she's around. What I did when I used her was BEXP her to 99 EXP and gave her blossom. Between when she joins (3-4?) and 3-10 I had gotten two perfect level ups, and I'm pretty sure I capped her spd and skill by the time she hit 28. With a stone and olivi grass or a gem she was actually a great unit during part 4. Especially after hitting SS strike. It's a ridiculous waste of resources to use her, but given that you have to according to the rules of the PT, it's pretty easy to make her good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 I meant 5-6 hours played time and only for the 1st PT. But It'll be like 10 hours I guess since I'll try to defeat the BK in 3-7 with only Lyre. Gotta find my camera too. I know you weren't talking about every playthrough, but god. I must be missing something because I don't think it's supposed to go that fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) I meant 5-6 hours played time and only for the 1st PT. But It'll be like 10 hours I guess since I'll try to defeat the BK in 3-7 with only Lyre. Gotta find my camera too. I know you weren't talking about every playthrough, but god. I must be missing something because I don't think it's supposed to go that fast. I don't think I have any PTs under 10 hours. For one thing, I take way to long in the base setup each chapter (maybe 10 minutes each chapter from part 3 on) but I'm pretty sure the lowest count is under 4 hrs (maybe under 3). Edited December 11, 2009 by SeverIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Jar Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I want to try! Lets see... 1st Playthrough! Lucia Kieran Gatrie Zihark Pelleas Soren Tormod Nealuchi Fiona Leonardo 2nd! Makalov Volke Mist Ilyana Meg Nailah Naesala Stefan Marcia Volug 3rd! Geoffrey Vika Sigrun Aran Oscar Renning Ranulf Elincia Titania Rhys 4th! Mia Brom Ulki Maurim Boyd Rolf Edward Haar Lethe Jill 5th! Laura Janaff Caineghis Astrid Nephenee Shinon Calill Tibarn Tanith Tauroneo Sixth! Nolan Heather Bastian Lyre Kyza Mordecai Skrimir Giffca Danved Oliver Looks interesting :) I like the one with Haar and Jill :)_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I'm currently in 1-6. I've been using Micaiah a lot, mainly because I want her to get to level 20 fast so that I can then focus on training up Tormod while getting Nolan, Jill, Sothe, Aran and Zihark levels as well. Also, Leo has 12 Str at level 9 BD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fei Mao Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) Finished first playthrough (Normal mode) Top five 5.Michiah 4.Geoffery 3.Rolf 2.Aran 1.Ike Units I had to bring to tower: Lucia,Brom,Aran,Geoffery,Mordecai, Janaff,Tauroneo,Soren,Calil,and Volke. Lucia:Needed blossom and bexp gave her adept and cancel and Vague Katti she did well against all the enemy types in the tower. Brom:Did well at tanking physical units and countering (gave him Urvan) though his low speed caused him to get doubled he does not do well past the third floor. (he'll need a speedwing or two) Aran:Did excellent at the tower doubling and tanking but Aran needed a lot of bexp before he can manage himself. (gave him Wishblade) Geoffery:Did decent (gave him brave lance) basically he did as well as if Oscar was brought into the tower. His speed cap didn't allow him to double some enemies.He needed some bexp and to be fed some kills during 4-5. Mordecai:Did well at tanking physical units and countering but unfortunately he was doubled by almost everything in the tower,so he needs speedwings and speed level ups to be useable. Janaff: Basically the lesser version of Tibarn he did well and since he was one level away from being able to use the satori sign was a plus, tear allowed him to one hit kill every enemy without Nihil. Tauroneo:Had less def than Gatrie but was still good at tanking both magical and physical units due to his high res, and also due to his high magic for a general I gave him imbue which served him well. He needed some Bexp(Gave him a Tomahawk) Soren: Did well considering he doubled most of the enemies besides some of the spirits (gave him Rexcalibur) Calil: Did well also she had more dodge than Soren and basically the best candidate for Rexflame and same as Soren doubled most of the enemies besides some of the spirits. Volke: Did well doubled all the enemies in the tower and has lethality which was useful in some situation as in one hit ko some dragons and spirits. Second Run:Nealuchi Makalov Kieran Tormod Jill Naesala Titania Vika Marcia Rolf Edited December 15, 2009 by Patchouli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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