Florete Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You don't have to use just these people throughout the playthrough. Just when you reach the tower. Otherwise, you can use whomever along the way to help feed your 10 units. Yeah, I know. It's just that I usually have at least a few people in parts 1 and 3 that I like to prepare for Endgame and with this setup I'll mostly be cruising through without anyone to be sure I focus on aside from Heather. And when I do these, I'm doing them in HM. I might use transfers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You don't have to use just these people throughout the playthrough. Just when you reach the tower. Otherwise, you can use whomever along the way to help feed your 10 units. Yeah, I know. It's just that I usually have at least a few people in parts 1 and 3 that I like to prepare for Endgame and with this setup I'll mostly be cruising through without anyone to be sure I focus on aside from Heather. And when I do these, I'm doing them in HM. I might use transfers. HM for the challenge? Oh, if you can get at least 8 levels for Heather before 3-E (or more specifically, 17 str, so more levels if you get unlucky) you can crown her and get Bolting. You have Tormod and Pelleas (and Sanaki) in the Heather runthrough, so it may be worth doing. Especially since: 5 crowns, 5 units in your final group actually capable of using them. Too bad the best weapon you can give her before 3-7 is a forged steel knife that only has 9 mt + coins and 20 uses. Remember to buy the silver dagger in 3-6 and place it on Jill or Zihark and steal it in 3-7. She'll need that 12 mt weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You don't have to use just these people throughout the playthrough. Just when you reach the tower. Otherwise, you can use whomever along the way to help feed your 10 units. Yeah, I know. It's just that I usually have at least a few people in parts 1 and 3 that I like to prepare for Endgame and with this setup I'll mostly be cruising through without anyone to be sure I focus on aside from Heather. And when I do these, I'm doing them in HM. I might use transfers. HM for the challenge? Oh, if you can get at least 8 levels for Heather before 3-E (or more specifically, 17 str, so more levels if you get unlucky) you can crown her and get Bolting. You have Tormod and Pelleas (and Sanaki) in the Heather runthrough, so it may be worth doing. Especially since: 5 crowns, 5 units in your final group actually capable of using them. Too bad the best weapon you can give her before 3-7 is a forged steel knife that only has 9 mt + coins and 20 uses. Remember to buy the silver dagger in 3-6 and place it on Jill or Zihark and steal it in 3-7. She'll need that 12 mt weapon. That's a good idea. And yeah, I plan on buffing Heather to the max. She can get at least one Energy Drop since Astrid and Nealuchi are the only others who might want one. Also, I think we should all include the Herons. There are 3 of them and 6 runs, so you can go through each twice. Just use that random number generator for only 3 numbers. The way I did it is I treated Rafiel as 1, Leanne as 2, and Reyson as 3 and just got two different combinations, but you could go up to six and treat the Herons accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 That's a good idea. And yeah, I plan on buffing Heather to the max. She can get at least one Energy Drop since Astrid and Nealuchi are the only others who might want one. Also, I think we should all include the Herons. There are 3 of them and 6 runs, so you can go through each twice. Just use that random number generator for only 3 numbers. The way I did it is I treated Rafiel as 1, Leanne as 2, and Reyson as 3 and just got two different combinations, but you could go up to six and treat the Herons accordingly. As much as I'm sure you'd like her to actually proc str a few times along the way, if you are giving her a drop (good idea based on your team anyway) then she could just not even proc str ever and you'd still be able to crown her and get that Bolting, so that's cool. Just need some durable units with Provoke and Heather with Shade and a 2 range weapon and she shouldn't actually die trying. I pulled it off on HM using Mia + Ike + Heather(Shade) and Reyson to get them up there from 11+ squares away to all three be within 2 of the guy. Lots of enemies whiffed on Mia since I made her a more attractive target by only giving her a 1 range weapon. If you don't raise Mia (or don't support her with Ike since he goes to the tower and she doesn't), Gatrie is probably simpler since he doesn't need as much exp to pull this off. Actually, Heather x Ike may prove to be a worthy support, despite Heather's lack of offensive skill, simply because of the resulting durability and letting Ike keep an A support from ~3-10 on. It's a 02: it's not fast, but it isn't slow either. Plus she can have pass + adept + shade if you want. That's pretty cool (though she still won't kill much until silver dagger). Or even pass + resolve + shade (+ Ike). I don't think you'd need any more than Heather + Ike to go up there to get the Bolting without dying. And Heather has a killer luck growth. Then a Sigrun rescue (with help from Reyson) or something to get her out of there on the turn in which she steals Bolting. Sadly, though, I think Blizzard is virtually impossible to get in 3-E. Death count is too low and even if it wasn't the cats and tigers would likely get in range before anyone could set up a Heather steal. Also, when I try to use Heather offensively, I find her bio to be kind of annoying. She still has the same number of worsts and bests, I suppose, it is just she's always switching between the two like every other turn it feels like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CassieCinders Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Might as well post the full list, it's pretty balanced for me: 1. Boyd, Naesala, Marcia, Heather, Danved, Caineghis, Titania, Fiona, Edward, Nealuchi Seems like this will be good, Titania and Boyd+ 2 royals might kill a large amount of trouble. Fiona and Danved are slightly problematic for me though. Especially Fiona...ugh. 2. Geoffrey, Zihark, Nailah, Makalov, Soren, Kyza, Mordecai, Laura, Ilyana, Janaff Zihark, Soren, Ilyana, Nailah...awesome. This one will be the easiest, I think. 3. Lyre, Astrid, Tibarn, Mist, Skrimir, Lucia, Jill, Oscar, Ranulf, Volug I hate Volug and Lyre, but pretty good otherwise. 4. Lethe, Rolf, Renning, Shinon, Nephenee, Meg, Brom, Vika, Gatrie, Pelleas 3 armor knights...good that I love using Brom. Pelleas, Meg and Vika will be a pain. This one is competitor for my worst team 5. Bastian, Haar, Elincia, Volke, Stefan, Nolan, Tormod, Calill, Oliver, Kieran Pretty good, Oliver is the weak link. I've used Tormod before(BEXP abuse), the only thing that I think irritating is that I have 2 Fire Sages. 6. Tauroneo, Leonardo, Mia, Sigrun, Giffca, Ulki, Tanith, Rhys, Aran, Muarim Heck, not so good either. Leonardo, Tauroneo. On the bright side I have Mia and Ulki, and Giffca of course. It seems like I'll have balanced teams... Imagine Meg, Tauroneo, Leonardo, Vika, Tormod, Lyre, Pelleas, Oliver, Lucia and Lethe. That would be pretty hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Oh god, Meg and Lyre. Also, Oliver. Two Knife users on the same team, that means all knife users are present since Sothe is forced. I got Janaff, Gatrie, and Marcia. Ya I got the three knives in one for one of my PTs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I'll redo with the new RN generator I suppose,since I don`t remember my other teams anyway... 1 Nealuchi Volug Brom Marcia Renning Stefan Lyre Leonardo Oliver Rolf Oh joy,funfunfun....atleast I have Volug. 2 Naesala Fiona Sigrun Heather Skrimir Giffca Tauroneo Rhys Haar Mist I have a good mix of good and bad here,2 royals,a demi royal,and haar,as well as Rhys/Fiona/Sigrun 3 Oscar Mordecai Pelleas Tormod Boyd Zihark Bastian Ranulf Geoffrey Edward Not too bad 4 Nephenee Vika Lethe Jill Meg Ilyana Nailah Danved Calill Gatrie lolwut.A good mix of good and bad again 5 Astrid Elincia Kyza Shinon Tanith Titania Laura Mia Nolan Janaff I think this will be my favorite runthrough,and not just because of Mia 6 Kieran Caineghis Soren Makalov Ulki Muarim Lucia Aran Tibarn Volke And the bottom of the barrel,with Cain/Tibarn/Ulki,I can't go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Not that I have any intention of actually doing all this (nor do I have the time), but I figured I might as well to the random number thing since it is fun. 1st playthrough Titania Brom Renning Meg Geoffrey Tauroneo Ilyana Oscar Shinon Sigrun Number of 34+ spd cap units: 2. Number of them with a prayer of actually hitting 34 AS? 1. 2nd playthrough Haar Kyza Bastian Aran Lucia Zihark Volug Nealuchi Muarim Elincia Number of 34+ spd cap units: 5. Number of them with a prayer of actually hitting 34 AS? I suppose all 5. 3rd playthrough Laura Ranulf Fiona Heather Marcia Astrid Tanith Calill Lethe Makalov Number of 34+ spd cap units: 7 (8 if you count Calill). Units with a prayer of actually hitting 34 AS? Heather, Marcia. That's really it. Maybe Lethe and Ranulf, too. I suppose on NM Tanith or may hit it. On EM Fiona and Astrid can make it. Calill can hit 31 on HM easily enough, but it only matters if you count her. 4th playthrough Boyd Caineghis Skrimir Vika Mordecai Tormod Tibarn Soren Leonardo Edward Number of 34+ spd cap units: 8. Number of them with a prayer of actually hitting 34 AS? 3. On lower modes Boyd, Skrimir, Tormod, Leo, Ed have a better chance. Leo needs either his bow or much bexp. 5th playthrough Ulki Rolf Gatrie Jill Mist Kieran Nailah Lyre Giffca Volke Number of 34+ spd cap units: 8. Number of them with a prayer of actually hitting 34 AS? probably all of them, though Rolf and Mist may be a stretch. Lyre only needs level 30, but that's still a lot of levels. 6th playthrough Nephenee Oliver Janaff Nolan Rhys Mia Stefan Pelleas Naesala Danved Number of 34+ spd cap units: 6. Number of them with a prayer of actually hitting 34 AS? All of them. Easily. You know, Ether, I didn't notice this before, but did you notice Mia's number? She is: The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything Makes you think, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I was wondering when someone else would notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Ether, I suppose you're happy then? :D Currently on 1-E... and I'm somewhat grateful for this being on EM. 20/7 Leonardo can ORKO just fine with a steel bow, but his stats are pretty average otherwise and I'm sure the stronger enemies and scarcer experience on NM would make raising him hell... I mean, if you can't counterattack at 1 range, at least have the numbers to perform decently at 2 range. He can't even make use of it half the time because every other enemy seems to have 1-2 range! At least he has enough RES to attack mages. ...I miss Shinon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I was wondering when someone else would notice. Why didn't you say anything? Anyway, I think it is pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I was wondering when someone else would notice. Why didn't you say anything? Anyway, I think it is pretty funny. I was wondering if anyone else would pay enough attention to catch it.Blurting it out wouldn't accomplish that,now would it? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothache Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Let's give this a go, why not: First playthrough: Giffca Zihark Mordecai Haar Oscar Sigrun Fiona Nephenee Caineghis Geoffrey This is pretty solid in combat, but it lacks magic completely. Should be a fun challenge Second playthrough Makalov Nolan Jill Vika Mia Meg Ulki Gatrie Aran Nealuchi I can see this team struggling overall. Once again, I'm lacking magic, which adds to the fun Third playthrough Laura Danved Calill Marcia Nailah Naesala Lyre Mist Shinon Soren Well, here's where most of my magic went. Fourth playthrough Bastian Tormod Kyza Leonardo Astrid Muarim Skrimir Stefan Oliver Rhys And here's the rest of it Fifth playthrough Kieran Lucia Janaff Boyd Edward Elincia Volke Tanith Brom Rolf This seems the most balanced team. Sixth playthrough Titania Pelleas Lethe Heather Tibarn Ilyana Tauroneo Ranulf Renning Volug Lots of laguz in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I was wondering when someone else would notice. Why didn't you say anything? Anyway, I think it is pretty funny. I was wondering if anyone else would pay enough attention to catch it.Blurting it out wouldn't accomplish that,now would it? :P I suppose if you told everyone you wouldn't know if they noticed it on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I was wondering when someone else would notice. Why didn't you say anything? Anyway, I think it is pretty funny. I was wondering if anyone else would pay enough attention to catch it.Blurting it out wouldn't accomplish that,now would it? :P I suppose if you told everyone you wouldn't know if they noticed it on their own. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Cold Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 3 Nolan 28 Kieran 36 Rolf 24 Lucia 13 Tormod 33 Titania 45 Lyre 34 Soren 50 Skirmir 4 Laura pretty decent, Titania is ok, Nolan is pwnage, Skirmir isn't bad, rest is meh 52 Naesala 29 Astrid 18 Marcia 30 Makalov 11 Zihark 47 Ulki 15 Vika 43 Ranulf 22 Nephenee 55 Oliver Wind,Bow weak, 4 air units, but it seems fun 9 Jill 56 Bastian 42 Mia 58 Cain 19 Nealuchi 1 Edward 32 Callil 6 Aran 46 Janaff 57 Volke This is by far the most overpowered team, Jill, Mia, Cain, Volke (edward isn't bad) 37 Boyd 60 Renning 53 Pelleas 40 Gatrie 44 Kyza 7 Meg 20 Haar 54 Stefan 41 Rhys 21 Brom the worst team, Meg, Pelleas, Rhys, ... 12 Fiona 16 Nailah 17 Elincia 38 Oscar 5 Ilyana 31 Danved 8 Volug 35 Mist 2 Leonardo 26 Lethe Nailah, woohoo, Elincia, woohoo, Volug woohoo, the rest ... who cares >.> 2nd and third team seems to be the most fun team, by far (might do one after my mage playthrough and perhaps Laguz playthrouh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Fourth playthrough Bastian Tormod Kyza Leonardo Astrid Muarim Skrimir Stefan Oliver Rhys You're going to die. In real life. 12 Fiona 16 Nailah 17 Elincia 38 Oscar 5 Ilyana 31 Danved 8 Volug 35 Mist 2 Leonardo 26 Lethe Nailah, woohoo, Elincia, woohoo, Volug woohoo, the rest ... who cares >.> Hey, you have Ilyana there too. And I only count five teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Might as well post the rest of my teams. PT 2 Tanith Lethe Edward Geoffrey Tibarn Fiona Soren Astrid Giffca Naesala PT 3 Shinon Leonardo Zihark Pelleas Mordecai Nealuchi Muarim Kieran Janaff Caineghis PT 4 Elincia Volke Stefan Lyre Meg Renning Oscar Nolan Bastian Boyd PT 5 Ilyana Aran Volug Brom Jill Mia Haar Laura Sigrun Ulki PT 6 Nailah Calill Vika Kyza Tauroneo Ranulf Makalov Lucia Skrimir Mist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Leonardo Nealuchi Nephenee Kieran Aran Giffca Tibarn Volke Lethe Rolf Caineghis Tauroneo Janaff Ilyana Danved Boyd Elincia Naesala Rhys Mia (RhysxMia otp) Ranulf Mordecai Volug Sigrun (Why must you ruin an otherwise perfectly usable team, Sigrun?) Edward Nolan Mist Stefan Nailah Ulki Astrid (...) Lyre (*facepalm*) Brom Haar Gatrie Skrimir Tormod Renning Calill Kyza Tanith Muarim Geoffrey Oliver Jill Oscar Pelleas Soren Makalov Bastian Vika Laura Lucia Fiona (... really? 4 units that require lots of favoritism?) Shinon Titania Marcia (... 5) Zihark Meg (Make it 6) Heather (And someone unsalvageable) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I've done this. Manually. (READ: Hand-picked characters for each PT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ether Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Leonardo Nealuchi Nephenee Kieran Aran Giffca Tibarn Volke Lethe Rolf Caineghis Tauroneo Janaff Ilyana Danved Boyd Elincia Naesala Rhys Mia (RhysxMia otp) Ranulf Mordecai Volug Sigrun (Why must you ruin an otherwise perfectly usable team, Sigrun?) Edward Nolan Mist Stefan Nailah Ulki Astrid (...) Lyre (*facepalm*) Brom Haar Gatrie Skrimir Tormod Renning Calill Kyza Tanith Muarim Geoffrey Oliver Jill Oscar Pelleas Soren Makalov Bastian Vika Laura Lucia Fiona (... really? 4 units that require lots of favoritism?) Shinon Titania Marcia (... 5) Zihark Meg (Make it 6) Heather (And someone unsalvageable) NO!Fuck you!FUCK YOU! Anyway...some of those teams are pretty lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Vika Laura Lucia Fiona (... really? 4 units that require lots of favoritism?) Shinon Titania Marcia (... 5) Zihark Meg (Make it 6) Heather (And someone unsalvageable) I'm sorry, NO. First off, you don't even have any other CRKs, so paragon in 3-9 is a given. She'll double in 3-11 if you actually used her in part 2, well, 75% of the map anyway. And you can basically use her normally and she'll be fine in 4-E. She won't be much good in 4-P unless you let her have a horseslayer (nobody else on your list is appropriate for that task anyway), but even without it she'll still end up fine for 4-E. Probably double in 4-3, too, and wyrmslayer makes her pretty good at something most of the team won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Leonardo Nealuchi Nephenee Kieran Aran Giffca Tibarn Volke Lethe Rolf Caineghis Tauroneo Janaff Ilyana Danved Boyd Elincia Naesala Rhys Mia (RhysxMia otp) Ranulf Mordecai Volug Sigrun (Why must you ruin an otherwise perfectly usable team, Sigrun?) Edward Nolan Mist Stefan Nailah Ulki Astrid (...) Lyre (*facepalm*) Brom Haar Gatrie Skrimir Tormod Renning Calill Kyza Tanith Muarim Geoffrey Oliver Jill Oscar Pelleas Soren Makalov Bastian Vika Laura Lucia Fiona (... really? 4 units that require lots of favoritism?) Shinon Titania Marcia (... 5) Zihark Meg (Make it 6) Heather (And someone unsalvageable) OBJECTION! RhysxMia is one of the worst crack pairings ever. Only the likes of Astrid/Makalov are worse. ...That aside, some of those teams are pretty lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlejack Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Gatrie Brom Meg Mist Aran Tormod Zihark Giffca I got Aran and Gatrie twice. This is the best randomly made Trojan Horse ever; a slow moving wall (Consisting of Gatrie, Aran, Brom, and lolMeg), Mist plays horsey healbot, Tormod is the magicman, Zihark is the swordy, and Giffca is the rape machine. Second playthrough: Oliver Volug Volke Giffca Kieran Ranulf Zihark Tibarn Okay, so the only double is Volke... this team is actually pretty solid. I mean, ACTUALLY good. So I get Volug and Zihark, who (Along with Micaiah and Sothe) are raping Part 1. Then in Part 2... well, I don't have many choices until Kieran comes around, then... well, I don't have much of a choice either. Part 3, I get Ranulf and Ike (Which is pretty cool I guess.) and in Part 4, the team comes together; Oliver is... the backup healer or something, Volke is the Sothe-2, Tibarn, along with Giffca and Volug, are the rape machines. Oh, Ranulf and Zihark are doubling everything too. And Kieran is still the Dark Horse. Or, in this case, the relatively shoddy red horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Gatrie Brom Meg Mist Aran Tormod Zihark Giffca I got Aran and Gatrie twice. This is the best randomly made Trojan Horse ever; a slow moving wall (Consisting of Gatrie, Aran, Brom, and lolMeg), Mist plays horsey healbot, Tormod is the magicman, Zihark is the swordy, and Giffca is the rape machine. Second playthrough: Oliver Volug Volke Giffca Kieran Ranulf Zihark Tibarn Okay, so the only double is Volke... this team is actually pretty solid. I mean, ACTUALLY good. So I get Volug and Zihark, who (Along with Micaiah and Sothe) are raping Part 1. Then in Part 2... well, I don't have many choices until Kieran comes around, then... well, I don't have much of a choice either. Part 3, I get Ranulf and Ike (Which is pretty cool I guess.) and in Part 4, the team comes together; Oliver is... the backup healer or something, Volke is the Sothe-2, Tibarn, along with Giffca and Volug, are the rape machines. Oh, Ranulf and Zihark are doubling everything too. And Kieran is still the Dark Horse. Or, in this case, the relatively shoddy red horse. I think you're doing it wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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